alphilip77

Because he has nothing better to do...I don't even think Yankee fans like him

You do realize you're just talking to yourself? Is this how you get your daily socialization? Hanging out on rival message boards? How does it feel knowing no one gives a s*** about what your team does during the course of the game? Are you so obnoxious that even Yankee fans don't want you around? How sad. If winning one game makes you feel better in a season where you won't win jack, then more power to you.

Personally, I don't want Salty back. The guy is a butcher behind the dish and his bat isn't good enough to offset his bad defense. I don't know much about Quintero's defense, but I'd venture to guess he's an upgrade (and I use upgrade very lightly in this instance) over Salty. And given our rotation's instability at the moment, they need catchers that are at least competent catching-wise.

Humberto Quintero come on down!!!

Get out of here with that s***...

Congratulations, you should be proud. Here, have a cookie.

My guess is they wanted to hedge their bets and pay for potential. Porcello is a unique case among next year's crop of FA pitchers. He's a groundball pitcher whose pitched well leading up to a career year in 2014. His peripherals suggest that he was the victim of poor defense during his tenure in Detroit, something that should be remedied with a better infield defense (though I'm rather tentative on including Bogaerts). Throw in that he's 26 going on 27, is a quality #3 (potentially #2), not to mention durable and you'd could see some team (i.e. NY) throwing bookoo money at him next winter. If last year is any indication of where Porcello is trending, this will end up as a solid deal.

Not today. Televised games start (for the Sox anyway) Thursday. I think I heard somewhere today's game will be on WEEI.

Even though they're divisional rivals, it would be wise for the Sox to at least see what Toronto would be willing to give for one of our extra OFers (ideally Victorino or Craig). Saunders tore his meniscus and will be out until the ASB, and they're pretty desperate for a replacement (to the point they've discussed putting Danny Valenica in left).

More importantly, now that the Sox have signed someone the Yankees coveted, let's see how Jacko tries to spin this as a bad move.

Sox apparently pursuing Alexi Ogando "aggressively." If this guy can get healthy, I would love him as a 7th or 8th inning guy in the bullpen. Could spell Tazawa or Mujica from time to time.

Given his age, five years is ridiculous. I know it's likely his last chance to cash in, but to pay a pitcher into his late 30s that much money is absurd. I'd offer him 3 years at a much higher AAV, with the possibility of a 4th year if his agent twisted my arm, but that would be it. If someone else wants to give him that contract I certainly won't lose any sleep at night.

I highly doubt Middlebrooks all of a sudden becomes a stud hitter moving from 81 games at hitter friendly Fenway plus 18 at equally friendly Camden Yards and New Yankee Stadium to 81 games at Petco with another 9 or so at AT&T Park. While the fact that he'll be playing 18 games between Chase and Coors might offset those numbers to a degree, I don't think it'll be anything extreme. By years end, Padres fans will see why he was worth only Ryan Hanigan. Will is nothing more than a poor man's Mark Reynolds.

Porcello to Boston for Cespedes. There's our two. Just need a one and we're pretty much set.

@iortiz: We don't gain much by starting Cespedes over Betts and Castillo. Cespedes is a known quantity at this point: he's a low OBP guy with some bop in his bat and a cannon of an arm. Plus he's almost 30. I'm not saying he stinks, but the Red Sox would be doing themselves a disservice by starting him over higher upside guys like Betts or Castillo. Also, Castillo was given $72 mil a few months ago, which means the FO believes he is a major league caliber player. You don't send guys down for seasoning when they're being paid that much scratch. His "seasoning" came last September when he was in the minors for a week or so. Cespedes will be moved. It's not a matter of if, but when and for who.

David Kaplan of CSNChicago.com reports that the Cubs have offered free agent left-hander Jon Lester a six-year deal worth "north of" $135 million. Let's hope the bit about the Sox being open to negotiating with Lester is true, because that 110-120 contract offer ain't gonna cut the mustard.

If signing two of the best offensive players from this year's FA pool to modest (in terms of length) deals is "shooting ourselves in the foot" then you guys must have taken a shotgun and blown your brains out last winter by comparison. You say your team has their own problems, so rather than laughing at us for getting two "overrated" players why don't you worry about Tanaka possibly blowing out his elbow? Or how many games Tex will miss this year? Or if A-Roid will even hit his body weight? I could go on but the Yankee's flaws are well known, not to mention numerous and pretty significant compared to the Sox. In the grand scheme of things, yes, our starting rotation is not where it should be as of today. But that doesn't mean it will stay as such. It's a long winter bubby brister, wait until things play out.

Your team is paying obscene money to an aging CF whose whole game is based on his legs, and has long term deals committed to a broken down overrated catcher and a declining 1B. Oh, and you're still paying A-Rod for 3 more years. You have no leg to stand on.

Nick Cafardo is reporting that the Sox are believed to be in the lead for Sandoval. Says their offer is 5/95. If true he could be a Red Sox by the end of the weekend.

Red Sox supposedly "prioritizing" Headley and Sandoval this offseason, as well as considering Aramis Ramirez if the Brewers let him go according to CBS Sports. No way do I want Sandoval. Give me Headley over him any day of the week.

What the hell did he say or do to get you so upset?

I see where you're coming from. And you're right, my response was mostly emotional. But a week later, I still feel the same way. I've honestly seen nothing from the coaching staff to suggest that next year we'll be any better. When you're trotting out your set up man, who clearly has dead arm, every other day in a meaningless season, further jeopardizing any chance you have at being competitive next year, I have a problem with that. And if you want a frame of reference as to how bad our manager is, look at our division. Joe Girardi has kept the Yankees in the playoff hunt with Chris Capuano and Brandon McCarthy. Think about that for a second: two guys who have absolutely no business starting games, let alone in the AL East, acquired for next to nothing are contributing. The Rays absolutely sucked to start the year due to injuries, traded their ace pitcher, and are STILL only a couple games under .500 and within shouting distance of the second wild card spot. And Showalter goes without saying. Like I stated earlier, I'd love to see what a competent manager could do with some of these kids like Maddon does in Tampa, but unfortunately it won't be happening anytime soon. Another aspect that I think needs to be seriously evaluated is the GM. Maybe not this winter, but definitely next winter if there's no improvement next year. Look at his track record as far as trades. We gave the Pirates a guy who turned into their closer for a fat sack of s*** who pitched all of 5 or so games, and out of the Punto trade, all we have to show for it is Rubby with Webster looking like s*** and the other two players being traded (up until last night with DeJesus coming back). And say what you want about what the Rays got for Price, at least they got young, cost controlled prospects with upside. And the best we got for Lester? A competitive pick and a Cuban version of Mike Napoli, who only has one year left on his deal. Unacceptable. I don't care if he only had a few months left on his deal. A year ago the Cubs got Olt and three other prospects for a rental of f***ing Matt Garza. Then they go and get Addison Russell and other prospects this year for Samardzija and a s***** Jason Hammel. If Billy Beane or anyone else wanted Jon Lester so bad, put their balls in a vice and demand proper compensation. Worst case scenario, you hold onto him, take the draft pick and tell the public what was being offered if/when they start bitching. No reason on God's green earth to settle when you have a f***ing 2x WS winning ace who has pitched in the toughest of markets. And if they were so worried about the length of the deal, offer him a shorter deal at a higher AAV. It's atrocious that they let their best homegrown pitcher this side of Clemens go for nothing.

Some (or all) will disagree with me on this, but I think the Red Sox need to fire John Farrell. This bit of, "Hey, let's hire guys because of familiarity" is getting old. The one time they actually went outside the Francona gang was when they picked the absolute worst candidate available (Valentine). Even though they're 15 or whatever games under .500, outside of Pedey and some of the young kids, there's no hustle. I don't care if they're guys like Kelly Johnson who are staying for a cup of coffee or one of the "can't miss prospects" sucking camel dick; find something to play for for the next 30 days. Whether your incentive is pride or setting yourself up for a nice pay day this winter, I don't care, just have a purpose to play when you show up at the ballpark. It doesnt matter if they win or lose, either, just have some pride. Let's call it last year what it was by the way; the whole organization had a golden horseshoe lodged up their collective asses. If Myers doesn't f*** up that fly ball in the ALDS or Benoit actually got Ortiz out in Gm 2, there is no story book ending. There's more but I'm not going to bother since it's been established numerous times the last few months. I think the Sox should find a way to pry Maddon from the Rays. If it takes giving them JBJ or some other buy-low prospect, so be it. The guy might be a prick, but unlike Valentine he's got a competent record, and he's doing it in one of, if not the smallest market in all of baseball. Plus he's no stranger to the Boston media. I'd love to see what he could do with some of our younger players. Farrell has done nothing to show that he can teach the kids. Just a Francona redux.

You take 'em how you can get 'em. If this was the Yankees, you'd be saying, "Good teams find a way to win, bad teams find a way to lose." Quit taking a s*** on our win you hypocrite.

Now I know why you've been hanging around a Red Sox forum for almost 8 years. Because you're such an insufferable douchebag even yankee fans don't want you around. There's 5+ months left to play so get off your high horse.