Dipre

Scutaro is looking for a 3-year, 18 million dollar contract. that means he's not looking for a 1-year deal, and why would he after the year he had. That makes no sense.

He didn't make the offer. Take the rose-colored glasses off.

Cabrera can also play 3B and LF, even if it's not adequately, positional flexibility does add to his value.

:lol::lol::lol:

Here's the issue. If a trade for Felix came up, i would send my mother as part of the prospect package. My issue is specifically with Halladay because of the logistics behind acquiring him. A) He is 32. B ) He is not cheap. C) He will require a monster extension. Under that scenario, he shouldn't be worth more than a decent package. Not an earth-shattering one.

Just for hilarity's sake, i'll mention that Nady played one game in the majors on his debut year.

You defined it in a subsequent post, but it wasn't defined in the initial one.

I'll take you on. Strasburg is going to have knee surgery, and isn't going to be ready come opening day. Now that is what i call nonsensical rambling.

Oh, so Dave Winfield, Prieto, Roberts , Clyde and Hooton don't get a mention? Oh, but they don't suit your argument, pity. You, my good sir, know nothing about player development. The simple fact that you think that a player whose coming from Cuba, has to make a cultural adjustment, and whose bat is an unknown quantity can make a big league club without a game of minor league experience shows this thoroughly. I think the pot meet kettle line would be better used for you and bsox. Facts: A) You have failed to establish a precedent for this happening because there is none. B ) Your basing your arguments on a lot of over-hyped players and and a completely different system. C) The fact that you're using a list of less than 30 players since the 60's when hundreds have reached the bigs since 2001 tells you about the powerful sample size you could conjure to back up your argument. Nice going, master of the sample size. D) If players don't "Need a developmental period", then how come no one has reached the Majors straight away since 2000? Why did players like Joe Mauer go through the system? If they had to, why wouldn't Iglesias, who's bat is a question mark, not have to go through it? Nonsensical ramblings is what i would say to the amount of stupidity you have shared with us through your last couple of posts.

That's why it's poorly worded. Think about it slowly.

I just lost like 700 brain cells reading your post. Every rule has its exception. That little list you compiled IS the exception, and most of those players didn't go on to have the career that was expected of them, SPECIALLY PRIETO. The examples the person i was talking about used was elite talent that has "HOF" material written all over them, i asked for that in baseball since the draft began, and you have not provided me with it. You've provided me with a list of people who had "First-ballot HOF" tags on them and didn't live up to the hype, PROBABLY BECAUSE THEY WERE RUSHED TO THE MAJORS, that is why TEAMS DON'T DO IT ANYMORE. The only thing i'm doing wrong is arguing with you. You and bsox are the only people delusional enough to think Jose Iglesias is going to be the Sox starting SS in 2010. My argument hasn't changed. Here are the facts: Major League players who have made the jump directly to The Show: Less than 1%. Of those players, did many of them fulfill their potential: No. Was being rushed to the Majors the reason they were busts: Most likely, yes. Did they have the "Can't miss tag?": Yes. Does Iglesias have it: No. He is an unknown quantity offensively. Everything else is fabrication and useless argumentation. Dipre.

Gom, there is merit to your argument, no one is denying that. However, how you can't see the value of player development is beyond me. The core of this team has come up from the farm system. Prospects are not only ways for FO's to save money, but they're also important assets who help strengthen teams via trade for established talent, but when that established talent is about to leave its prime, overpaying for it is never a good idea. You, as a Yankee fan, should know this.

None of them after 2000, and none of them has started his life or his career in Cuba. You catching my drift? You really think Iglesias could make both the cultural and playing level jump to play in the Majors in 2010? That is laughable. Oh, and Prieto was an absolute, total bust.

How about you throw Teddy Ballgame, Pedro Guerrero and Lou Brock in there just for shits and giggles?

Relevant to the current Minor League system. Find me one born after 1960.

Elite players are scarce at any position, that changes the complexion of your post entirely. "Very high" and "Elite" are very much apart, so the one who worded it poorly in the first place was you. And you're shooting yourself in the foot by putting Tulo in your "elite" list, he had a good '07, a near lost '08 due to injuries, and a monster '09, that's two good years, just like Escobar and Cabrera. Also, you need to include Rollins in the list, his 2009 was a fluke if i ever saw one.

One out of the tens of thousands of MLB players, and not only that, from the mid-80's. Where's the relevance in your example?

It's annoying when someone not only doesn't take the time to check the stats, but discounts an entire body of work because of one year. Rollins has a never been a big OBP kinda guy, but he's made up for it with stellar defense, and above-average power for a SS while maintaining a strong batting average to make up for his OBP shortcomings. Last year, he had a .253 BABIP, that's so low it's nearly impossible to sustain. Also your entire premise that only 3 SS produce "year in and year out" is outrageous, as has been shown in the rest of the thread.

Stephen Drew has tons of upside.

What about some of the younger guys like Erick Aybar , and what about Jose Reyes?

Today.

*Sigh*. The only one who has talked about star caliber is you. Everyone else is talking about "Turning the corner" or "Solid Performance" When you spoke of "Star Caliber" regarding Buch, it was in an argument advocating for him to be traded for Halladay, essentially meaning you just shot yourself in the foot.