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A sensible, reasonable take on things in my book.

Correct - somewhere in the middle more than likely. I keep hearing though about young players who really haven't been playing that long, playing below their career norms. How long do you have to play in order for them to be called career norms? This could be who they are. Hope not but it could be.

Trading Shaw was not an unpopular move in the eyes of many posters here when it was done. Crying over it now, seems to be what people do .

Hey - question for you - seriously who hired this guy Farrell anyway? Who in the hell was the GM that hired this guy? lol

All ist seems to take is some losing and the guys of the past just don't look so bad don't you think? The Sox are losing and oh would it be different if Ben was leading the way. i don't buy it at all! I wonder if this has ever happened before in boston? Oh yeah - guess it has.

How many times have I heard here about how these guys are underperforming. i have never bought it at all but that is just me. The plan was to build on the pitching as opposed to signing the significant sluggers to replace Papi. If everyone had remained healthy, perhaps it would have worked and actually still might. As much as I would have loved to have seen EE signed , it didn't happen. All of the people here who have been saying all along that they have an unblinded faith in the fact that these little guys should be raking, should not be criticizing DD for not signing the big power bat. Now as for decimating the farm - really? - who did we lose for whom? Losing Shaw really does look like it hurt but if thornburg had remained healthy not so much I think. You want to give Sale and Kimbrel and Pomeranz back so you can get a do over? For whom? Hindsight hypocrisy at its best! You want them back so you can get a bigger bat - good - I like Sale and Kimbel and Pomeranz right where they are and so would every other ml club if they could get them. Time to relax - there is an adult in charge. This amazingly talented group of professionals that some of you have been slobbering over, might not be quite as good as you think they are.

For all of the good that people think has come from the internet age there are still times that maybe we actually might be better off without it.

Thanks notin - We all love this team and lifelong fans probably do feel as though it is in some way or another our team. The Red Sox really are fortunate that they have such a passionate fan base. When I hear people talk about how tough it is to play in Boston, I can't help but think that it is always tough to play somewhere that you are expected to win. It is a good thing for the most part but it can get messy sometimes I guess.

i totally agree with this. Trying to go exclusively lefties vs righties and righties vs lefties just doesn't make sense to me. I'm also opposed to what I think is an absolute over abundance of shifts that I constantly see our infielders in. All things in moderation. A time and a place so to speak.

Winning is the easy part. True character tends to come out when things don't go as planned - as in losing. Many of us have questioned from the beginning the leadership that John Farrell has provided. When things go well, leadership is an attribute that can easily get overlooked. When you are losing, you better have someone tough enough to keep a lid on all of the bad things that can come up. John Farrell seems like a good person- a good man I guess. When you are the leader, you sometimes have to be the bad guy. He strikes me like the parent whose child can never make mistakes. It is not an easy job but it is a job that has to be done. It is not simply a player's responsibility to put out all of the little brush fires that can erupt. Every now and then, even adults need to be disciplined.

We can all have our opinions regarding what was said and done but when we start assuming that we we really know what happened we are making a mistake. That is meddling. Once again, it should have been dealt with on the plane and ended. It is none of our business. Two grown men perhaps will at some pint sit down and discuss what happened between them. The best thing a fan can do right now is stay out of their business and do what fans are supposed to do.

Actually there were quite a few people here that absolutely believed that this offense was suspect coming into the season.

It is a joke and should be a non-story but with so many people thinking that our hitters are just underperforming so, it has become a scapegoat theory. There must be something wrong with them. That terrible incident on the team plane has to be the reason we just can't hit. It is once again a joke. They aren't that good. I applaud the moves made by DD and his efforts to build up our pitching core and solidify things defensively, but many of us did not have the great faith that by not replacing Ortiz our little hitters would be able score the runs necessary to win at this level. They have to work twice as hard to score.

saw that too - i agree - lack of something for sure

Like your style -

man you r quick on the trigger

Gomes

man that kid sucks at third doesn't he - where's Marrero when we need him - lol

Meant to say - all of this blat

All of this beat about going over the luxury tax is a bunch of crap.

thanks for agreeing with what I said earlier in the week - give the guy a shot.

sorry - yup

Kimbrel

I get the biggest kick out of the people here who post that this story represents such an egregious affront to mankind. I like Eck but I don't know him. I don't know Price either. This is between them. They are big boys. If Price is as good a teammate as players say that he is then what about it? We keep Eck and let Price go? I don't like the media in general and they are primarily responsible for this silly story gathering steam.

I just listened to Pedroia's interview. He is a man - he stood up like one - he answered all questions as well as he could. he says he is the leader. he says that Price will talk with Eck when he sees him. He says that Price is one of his most favorite teammates ever. He says that the team is not distracted and that they love each other. he says that they are focused. I am a fan - that is it - I am ok with him and what he said. Actually I am more than ok with it. A non-story - yup- leave it alone. That statement really is meant for the media and not for us. Move on!