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No one is disagreeing with you. I do think that money, the extension of a season, the number of pitches that have been thrown by youngsters before they even get a shot all play pivotal roles in the development of arm problems. One trend that I think is very sad to see is the emphasis on the one spot athlete. The best ones I had a chance to work with participated in more than one. We all wanted a piece of the best ones though. It didn't hurt to have to wait for them. I think the trend toward participating in more than one season will be back and quite possibly we will see fewer over use injuries as well.
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you are of course right with the "damage on the human arm" comment. I also agree with you with respect to Gibson and Ryan but I could fill pages of the names of pitchers who were just as tough mentally and physically as both of them. I really didn't mean to imply for one second that their ability or desire to stay in any game over shadowed or outshone many many others who pitched during their time. I don't think JF would have faired any better if he had tried to take the ball out of "gentleman Jim's" hands either. Micro managing has come a long way as well.
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I heard talk about them possibly trying to sign Tony Allen. I would love to see him back in Celtic green!
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I know that you are right but I did love those days. My love of baseball kind of was honed on the efforts of guys like Warren Spahn so I guess it is pretty obvious where i'm coming from with my opinions on pitchers today. it was enough for me to just see the look in Pomeranz's face the other night. I think that he is a lot tougher than we - including me - think he is. This is a big young kid who quite possibly has a very good few years in front of him. Since his dugout squabble with Farrell, he looks like he has pitched with a little chip on his shoulder - like maybe he has been out to prove something. I like that.
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very true
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I'm with you even though i fully understand that times have changed. Can you imagine John Farrell going out to the mound to try to take the ball away from Gibson after 5+ innings of work in which he gave up a couple of hits at best? Even better - how about Nolan Ryan! We might never have heard of JF.
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Another right on post - there is a time and place for everything. A ball thrown squarely to the head - even if you didn't mean to(really) can't be ignored. I'm a Chris sale guy so obviously i liked the behind the back throw at peckerhead from Baltimore even if Pedroia might not have.
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I've always used the 15 per inning as well. Times have changed for sure. There are lots of reasons for the change not the least of which is the lengthy extension to the season if a team should make the playoffs.
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I would add that Hanley's great looking career numbers might be skewed slightly by the incredible seasons he had early in his career. Obviously there have been times in recent years where he has looked like the Hanley of yesteryear but not so much now. I just want him to hit.
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Sorry - Betances should be gone for a long time. No excusing that one away although I'm sure he didn't mean to! lol squarely in the head for God's sake.
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I'm not going to do the statistical fact check but I wonder how unusual it is to use 100 pitches to get tho the 6th these days? Once again, looked to me like he didn't want his day to be done.
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I'll be going down for the first time in years. I think that they will be good right out of the gate. i also think that people are going to be surprised by the quality that comes off the bench. This year's team will not be just about the irving and Hayward deals. They stock piled a few big strong bodies that will be better than what they had last year. I don't think that the bench rebuild is quite done just yet either.
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Good one here - You know me by now - I'm never going to doubt this statistical evidence that tells us all that he is just one fine all time hitter -lol Just throwing out an observation.
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One thing that I never claimed to be was much of a hitting coach but when I see Hanley swing the bat I do get confused. If the ball is in the center of the strike zone, he stands a good chance of making contact but that swing never changes much. He doesn't give me the impression that he swings at the ball as opposed to just swinging through the strike zone. The best hitters whether they are simply contact or power hitters look to me as though they are actually locating the ball and making adjustments to hit it where it is pitched. We can all hope that he gets a chance to see a few more hangers in the middle of the zone I guess. Those he murders!
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I also have to add that what Kluber did last night to Nunez was ridiculous. I don't think that swinging hard really merits getting hit by a pitch. That being said, i really hope that we see nothing that resembles retaliation for Kluber's stupid move out of Sale. Just win the game.
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Pomeranz has come a long way in the eyes of many. I really have liked the kid and now I like him more. He is a big left hander who has some pop on that fastball and a devastating curve ball. What I really liked seeing though was the other night when the camera gave us a shot of him on the dugout steps. He really looked like he wanted to stay in that game. I get the knock on his failure to get us depict games but the way pitching is approached has changed dramatically. He has been held to the proverbial 100+ a few pitch count even when things have gone well. I really think that his "toughness" factor has elevated throughout the course of this season. I'm sure that it hasn't hurt having Sale at the top of the rotation. My guess is that Pomeranz's best years are ahead of him.
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nice post thunder and I agree about IT. Without him this year, the Celtics don't get to where they got. I think that we will all be surprised and impressed watching Irving game in and game out. he is at the top of the point guard food chain.
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Thanks DD - lol
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We are in good shape for the final push - Let's hope that the JBJ thumb injury doesn't amount to anything. Need him . Get the the dark lords back healthy - Price and Pedroia - this team might be the one to beat.
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Pomeranz play to date Max is not a big a surprise to me. I think that he has the potential to be better. That being said, I hope he keeps it going tonight.
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If you are Celtics fan and maybe even a Red Sox fan, I think that it always tough to see good players - good team players - leave. I agree with "best handicapper" though that Crowder could not guard James - no one really can. With him gone, there is a clear avenue for Brown who really did look good this summer. Good as in ready now. This move also might allow for Tatum to get the needed minutes to progress as well. IT has good years ahead of him for sure I just could not see him getting the max contract that he is going to want. I also think that Irving is just better overall.
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I'm looking ahead with this deal. Sooner or later Lebron is gone - eventually even if he doesn't leave Cleveland, he has to slow down. I think that this deal sets the Celtics up for years to come. Think I'll just say it - Kyrie is bigger,younger and better than It. Keeping Crowder and IT would not have moved the Cletics closer to the top. I think that this move does - now and in the future. Might even help Cleveland this year and in the long run as well.
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i think that you are probably right here but it is close. If Brown and Tatum come along, i 'm going with us. This is a very very good trade for Celtics IMO. I appreciate what both IT and Crowder gave to us, but it wasn't going to be enough going forward. "Backing up the Brinks" truck for IT just wasn't going to happen and I think Crowder was destined to be a role player. I'm very anxious to see what the Coach Stevens can accomplish with this group. Just another great move for the future for this team!
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Being a duly diagnosed OCD guy all the way myself, i think that I do understand where you are coming from. I'm not sure that I am in the let's get rid of Farrell group to the extent that some are (can i say that without naming names here? am I safe?), but I appreciate the conviction with which you and some others express yourselves. if they continue to play hard for him even though it isn't always prefaced by being smart and they keep winning, I would probably go with keeping him.
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oh nononono! he is just developing into his own person! (that's a joke moon)