iortiz
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You are a mass of contradictions. You said that you don't need comparisons. SFF put a list and now you approve it. Of course you need to take references in order to make a case. Problem in his case, nobody match him today no named Mo. I already rest my case. You refuse to see the point and the facts. You just can't accept that he could have a great career. You say that he will injure some how. There's no single clue under his belt in order to think that. You said that he just started a decline. That's a dead wrong. Numbers do not lie. Check them out.
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Not sure why. The comparison is not even fair.
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Thing is, he has been terrific. Period. He is not the another "reliever". He's out of that bulk. Numbers are there. He has been durable. He is still young. He'll be fine or better than when he was here.
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1. well, just saying... just in case. 2. When I said that other no named Papelbon would have been an experiment is because Pap was already proved here... the others?, well, no, because haven't had that role here...hence would have been experiments/gambles/bets/risks or whatever you want to call it . No rocket science here. Not sure where's the problem.
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Pap still a beast.
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What are 2012-2013 Pap's numbers?
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1. Means that it could help u if your head is about to explode. 2. Nothing is for sure in this life but given the facts he would have been the best bet.
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This is whata Im talking about. None of them has Pap's record. None. As I said, Pap is driving in other highway.
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admitted being wrong? on what? your head is going to explode? as I said earlier, take a pill
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You are taking this out of context.
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Problem is that our great FO love to put tons of money in wounded old fat horses and invent the cold water with their experiments instead of keeping the solid durable proved players. This is Pap case.
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Not sure what is your point, but yeah, this game is fun.
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No, you are the one who is wrong here. Yup, Pap was an experiment for them, but is working out. They made a case and thought that he worth that contract. They haven't been wrong thus far. On the other hand we keep making experiments while taxing us collateral damage.
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Well, then show me a closer with his track record, no named Mo. I'm waiting.
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Exactly. You put it in a better way than me
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All of them are/were/will/would have been experiments. All.
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A hand of allstars are not in the same wagon (Soriano, Nathan)? C'mon man. Aceves was an experiment. Bard was an experiment. Padilla was an experiment. And Tazawa will be an experiment.
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While I like those names, still they would have been experiments. Jenks, Bailey and Hanrahan on paper were good options at time. Look what happened/is happening.
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Podemos debatir en espa?ol si quieres jajaja
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So your solution is keep on in experimental mode until you find the one while taxing you money, prospects, careers, wins, etc? It was easier. You had to keep the one who had proved succeed, we're not reinventing the wheel here. Anyway, what is done is done. Hopefully all these experiments end up in a happy ending some day.
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You look at the facts, then make a diagnosis and try to put a solution and preview the future. It's called prudence. When I see Pap's history (facts) all indicates that he would have succeeded the next 4 years as closer since he signed. You could make a case comparing him with others. My point all this time is that there's no closer who you can compare with him since there's nobody who can match his numbers, so you just can't make an accurate case, and the only one who can match him is making what Pap is making right now and still succeeding. Why not to think that he is in that highway? why?
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As I said, several times he said that our great FO didn't even showed interest in his services, so he had to consider other options. Plain and simple.
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I just can not find ANY closer (aside Mo) with Pap's numbers... and when I say numbers I mean it in all the categories (SV, ERA, IP, time, division, etc.) through 9 years in the ALE. You just won't find him dude. Since you won't find this guy, ALL the new guys you bring would be experiments, like has been since his departure, that's all my point and case. Unfortunately as I've been saying all those experiments have cost us tons of money, prospects, in some cases screwing some player's careers, and most important, WINS.
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Fixed
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It's all about money. They did't even offer a contract. They (FO) didn't want him. He said that tons of times.
