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I'd rather lose the guys we did than a 2nd and 3rd rounder. Also, I don't believe we were "banned" from international signings, just that we could not sign guys subject to bonus pools. You could also say that the Cardinals guy was a rogue employee whereas the Sox was an organizational decision.

Thanks Ben!

How could it possibly be an "off year" when he had career highs for HR, R, RBI, WAR, SB, etc.?

I thought this board hated truck day? I believe Kimmi and I were the only ones excited for it last year.

Dry heaves...

My favorite name growing up: http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/m/mcdowod01.shtml

It's the "always" that will do him in. I think he'll be a good SS for his career, but will never meet the ungodly high expectations that were heaped on him.

That's probably overstating it a little. This "if" is more likely the size of real Maine (aka Kittery through Ogunquit).

I worry about the pen game to game not year to year. If Hembree or Kelly flamed out of the league in the next 2 years, I don't think it would be all that surprising.

It was right after an ownership change and they wanted to trot Magic out there and show LA how they were going to be better than the McCourt years. At the end of the day, it really hasn't changed that much (at least results wise).

I'm completely SHOCKED that they basically met in the middle!

Price pitched in the World Series. Joe Kelly pitched in the World Series. Rick Porcello pitched in the World Series. Pablo Sandoval has played in multiple World Series and won the series mvp. Mitch Moreland has played in 2 World Series.

Get the f*** outta there...

It's there, it's called "other."

I know a lot of people are pretty excited for what 2017 has in store, but are there any dark clouds looming?

That's way too much for Ross, imo.

Lou Gorman was a REAL baseball man, not like these namby pambies these days.

JBJ will add his name to the below list: NUMBER 19 Howie Storie 1931 Milt Gaston 1931 Wilcy Moore 1932 Gordon Rhodes 1932 Bob Weiland 1933 Fritz Ostermueller 1934 Moe Berg 1935 Emerson Dickman 1936 Joe Cascarella 1936 Fabian Gaffke 1937 Joe Gonzales 1937 Bill Humphrey 1938 Joe Heving 1938-40 Mickey Harris 1941 Andy Karl 1943 Joe Dobson 1943 Ford Garrison 1944 Hal Wagner 1944 Nick Polly 1945 Randy Heflin 1945 Mickey Harris 1946-49 Maurice McDermott 1949-53 Leo Kiely 1954-56 Bob Porterfield 1957-58 Jerry Casale 1958-60 Tom Borland 1961 Lu Clinton 1961 Dave Philley 1962 Merlin Nippert 1962 Wilbur Wood 1963-64 Jay Ritchie 1964-65 Dan Osinski 1965 Gary Waslewski 1967-68 Syd O'Brien 1969 Don Pavletich 1970-71 Ken Tatum 1972-73 Fred Lynn 1974-80 Bob Ojeda 1981-85 Jeff Sellers 1986-88 Dana Williams 1989 Jeff Stone 1989 Dana Kiecker 1990-91 Steve Lyons 1992 Jose Melendez 1993-94 Mike Maddux 1995-96 Brian Rose 1997-2000 Rolando Arrojo 2000 Dante Bichette 2000-01 John Burkett 2002-03 Gabe Kapler 2004 John Olerud 2005 Josh Beckett 2006-12 Koji Uehara 2013-16

Well, that's what Farrell has hinted at for most of the offseason.

His WAR is helped by how much he eats innings.

I don't like that idea either!

I think he'll be better than he was last year, but I don't expect him to be anything more than a #2. Come playoffs? Who knows?

He took a huge step backwards last year. I'm not surprised he's not the #1 guy.

That's a ridiculous idea.

Until Schill puts down the meth, he's not getting in. That guy is a mess right now. Edgar only has 2 more shots at getting in. I'm not sure if he'll get there as he needs almost 100 more votes to get in. He deserves to be in though. My ballot would have been: Ivan Rodriguez Tim Raines Jeff Bagwell Edgar Martinez Barry Bonds Roger Clemens Manny Ramirez Mike Mussina Vlad Guerrero Curt Schilling