italstallianion

Then perhaps hate is too strong of a word. But he really annoys the f*** out of me, he needs to disappear for a long time, and I hope the Heat lose every game of the season. For the record, I don't hate him like I hate certain people in my life (none of which are here for the record)

I actually find it surprising that a lot of you don't hate LeBron. Well, I knew that Suns would hate LeBron forever, but I'm just as surprised that many of you don't hate LeBron as many of you are surprised that I do hate him.

For the record, while Suns and I both hate LeBron, I want to make it clear that I do not think he's a quitter, and he certainly does not owe me anything. (If anything, I owe him for getting swept by the Spurs in the 2007 NBA Championship Series)

This might be the only correct thing you've said all day. You should bask in that for a while. You're right, Suns can't make me look stupid, and frankly, neither can you. The only person here that can make me look stupid is myself. (And Dipre, Example, A700, and ORS when it comes to a statistical baseball argument, and since I know better than that, that's why you don't see me EVER take them on in such a battle. I choose my battles wisely and I only bother getting involved in arguments I know I can win.)

It depends on the kind of LeBron hate in my opinion. I think that hating on him as a basketball player is retarded, and neither Keeper or myself are saying that LeBron is a bad basketball player, or that he isn't one of the best players in the game right now. However I think that hating on him as a person, or at least as a media representation of a person based on his actions, is very justified. Obviously I haven't met LeBron so there can be an element of doubt when comparing his represented personality in the media vs. what it's like to know him in person, but that fault aside, one can easily hate the LeBron we see in the media, and I'd certainly see it as justifiable to want him to go to a remote island with every other attention whore that's received too much air time. Come back in a few months when the playoffs start LeBron. I might be willing to hear about you then.

At least you're consistent Suns. You'll always have that.

I figured I'd end up waiting a long time if I waited for you to come up to my level, so I figured that I'd respond by going down to your level.

Since you can't read between the lines, I'll spell it out for you. 1. I said I didn't like LeBron 2. You followed with comparing him (poorly) to Shaq and Arenas in terms of saying stupid and annoying things. 3. I discredited your comparison by saying that LeBron is way more annoying and media dominant than Shaq and Arenas. 4. You somehow wondered what most of my post had to do with anything. When in fact, it had everything to do with everything because it all factored into why I hated LeBron, the very thing you keep failing to understand and then questioning me (and Keeper) on. Geez, it's like talking to f***** Suns sometimes...

First of all, Shaq and Arenas don't dominate the media nearly as much as LeBron does. LeBron has become like Brett Favre recently. In addition, Shaq and Arenas didn't see themselves as so important that they had a 1 hour TV show just to announce where he was going. I wasn't a fan of him before, but that is an ultimate d*** move. Kobe is a rapist and I respect him a lot more than LeBron because Kobe knows how to act like he's been there before. I hate LeBron for the same reason I hate other soft media hungry attention whores.

I don't know about that, while Keeper does normally maintain an unnecessarily nasty tone, I think he has a point. LeBron is softer than Rex Ryan. Unless he had a bone sticking out of his leg or a gangrenous infection, he should have been on the court when his team needed him. Besides, I'm a Spurs fan (with no connection to LeBron other than sweeping him in the 2007 finals) and I hate LeBron. He needs to get backhanded with Kobe's ring hand.

It is, but hardly enough players were online at the time, so unless EVERYONE said something, then the trades probably weren't getting vetoed. I thought that a lot of the deals were lopsided, but it wasn't like there was cheating, there was just one team taking advantage over another. I think that every trade had a winner and a loser, and in all fairness, I thought that some of the trades were going to be countered with further roster moves that did not occur.

Plus, I want this to be decided by the drafting and "GM" skills of the players, rather than the luck of the draw injuries. That's why I was hesitant to add trading because a player could put together the "best team" without actually drafting the best team. Some teams have clearly taken advantage of others in trades and put themselves at an advantage over other teams, even if their draft itself wasn't that good. I'd hate to have something like the incompetence of another poster via trade be what decides something like this.

I'd argue to replace a player only if it's a 60 day DL. Or an otherwise clear season ending injury (since sometimes teams keep players on the 15-day DL even if they will be gone for the rest of the season)

This is where Dipre and I got into an argument before this started. I personally felt that we should keep the rosters as is, considering injuries occur and you know there'd be controversy over determining what is a serious injury and what isn't, in addition, the affected teams would end up replacing a good to decent player with a player who wasn't even drafted. The way I see it, teams shouldn't be punished if they drafted a player while healthy, and if the injury occured after they were drafted. Dipre felt otherwise, that we should still punish those teams. That was why we originally said to draft 40 man rosters, which would pretty much protect each team from injuries, although we'd have to change the salary cap, reopen this draft, and I think it would be even harder to judge the teams. I'm sure that Dipre will give his 2 cents on the issue. I just think that there has to be a time where we close off the rosters, because there could be some players that surprise people next year, and it wouldn't be fair if we open up free agency to select teams to draft those players. In addition, an idea by Keeper was that we should open up free agency before the season starts, in case some injuries occur during spring training, or if some roles switch during spring training (relievers becoming starters or vice versa). So I think that's a good idea and we should allow free agency before the season begins. I think that once the regular season begins that the rosters should be locked.

It had been so long that I almost forgot how to update the chart.

I doubt that he does, unless someone messages him and forces him to make his damn picks.

I don't care where he goes, I just wish that he wasn't on Denver when we played the Nuggets tomorrow. As long as he goes to the East.

I just wish that Carmelo was traded before the game. Cmon and get it over with already.

You might want to save some of those points for our game tomorrow RSFFL.

In all fairness we have until the beginning of the season to get this done, so I'm not worried. Worst case scenario, I'll make his picks. And I'm sure that if we had to guess someone that would take forever to make his picks, that we'd all guess that it would be Flynnatic.

That's not really fair though, since everyone that's more arrogant than Dipre has already been banned.

Besides, I'm not too sure that the Yankees would know what to do with a 1st round pick anyway, as more often than not they've been without one.