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  1. Yanks give up 4 (so far) in the 9th, down 5-2 to Twins.
  2. For as eventful as Friday night was, today has been really, really boring. I thought we'd see some sort of retaliation today, given that we had RDLR pitching yesterday and the veteran today. Maybe waiting for the next series, though.
  3. Zing. Good one. I'm not panicked. I just foresee this being an issue again next year that could easily be avoided.
  4. Was it Steve Lyons who compared Brock Holt to David Eckstein? I love the comp.
  5. Just to be clear, I really hope I'm wrong and moving Bogaerts to 3B doesn't impact him at SS next year, and Drew does great at SS/Bogaerts does great at 3B and while we're at it, give us another WS. I just think it's a panic move that is going to bite us in the long run.
  6. His track record shows that he learns quickly offensively, but the learning curve isn't so dramatic defensively. And my point is to put Drew at 3B and keep Bogaerts at SS. I don't think Drew, defensively, is as big of an upgrade over Bogaerts as people make it out to be. Drew had a very good season last year but over his career he's been an average SS, that's it. While he may be a bit better now, give Bogaerts another month of growth and it's very very close.
  7. It has nothing to do with "moving my favorite player out of position". If anyone is biased in this, it's clearly you, who has stated multiple times that part of the reason of acquiring Drew was because of Bogaerts SS defense, which has been vehemently denied by all of the Red Sox brass. The reason we have statistics and particularly advanced stats is because the eye test leads isn't accurate, you only pay attention when it confirms your believe. Right now, Bogaerts, defensively, is an above average defensive SS. The statistics state that. And calling him the best SS in the AL is not "hyperbole", it's a fact, and we're 1/3 of the way through the year. It's not 2 weeks in and he's got a 0.4 WAR compared to everyone else's 0.2 WAR. Moving Bogaerts is only going to force the Red Sox to swallow these lumps again next season, and what are we going to do then when we hit a skid? Go sign another SS? Great, that sounds like a fantastic plan. Really, really smart thinking to agree with this idea.
  8. No, he won't. http://www.providencejournal.com/sports/red-sox/content/20140601-bogaerts-to-play-third-base-full-time-once-drew-arrives.ece "For the time being, in getting to know Xander even more and how he responds to things, we would put him at third base and leave him there rather than bounce back and forth,” Farrell said. “Down the line, if there’s two righthanded hitters that could play the right side of the infield, that might have us put him back at shortstop, but where we are right now, we just want to get Xander more acclimated and comfortable and leave him at third for the time being." There are no plans to put him at SS vs LHP. That was a media fabricated idea.
  9. I don't have a problem with that alignment other than Bogaerts is continuously improving at SS, as shown by his recent play, and you're, at the very least, delaying that growth. Taking ground balls at SS does not equal game experience, so "getting reps" doesn't mean he's not going to miss about 100 games worth of actual game reps, which is where you make improvements. If taking ground balls equated to game experience, he wouldn't have had any kind of learning curve. To say that Bogaerts hasn't seen incredible strides even in the last month is just being biased. It makes zero sense to move the best SS in the AL off of SS. If Drew is such a good defender, put him at 3B so that you don't lose your growth with your 21 year old future superstar. As for the defensive metrics, that's all we have to go off of right now, along with the eye test which says that he's been a very, very good SS over the past month, and his improvement is easy to see.
  10. Rubby. And he pitched an amazing game.
  11. Hey Fred - Get excited, your favorite player is starting tonight
  12. If you always play for this year without an eye pointed to the future, you turn into the Yankees without the money to go out and sign 500mm worth of players in an offseason.
  13. It's a stupid statement because it's using advanced stats to prove a point. Ok.
  14. Huh? Since when do you give the better hitter 3rd? If they're both playing the field, then who cares who plays where in terms of how each player hits? You generally give the better defender SS, but Bogaerts (6.1 UZR/150 over 520 innings) is not nearly as bad as people think, and is not a big enough drop off to consider hampering his development by giving the position to Drew (career -3.3 UZR/150, last year 6.7 UZR/150). Bogaerts "poor defense" is a narrative and that's all it is. It's entirely better than people here give it credit for, and it is still developing, which is even more reason to keep him at SS.
  15. Not true. Why does everyone like to go with the "Oh, Drew played SS & Bogaerts at 3B when they won the WS". That's completely meaningless. They also won with Jonny Gomes playing LF against RHP. Should we go with that everyday too? Because he basically played LF vs RHP the entire playoffs. That argument holds no water. Are the Red Sox better this year with Drew at SS and Bogaerts at 3B? Sure. But do you want to go into 2015 with essentially a rookie at SS again and a rookie behind the plate? No. You have already taken the lumps with Bogaerts at SS and you're about to start reaping the benefits. Drew is a 1 year stop gap. Put him at 3B, let Bogaerts play SS everyday and learn the position so that in the future he doesn't have those lumps. Just makes no sense to me. You've got a beast at SS right now, the best shortstop in the American League and the 2nd best in all of baseball, he's 21 and developing, and you're moving him off his position? No. That's a bad move.
  16. They also won 97 games last year with a 3.4 WAR player at SS and a black hole at 3B. Bogaerts is on pace for a 5.4 WAR. And it's not only about winning right now, it's about winning in the future as well. I don't know why everyone wants to say he's ultimately going to be a 3B. It's like you guys have it in your mind that he's going to be a 3B just because he's big, and no matter how much he improves (his DEF rating is 11th best of all MLB SS's, 5th best among all AL SS's). So, I don't get why everyone wants to plug him at 3B long term. A SS who can hit like Bogaerts can hit is insanely more valuable than a 3B who can hit like Bogaerts can hit.
  17. I'd rather see how Drew handles 3B and let Bogaerts continue to improve at SS. That's much, much better for the long term success of the Red Sox. Just look at how much he's improved over 2 months. He's the best SS in the American League and the 2nd best SS in all of baseball behind Tulo. He's posted 1.8 WAR in 52 games, basically 1/3 of the season. That's on pace for a 5.4 WAR season. You don't move a 5+ WAR SS off of his position. Especially not one that is still improving and is only 21. This is the equivalent of moving Ellsbury to LF for Cameron.
  18. Bogaerts keeps looking better and better at SS. Now has a career +6.1 UZR/150 at SS. And improving seemingly everyday. I would rather see Drew play 3B than Bogaerts.
  19. Fred, this is why you don't get so worked up over small samples. When you were upset about X's numbers w RISP, he had about 30 PA. So few that his average jumped by 75 points in just 2 games. Xander is one of our best players, by WAR he's been our best position player. He's the 2nd best SS in the MLB by WAR, #1 in AL. Just gotta give him some time to make his adjustments.
  20. Has anyone heard anything about Mookie Betts? He hasn't been in the Sea Dogs lineup the past 2 nights, but I haven't seen anything about him being hurt. Can't imagine he's hurt without anyone knowing. I'd be beyond shocked if he was involved in a trade. Perhaps a promotion to AAA that just hasn't yet been announced?
  21. Right, and I think that's why they made Drew a QO, not because of any doubts about Xander.
  22. Gavin Floyd career: 70-71, 4.44 ERA Gavin Floyd vs Red Sox: 7-0, 3.21 ERA. Gavin Floyd at Fenway: 3-0, 2.84 ERA. Is this real life?!?!? Change these garbage stats tonight, pls.
  23. I think they were comfortable with Drew coming back because Middlebrooks was such a volatile player. And once Drew declined the QO, they didn't make any kind of push for him after that until Middlebrooks went down. Drew is clearly better than Bogaerts defensively, I agree with that, and by signing Drew and moving Bogaerts to 3B, the team is better. But I really believe that if Middlebrooks was producing like he did in 2012, Drew would be still working out without a team to sign him.
  24. To be fair, though, the 2012 Sox stuck right around .500 the entire season until Ortiz went down, then they made the trade, and then they just fell on their face.
  25. I just disagree. 2014, to me at least, is a year where the team is transitioning it's core players. From 2015 on, the core should be Pedroia, Bogaerts, & hopefully JBJ (position player speaking), with guys like Vazquez/Swihart and Betts transitioning in during 2015 and 2016. Either way, it's silly to sit there and take the lumps of Bogaerts defensively at SS (which he has improved significantly) and JBJ offensively and then not let them stick around long enough to reap the rewards from those lumps.
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