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  1. Elktonnick
    For what's worth I think JH cleaned out all the LL guys including BC. Nevertheless that doesn't answer the "important" question of who's going to inherit the yellow headphones and the seat behind home plate?
  2. Elktonnick
    What about Jeremy Kapstein? He is the one who got the shaft. What did Jeremy do to get fired? Who is going to take his place behind home plate, Jason Varitek? I wonder how Jason will look wearing those yellow headphones?
  3. Elktonnick
    And your point is? Whether Dombrowski convinced Henry to change his mind or Henry changed his mind on his own, (one can only speculate which) the end result is the same Henry didn't trust Cherrington to lead the effort to rebuild the Red Sox. I suspect that those two losing seasons raised legitimate questions about Cherrington's competence to run baseball operation. I think Henry made the right decision. Cherrington needed someone more competent to run baseball ops. Like I've said before I have no problem with Ben as an advisor but I think the results raise serious reservations about his fitness to be the top guy in any major league baseball operations shop.
  4. Elktonnick
    What the Cherrington sycophants fail to realize is that it was part of his job to convince ownership to allocate the resources necessary for him to make proper acquisitions. When he was provided those resources, however, he used them poorly and failed to achieve the desired results. Now the "Poor Ole Ben Cherrington " crowd says well if he had the money for pitching that Dombrowski has he'd have done just as well. However, that belies another irrefutable fact, the person in the best position to evaluate Ben's performance decided he wanted to trust some one other than Ben to make those decisions. I guess John Henry didn't think Ben accomplishments with the farm system worth that much to trust him being one to lead the team's baseball operations going forward.
  5. Elktonnick
    What I find fascinating and no one on this board has mentioned to any great degree is the Red Sox "quietly parted ways' with Jeremy Kapstein last month. If you look at Kapstein's record and read the Globe article he was more than just the guy who sat behind home plate with the big yellow earphones. He was Luchhino's guy and one who had unquestionable access and considerable influence in FO thinking. I find it more than curious that Cherrington Kapstein and Luchhino all were "eased out" together. This obviously begs the question was Cherrington like Kapstein seen by Henry as Luchhino's guy. For those who like "Kremlin" watching it is an interesting question to ponder.
  6. Elktonnick
    The latter part of your post says it all and proves my point, Ben did a lousy job when left to his own devices and got fired for it.
  7. Elktonnick
    What is irrefutable is the only person with all the information about Cherrington's performance lost confidence in him and had him replaced.
  8. Elktonnick
    It's not, but as Henry's nbr baseball operations guy he has to take responsibility for the decisions that were made. His job was to make the recommendations for those deals that were outside his budgetary authority. Ben Cherrington for all his faults is a standup guy. I never ever heard him say that Larry wanted this or that done and he Cherrington opposed it. I can recall no one definitively reporting that Sandoval or Ramirez was Larry's idea and he ordered Ben to sign them over Ben's objections. So why does any one presume that every dumb move had LL's fingerprints all over it and not Ben's. Ben either made recommendations or he didn't. And if his recommendations on major signings were not being followed by ownership then he wasn't worth the salary he was being paid.
  9. Elktonnick
    We can only speculate but Ben was Chief of Baseball Operations so unless he is an entirely empty suit he can't escape responsibility for the mess. If he wasn't responsible and he was an empty suit then he should have been fired as being totally worthless. You can't have it both ways.
  10. Elktonnick
    What a crock a of hooey! Price has an opt out clause in three years. He is so impressed with the opportunity to play with these young players in " two or three years" that he has that clause included in his contract. You can believe in the tooth fairy if you want but you can't deny the fact that money talks (217 big ones in fact) and BS walks. The idea that all of what Dombrowski accomplished is because of Cherrington's wonderful farm system is simply more BS of wishful thinking that Cherrington actually accomplished something during his tenure as Chief of Baseball Operations other than leaving a pile of crap for some one competent to clean up . Regarding the farm system it was actually Theo who put together the strategy and infrastructure that made the farm system what it is today. Cherrington only can be credited with following Epstein's lead. Obviously John Henry wasn't that impressed with young Ben's efforts otherwise he wouldn't have fired him.
  11. Elktonnick
    The Dodger's sure are snakebit this offseason. They also are still stuck with Puig who is called the "worst person in baseball" by one ex teammate. Dave Roberts is going to have his work cut out for him.
  12. Elktonnick
    I have been fairly vocal that I thought Lackey was a "slug" and I am glad to see him gone from Boston. I thought Cherrington did a terrible job as the chief of baseball operations. He apparently was a good subordinate but terrible when left to his own devices. That being said I can't balme him for letting John Lackey go.
  13. Elktonnick
    Not to be rude but that is nonsense. 217 million dollars over 7 years not the state of the farm system is the reason David Price signed with the Red Sox.
  14. Elktonnick
    I've never met Ben Cherrington so I neither like nor dislike the man since I don't know him. Based on his record, however, he did well as a subordinate but not so well as the chief of baseball operations. He is a perfect example of the "Peter Principle". He was promoted beyond his level of competence.
  15. Elktonnick
    The only guy who had a vote, John Henry, was also impatient. I guess he didn't think Cherrington's 2013 work outweighed his screw up in 2014 and 2015 to justify keeping in his old job that's why he fired him from it.
  16. Elktonnick
    I saw the Marlin's GM on the MLB network and I later heard him on MLB radio. He made it clear that he knows Fernandez's value and he isn't going to let him go cheaply if at all. I think the Marlins were just stirring the pot to see if anything came of it.
  17. Elktonnick
    Marlin's won't let Fernandez go unless Dombrowski parts with the farm's top prospects and two ML starters. Marlins will want too much.
  18. Elktonnick
    3 last place finishes. The way to look at it is: he took a championship team and so screwed it up that it finished last the next two seasons. With that on his resume would you really trust him to be the top man for your baseball organization.
  19. Elktonnick
    "Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before a fall."
  20. Elktonnick
    Duquette had to wait 12 years before he had to wait before he got another chance and he was "lucky" to land the Orioles job. It remains to be seen whether Cherrington will get another opportunity. It depends on how he is truly perceived by ownership. As a general rule, however, the longer one is away the more difficult it is to land the top job. He reportedly has already turned down the nbr 2 job elsewhere. We'll see how many other serious offers come his way. It won't be easy the longer he stays out of basball
  21. Elktonnick
    On this one, I partly agree with you. Fan impatience was partly responsible for Ben's firing. This was demonstrated by the sharp drop in NESN viewership. But that wasn't the sole reason. I think Henry lost confidence that Ben had the capability to reverse the downturn in the team's on the field performance. This downturn if it continued would affect not on the relative value of the Red Sox franchise but also NESN. Moreover Henry didn't like to playing second fiddle to the Patriots. At least that's what I was reading in the various Boston media.
  22. Elktonnick
    Dombrowski's hiring to a job which was superior to the one that Cherrington had was a demotion and a humiliation Ben couldn't bear. Ownership knew it and that's why they did it. Ben was fired from the job he had. The fact that he was offered another job in the organization with significant less authority doesn't alter that fact.
  23. Elktonnick
    That and most importantly how he calls a game and his relationship with the starting pitchers.
  24. Elktonnick
    They climbed only to collapse again in 2014.
  25. Elktonnick
    They climbed only to collapse again in 2014.
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