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You quoted me without even reading but a small portion, you didn't even read my earlier posts. I should be president of the teaching Palodios and Soxfanforsyth to read club.

At least you admit that your argument is based on his hot streak now.

also, the very fact that you jumped on the wagon when it was gaining momentum sort of kills your argument, and adds to mine that everyone needs to take a step back, chill, and realize he doesn't have .900 OPS potential.

I think it's more of a shame on your ability to read clear text properly.

Another gem from Palo.

Minor league achievements are unsubstantial to this argument, AA, AAA, whatever. 50 point increase in SLG but nothing else really, I was actually trying to find the splits where his SLG% was over .500-.550 for like 3 months. :dunno: I said that .750 OPS is realistic for him earlier in this thread, which is what he's done this season as a whole. This is all I ever said: He isn't going to put up the numbers he did for his hot streak.

You don't even read into the context, you just see that little bit and you quote it. You don't read into anything I'm saying at all.

I'm not, you're picking spots and taking them out of context to feed your argument.

An increase in slugging percentage, but nothing else is the classic symptom of a fluke offensive season, which Salty has. Regardless of whether or not if it's in tune with his AA numbers, which is completely unsubstantial in this argument.

I have said at most that I don't think it's sustainable, I did not say it's "completely unsustainable". If he had a 1.300 OPS, that's unsustainable. I've only said that I don't necessarily believe he will sustain his .850 OPS that he had for a few months into the next season. That is all I've said.

I didn't say unsustainable, his only stat that was up was his SLG%, that is all. That's a huge stretch from unsustainable. Try pulling something out of your ass that actually fits the description of what you're going on about.

I give up.

I'm sorry to hear of your illness, VA.

EEEHHHHHHH!!!!! Wrong answer! The two of you (Dojji and you) could build an army of scarecrows with all this straw!

Refer to my last post, you seriously are not even listening. Not reading anything I say at all. This is nothing more than more overly-optimistic irrational ******** where you try and paint my argument to be a certain way that it definitely is not. It's very clear, too, I'm not speaking Greek here. I'll put this in simple terms: 1. Salty arrives to Boston, having been a disappointment over his short career and having little expectations. 2. Salty starts out slow, the fans for the most part are all "boo he sucks get rid of him!!", look back on the game threads when he was struggling early on, you'll see what I mean. 3. Salty starts to tear it up, Dojji makes a post basically hinting that maybe it's time we "eat crow" on him, implying he's the real deal. 4. Salty continues to tear it up, Red Sox Nation, Talksox included, is all "dude Salty's one of the top 3 catchers in the AL!!" and explaining how this is just him becoming what he was supposed to be. This is where I simply suggest maybe you should take it easy, as this could very easily be a fluke, and he isn't an .850 OPS hitter afterall. 5. He stinks it up for a few weeks, his averages are starting to go back down to career averages, the exception of his 50 point boost in slugging percentage. All I did was say that you guys should take it easy on the pro-Salty stuff. I for one don't feel like getting saddled with the mediocre catcher he was before. Your argument is based off the success of two months out of his major league career. This is extremely irrational.

Based on 2 months, vs the majority of 5 years of being mediocre *gasp*. I find it pretty sad that I have to say this again, my argument is largely just reminding you that he's been good for 2 months of his career, and that you really ought to hold your breath on that top-3 catcher crap.

I was waiting for the king of straw to show up, and you did. My point of view is that he's not elite, and a mediocre bat overall. Good try, though. Let's see, I've quoted your posts drooling over the supposed fact that he's an elite offensive catcher. My point is that you people just drool over him like his hot streak was going to sustain throughout his career, that was the implication, considering that whenever anyone mentions his career averages, which are average to dare I say MEDIOCRE, they're treated like some sort of lunatic who can't see that Salty is now just achieving the potential that he was promised. Unfortunately, I was always just saying "yeah I hope you're right, but don't get too excited". Weren't you the one who was making those thinly veiled hints that we should be eating crow on him? To me, that implies something like he's going to sustain some of this success. That is my argument, that Red Sox Nation needs to pull back a little. All sports fans are fickle, I see the way you guys talk about Lowrie when he was hot early in the season, or the way you guys act whenever a call-up is successful. You act like he's the answer. To me, they're the answer after a substantial sample size where they're proven to be successful, not after a month or two of tearing it up. I apologize if that's being too rational for you.

That doesn't apply to my argument, this board treats him like he's a .850 OPS hitter, they disregard the fact that he's been mediocre every season except for two months out of this season. No one here out of me, a700, or SCM is saying he's a below average hitting catcher, we're saying he's not the answer, .720 OPS is not going to cut it with mediocre defense. Overall as a player, he's not very good, and his offense has only been a plus for this season, which is inflated by two hot months and a SLG% that is 50 points higher than his career average. I'm not really as "he's junk" as a700 and SCM, all I'm saying is that this board praises him for the accomplishments of a couple successful months. Give it two seasons and a proper sample size before you say he's "elite" and all of this BS.

LOL, you, along with most of this forum, are judging his last two months as if it's all that matters. I'll say this again, similar stats with a massively inflated SLG% is the classic signs of a fluke. You people actually think that the last two months compare to the rest of the sample size, which suggests I'm right, and you're wrong. He's not very good, he's average, mediocre, whatever you want to call it, but he's not an elite offensive catcher yet. Maybe if he produces this way for two years, get back to me.