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Ortiz wasn't notified what he tested positive for. So using common sense, isn't it likely he was part of the above group? As I said before, Manny was notified what he tested for. He knew.

That's why I said "If" it makes the playoffs.

I need some proof that the testing was steroid-specific. As far as I've read, it was PED testing. Sources please.

^So simple.

God you're annoying.

I am shallow! You know me too well.

U srs brah?

God I hate Rougned Odor. His name is stupid, his face is stupid, and he's a douchebag. A winning trifecta!

It works well in real life. Or is the legal system a cartoon? The point is to not condemn the innocent because of the cheaters, and that's the way it should work. You are conflating two different topics here. The question is, should all guys who fail a test, regardless of circumstances, be run out of the league? That's the question that needs to be answered here.

Jacko's always theorized that you need three solid starters, a good bullpen, and above-average offense to win in the playoffs. I think if this team beefs up its bullpen and makes the playoffs it'll be a threat.

http://mlb.mlb.com/images/players/525x330/alt/456034.jpg David "True Ace" Price 8-4, 4.24 Vs http://mlb.mlb.com/images/players/525x330/607259.jpg Nick (who?) Martinez 1-1, 5.14 Price has not been very good at Texas, but Martinez is precisely the kind of pitcher the Sox should hammer into next year. With the last two games looking like slump-busters for the offense, we should expect some fireworks for this one. WIN *******S!

In b4 TBSB uncle/aunt comment.

You do know it's a joke about Trot Nixon?

In a walk-off situation, I'll bunt a guy from second to third with no out if the hitter is a good bunter.

Blackstone's formulation.

Lies! All lies! It's a conspiracy!

Of course there's a comparison. Either willingly or unwillingly, they both cheated. The point here is that there are different circumstances to any case. What initiated this discussion was the extremist stance of "No PED users evah!!!11!!!" taken by some people here. I'm calling out the hypocrisy of it. It's fine if you don't condone steroid use in MLB, but there's a difference between a cheater and a guy who took a bottle of cold medicine that has adverse effects on your hormone levels, like Mondesi Jr. did.

UN? mojo barely pulled through. Hoping for better luck tomorrow.

Score runs *******s.

Jacko, it's really simple: David Ortiz failed a test back in 2003, and has never failed a test again. He's been tested numerous times, and you can essentially, and realistically, chalk it up to drinking a tainted supplement here in donkeyland. Do you know how many times athletes have gotten suspended here from international competition from drinking a tainted supplement? The DR olympic committee has had to take complete control over what supplements people take here. It doesn't matter: Vitamins, cold medicine, it's a mess. And even better, he owned it, and moved on. Clemens f***ing cheated. He never failed a test, but you know he cheated multiple times, and threw his wife and best friend under the bus after receiving steroids multiple times. So subject A failed a test, and didn't even get notified what for because of what can be interpreted as a minor issue. Manny got notified because he was using steroids outright, no tainted supplements. Subject B is a heavy user, shits on other people to save his legacy, and is a class A *******. Seems identical to me!

A hit from Hernandez here would be golden.

Runs will be scored today.

I'm just f***ing with you an. Shields will be fine. He's not this bad. But we dodged a bullet not trading for him (for now).

Jacko, I love the new version of you, but your reading comprehension is still terrible.

Totally about you. We all wanted him as innings-eater rotation filler. (Hell, he can probably still be that, as he's just going through a rough stretch probably). But he's clearly not an ace or number two.