southpaw777

Still dont like him.. Bullpen has looked extraordinary this month. Bats have come alive. Hopefully Farrell doesnt make as many bonehead moves so t our team can keep winning despite him:p

So is price, so is porcello...MVP type players get paid good money. Mookie will get paid, Xander will get paid...this is how it works. JH is a billionaire and already has showed he will go over the LT. So if hes not worried about his money why the hell are you? I think he knows what hes doing and can run finances better than you...When we signed him he could have got 5-6 guarenteed years somewhere else at less aav, but we wanted only 4 with a 5th vesting option so we paid a little more. Thats how Henry likes to do things it seems. Pay a little more for less guarenteed years...hes only 32 and is in phenominal shape. I think he will age well the next three years while salaries go sky high. His 22m may look good in three years.

Just bringing him back slowly Im sure. Id rather they do it this way so hes 100% ready for the playoffs

Both top pitchers for the Tribe are now out..yeah, their toast.

Listen, I dont like his managing style. Bottom line. Pretty simple. I dont need words put in my mouth and everyone thinking my OPINION is wrong or trying to convince me otherwise. I dont give two shits about other managers. i know they all make mistakes. My OPINION is that ive never seen one manager make so many head scratching moves as Farrell has. And Im certainly NOT alone. Yes, he makes good moves too. Its not like every move he makes sucks and its not like I act that way. My opinion remains the same. Overall I dont like the way he manages a team. Not sure why thats so hard to grasp without everyone trying to convince me my opinion is wrong...

yeah, sorry...I was a little mad. shouldnt have done that.

this isnt a comparison Slash...I dont like the way Farrell manages a game...although I do think Girardi is overall a better in game manager...every manager makes some bonehead moves, but Farrell takes it to a new level.Ive never complained this much about any manager

yeah, I get all that and Im not a happy camper IF that happens (retaining farrells managerial services). I dont like the guy.one.bit and i want to tear up his little notebook hes got his face in. IMO hes got very little feel for the game going on right in front of him. broadcaster are even questioning his moves and that never usually happens with the company guys... bottom line is I just dont like the way he manages a team. Tito was soooo much better IMHO. no , I dont want him back either..Just sayin.

No, not in OTHER words...in MY words, Im saying I dont like his in game managing and I dont want him here. I thought that was pretty clear, so how about we not put words in my mouth.

Farrell needs to realize that some guys can actually hit the same side pitcher. Benni has looked good vs LHP. Overall better than JBJ I think..the smart move would have been to PH Young for JBJ vs Layne making Girardi swith pitchers one batter earlier. lets face it, Aaron f***ing Hill strikes fear in exactly zero pitchers, LH or RH, which is why bLayne was left in to face Hill. Young would have forced Girardi to switch. then Benni is up so he would have to go to a lesser LHP since they already used their main LH guy Layne...I just dont understand why Farrell doesnt see this. Girardi schooled his ass last night...Farrell got lucky Young was barely HBP and Betences was off his game because those first two PH moves by Farrell were absolutely ass backwards! the guy is clueless how to manage a game.

collapse...lol, now THATS doom and gloom. they are in first place and had a couple rough starts...collapse? walk of win by Hanley last night opening the divison lead... DESPITE Farrell once again thinking he HAS to hit a RH vs a LHP and vice versa.... Girardi schooled Farrell last night to get his matchup with Young. unfortunately for NY Young was HBP. Benni has good numbers vs LHP. there was no need to PH for him., Maybe Young for JBJ that way Girardi either has to switch to is RHP vs Young allowing Benni to hit vs RHP or let him pitch to Young and Benni... Hill strikes fear in no pitcher, LH or RH. Young does vs LHP. so OBVIOUSLY you PH young for JBJ first to make Girardi switch pitcher and giving benni a RHP or having Girardi make yet another move for a lesser LHP for Benni... Farrell hasnt a clue. he got lucky Betences was off his game. believe me, Im ecstatic they won, but I still want Farrell GONE after the season...Overall, the guys a tool when it comes to managing a game....

and thats why I said If he can get some pitch recognition

I say we have moved on from him because Moncada should be here full time no later than 2018. I believe Hes who they see as their 3b of the future. he needs some work on D and at the plate before hes ready for MLB, so that gives us maybe a year to move Panda. Hanley is fine at 1b. vs LH and RH. his splits are great and theres no need to interrupt his game to accommodate the fat man. Im not a big fan of platoons when they are not necessary. and NO, Panda at 1b is NOT necessary. If panda can play winter ball to show hes healthy that would be a plus. we could trade him in the winter or in ST at the latest. He was a bad signing from the start and just NOT a good fit here in Boston. a lot like AGon. he NEEDS to be out of Boston ASAP. Theres no place for him on this Red Sox team.

Dalbec is really interesting to me. if that kid gets some pitch recognition he can be a 40-hr player at a corner. Hes an Arizona kid so pedeys probably all about it He has a legit shot to be in AA by the end of 2017 if everything goes right.

his GG D is well known and now hes an AllStar CFer. the bat is pretty known now. 280ish hitter with about a mid 800OPS and 20-25 hr power from the left side. that has a LOT of value if im a GM. to get an ACE type you would use him as a centerpiece, but hes got loads of value on both sides of the ball. once again, im not all for trading him unless for a young proven pitcher. also remember this. Boras is Xanders and JBJs agent. can we afford both of them if they both seek near or above 20M per for the next 7-8 years? those are some questions we need to ask because all these young kids are gonna want to get paid. they are probably gauging the chances of extending each one. Xander JBJ Rutledge Holt and Workman all start year one in arbitration. Betts Wright Vaz and Carson Smith after 2017. Id say four names could start to get pricey if performance is good. Smith is my fourth, although at a lesser level but still pricey for a bullpen arm. they are going to want to lock one or a couple of these guys long term if they can. Wright could make some $$ ala RA Dickey if he comes back and has continued success thru 2017...lots of other things go into it besides him being a great player we need

Benni is back!!! Im sure he will get the bulk of ABs vs RHP and YOung will continue to torch LHP

just the opposite. they think he has a ton of value to get something back. im guessing they believe with Betts and Benni being CFers as well, can step in and there wouldnt be a huge drop off in production. they may not be as good as him on D but they are still plenty good. I wouldnt trade him, but thats some of the thinking from others...seriously, who has ever said anything bad about his D?

Id start Johnson before Owens...even if he just returned from his anxiety issues

Hanley is just fine at 1b. hes got great lifetime splits. he ran into a rough spell offensively this year and was hurt all last year. it happens. to think he has an issue vs RHP because of such a tiny SS is ridiculous. you start tinkering and picking nits because of SSS then your just going to cause more issues. hanley is our 1b and should remain there.

Pretty sure all those FA will NOT be here in 2017. thats fine by me. Pass on Hanny and Im leaning on picking up the Buchholz option as we have zero pitching depth. I do think we can replace Clays depth with a lesser price tag, so im still kinda on the fence right now. Id really like that 13M. I think Kellys days as a starter are done. hes had his chances. Hes going to be around 3M for his 2nd arb. he has to be in the pen or just let him walk and save 3M. I think he can be a nice piece in the pen once he gets fully acclimated there again. Barnes, Kelly, and Smith are all hard throwers with a good off-speed pitch. Sandoval has got to be the biggest WC this off-season. Id play him in winter ball if hes ready, to show other teams hes good to go, then Id trade him if I can. maybe add a prospect or take back some salary for a player we can use. realistically, at some point in the near future it looks like Moncada is taking over 3b and Panda will have no home anyway.With Shaw and Holt were ok there until Moncada is 100% ready. Im thinking DD has to be looking at it that way as well. Rutledge has his 1st arb year 2017 so we need to think if we really want to pay him 1-1.5M or just use guys like Hernandez and Marero. Id think the latter. Swihart should get reps as a C in AAA to build that value back up a bit. hes still has plenty, but as a C he will have more. all he has to do is be serviceable behind the dish. his calling card is the athleticism and his bat as a SH catcher we have plenty of catching depth and will probably not bring back a couple guys. im guessing Holaday and Hanny. we would have Swihart and Romanski. Butler is there now but I thin k he was a 1year depth deal. he could resign again too. there will be PLENTY of movement this winter. I dont see a blockbuster, but more a lot of smaller moves. but this is DD were talking about. He could easily package up guys to get another front line starter. I just think with Price and Porcello at 1 and 1a, a 23yo Erod, Pomeranz in his prime and Wright still in the mix, theres not a glaring need to make a big splash in the rotation. If we keep Buch that rounds out a solid 1-6. hopefully Johnson or Owens can take a step forward and guys like Haley and Elias can help out, but we will need starting depth as always. as far as the pen, we have our closer and three guys I like to battle for the 7th and 8th in Barnes Kelly and Smith. i think we bring in a bunch of guys and see who sticks for the rest. I dont care to throw $$ at the pen beside a closer. maybe pay a little for an established late innings arm, but we already have a closer so no names like Chapman. those guys want to close. The pen seems like the place that needs some attention, but when I look at the roster, I dont see any real holes that cant be easily taken care of. a good amount of $$ is coming off the books and DD will be hard at work looking to shed some more of it while making the necessary improvements. 1b - Hanley - Shaw - Travis 2b - Pedey - Holt - Hernandez/Marrero ss - Bogey - Marrero - Hernandez - Holt 3b - Shaw - Holt - Panda - OF - Benintendi - JBJ - Betts - Young - Brentz - Castillo C - Leon - Vaz - Swihart - Romanski SP - Price - Porcello - Pomeranz - Erod, Wright - Buchholz - Owens - Johnson - Haley - Elias RP - Kimbrel - Smith - Barnes - Kelly - Ross jr - Hembree - Abad Guys like Kyle Martin - Robbie Scott - Brandon Workman - Austin Maddox, Noe Ramirez, and Chandler Sheppard will all be looking to secure a possible Bullpen role with Boston as well...

red sux? hmmmm after a win and 1st place? i dont think your a fan of the Sox mr 6 posts.

agree 100% i still see some with him in at 3b for 2017. To me, he doesnt look ready in any way shape or form. thats also in no way shape or form a bad thing. he still needs winter ball and to start in Pawtucket. we still have Pablo to deal with and shaw is in the mix. no need to rush the kid who has just over 100 professional games in the US under his young belt. theres still work to do on both sides of his game and Boston isnt the place for him to to that. His day will come.

HA! was saying the same thing about Clay... "Theres the Clay we all know" meanwhile Erod looked good and Pomeranz has been looking solid. IP will be his enemy