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Jim Bowden says that NY should deal Joba, Kennedy, and Gardner for Halladay. Assuming we could lock him up, I would do that, although I dont think it will be enough for Toronto. I would not deal Hughes since I think he is better suited for starting long term and I think he will be dynamite. But in no way, shape, or form would I deal Joba or Hughes with Montero. That's stupid. Give them one top notch pitching stud and then some other parts. But they dont get a combo of two all world prospects

Everyone says you need defense up the middle. C-SS-2B-CF. You need to have most of those positions solidified. The fact that the sox have gotten by with a terrible SS is more of an exception rather than the rule.

Well, the AFL just ended, and ORS decided to rag on me for not starting this thread, so here it is Austin Romine played only 4 games before injuring a finger and being lost for the fall. He went 6 for 15 for a .400BA. Colin Curtis was one of the best players in the league. He played 20 games and put up a line of .397/.472/.730 with 5 homers, 7 doubles and 2 triples. He looked really, really good and will be eligible for the Rule V this season Brandon Laird was also very solid for the Rafters. His line was .333/.406/.633 with 6 homers and 9 doubles in 22 games. His 24RBI led the team Ian Kennedy led the team in IP with 29.2IP. His ERA was good for this league at 4.25 and he had a very respectable 1.18WHIP. He also struck out 28 in 29.2IP. Zach Kroenke also had a respectable WHIP as a lefty reliever at 1.28. His ERA was high (5.28), but he did strike out 14 in 15.1IP. He will also be available in the Rule V Michael Dunn had an interesting AFL. He is on the yankees 40 man roster and he was one of the more enigmatic pitchers in the league. He struck out 20 in 10.1IP. But he also walked 10 and allowed 11 hits. His ERA of 4.35 was respectable, but the walks need work for him to carve out a future in NY Grant Duff had an enigmatic AFL as well. Showcasing a plus FB, although not as plus as he finished the yr with, he should have had more power. His ERA of 2.89 and WHIP of 1.29 were pretty good, but the 4K's in 9.1IP was pretty disappointing. Then again, SSS. Duff will be eligible for the Rule V as well

moron, as per usual

The Blue Jays like Phil Hughes and Jesus Montero? No, really? DO NOT MAKE THAT DEAL. Sign Lackey and end this whole discussion

This is a guarantee that Scutaro comes to Boston. He'll get a 2 yr deal with a vesting option for something totalling 18mil. I agreed with the masses that Gonzalez was the best option for Boston. Here's the deal guys. AGon solidified the position by playing good D. He was healthy and he solidified one side of the ball. Scutaro is an average SS entering the end of his career and he might end up an above avg, avg, or below avg offensive player for him time in Boston. You will be okay if you have a SS who plays good enough D and can play day after day. Boston had trouble when Lugo was kicking the ball, Lowrie was hurt, and Green fell off a cliff. You have to have some stability up the middle. Scutaro may offer that in spades or he may be another Theo SS bust.

http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/10357594 Looks like the Yankees are in on the bidding for Nick Johnson. They see him as a fall-back option should Matsui and Damon both leave. Hell, I love this guy as an option for the lineup, but his lack of versatility means that he'll occupy the DH position. If you put a .420OBP guy into the 2 hole in the lineup in front of ARod, Tex, and Posada, they you are talking about a LOT of runs scoring.

We'll see on Holliday. My guess is that Boras holds out as long as he can, probably into early to mid January before he gets the right offer. He really is a genius negotiator. He knows that teams initially stay fiscally responsible, but as a team's offseason plan goes in the shitter, they get more desperate and are finally willing to come close to asking price for his prime FA. I have a feeling Holliday lands with a team that none of us are thinking about here. A team that may clear some payroll in the early part of the trading season only to use that space up on Holliday. Watch the Tigers land him, that'd be funny.

I am not plagiarizing. I do take a lot of the intiricacies in velocity and what types of pitches they throw from pinstripesplus and a smattering from BA and BP.

If the Mets dont land Holliday then I think Bay is gone. I have said all along that someone will go a 5th yr on Bay. If not Boston, then someone. I do think that Theo will go that extra yr, eventually. But when you throw Minaya into the ring with a fistful of cash and a skull full of air, then anything can happen.

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31. Bradley Suttle, 3B, 23yrs old- no line for 2009. Suttle is a wild-card. He was a highly touted pick out of the 2007 draft, even considered the best pure hitter in the draft by Peter Gammons. But injuries have slowed him. Leg issues slowed his first full yr in the minors, then a labrum injury ended his 2008 season. He had surgery, but as a type I diabetic, he was prone to complications. He developed an infection that caused the wound to not heal appropriately and essentially knocked him out for 2009. He figures to be ready to go come 2010. Strengths- Has good power to all fields, has a good glove and switch hits Weaknesses- Labrum surgery and its complications will likely limit him to 1B duties for the forseeable future. Also, losing a yr of development for someone his age is not good. Ceiling- He had a very high offensive ceiling prior to his injury, but now, we'll have to see what kind of player he is post-surgery Projection- Very difficult to say due to injury ETA- He will likely be the 1b in Tampa for 2010 and go from there. 32. George Kontos, RHP, 24 yrs old- 2009 line- AA/AAA- 4-5, 3.15ERA, 71.1IP, 1.30WHIP, 8.0K/9IP, 2.1K/BB. Kontos had an up and down yr. He started the yr with an inexplicable drop in velocity. This caused him to improve his secondary stuff significantly. The changeup actually got to league average and his dynamite slider was locating even better. After having a good amount of success, a reason was found for his velocity drop. Forearm stiffness eventually revealed a UCL tear and he underwent TJS. The good thing is that he really made strides becoming a pitcher and if he recovers his mid 90s velocity, he can become a really nice piece. The problem is, he wont be pitching in 2010 in all likelihood Strengths- When he is right, he throws a mid 90s heater, a low 90s 2 seamer, a plus slider and now has developed the change to being "average" Weaknesses- He will miss all of 2010 which might undo the good that 2009 did for his secondary stuff and location. Also, he'll turn 26 in 2011, which is likely to be his first time back in games post surgery Ceiling- With a mid 90s heater and a solid slider, he profiled as a reliever from the get-go, and a good one at that. But with the addition of the change, he started looking like he could be a good mid range starter Projection- after major elbow surgery, projection goes out the window ETA- he'll probably start in Tampa in 2011 and work his way back to SWB or even the bigs. If he's a reliever, then expect to see him in the majors in some capacity in 2011, assuming he recovers from surgery 33. Brett Marshall, RHP, 19yrs old- A line- 3-6, 5.56ERA, 87.1IP, 1.54WHIP, 6.2K/9IP, 1.62K/BB. Marshall was the pitcher from the 2008 draft with the highest upside. Mid 90s heater as an 18 yr old and a really nice looking slider/change combo. Well, 2009 was a mixed bag for him. He showed very solid velocity through innings 1-4. The problem was, his off-speed offerings were hit or miss and thus, he was hit hard at times. He had trouble sustaining his velocity past the 4th inning, which led to a lot of ugly lines as well. Regardless, he had shown progress until his last start in July when he ripped his UCL and required TJS. He will miss all of 2010 Strengths- Very young pitcher with a plus fastball and plus potential change and slider Weaknesses- Many unfortunately. Now, he needs to recover from Tommy John. Also, he will probably not shed the short frame stigma either, since he's 6 feet tall. And, his off-speed stuff continued to be a problem as well as maintaining velocity Ceiling- 96mph fastballs in 19 yr old with plus potential offspeed offerings make him a top of the rotation candidate. Recent TJS and control issues leave a large gap between current and ceiling ETA- He will likely be in Tampa for 2011. 34. Damon Sublett, CF/2B, 23yrs old- A+ line- .270/.376/.416. Sublett was considered a top notch prospect in 2008, but an ankle injury limited his season and washed out a lot of his value. He started 2009 off slowly and his fielding woes led to a lot of offensive carryover. So, seeing as 2b is a pretty deep position, they moved him to CF. And he responded with an .857OPS as well as 8 SBs. He plays a passable D right now, but he has the instincts and the speed to lock down the position in the future as he gets more comfortable with it. He also has the eye and the contact skills to really project well for him Strengths- Advanced approach, good speed, a good arm, and above average contact skills. Weaknesses- The move to the OF drops his stock a bit and his power is gap power right now, which limits his value at his new position. He also seems to be injury prone, with lower body injuries for 2 yrs straight Ceiling- He reminds me a lot of Mark Kotsay, above average contact skills in his prime, average or so power, above average speed and an accurate arm. Projection- The position switch makes me think he projects as nothing more than a backup in the majors ETA- He'll be in Trenton in 2010 and might be in NY by 2012. 35. Adam Warren, RHP, 22yrs old- SI line- 4-2 1.43ERA, 56.2IP, 1.04WHIP, 7.9K/9IP, 5.0K/BB. Adam Warren is an intriguing college draftee from 2009. He was drafted in the 4th round because he had a deep arsenal and a lot of polish. But a funny thing happened on his way to Staten Island. His velocity picked up. Now, topping out in the 96mph range, he has put himself into a legitimate prospect status conversation rather than filler talk. He also has 3 major league quality off-speed offerings in the slider, change and curve and great command of his arsenal. Strengths- Great command of a deep arsenal and a new found increase in velocity Weaknesses- He's a pretty solid pitcher, but his biggest weakness was power or lack there of. Now it will be a need to prove that his velocity bump wasnt a fluke. Ceiling- I have always through of Warren as a potential #5, but with his velocity, I'd say #3 pitcher is his ceiling Projection- Depends on the heater. If that heat stays 96mph, then I think he becomes a major league starter no question. If it doesnt, then he's a fringe guy ETA- There is talk that Warren skips Charleston altogether. Regardless, he will definitely see High A in 2010 and might even make it to AA. He should be a fast mover

You are both saying the same f***ing thing. Lets get back to the hot stove

stop progessing an argument, look at the above!

this all could have been avoided if you said the following.... "Jed Lowrie right now is atop the organizational depth chart for SS, so, if the season started today, he'd be the starting SS. But there is a strong likelihood that Theo will be signing a SS in the near future so Lowrie can stay in AAA"

someone will be added. Iglesias is probably headed for A+ ball. And, although his glove may be advanced, his bat is not. The hope is that you develop his bat to be average so that he's worth well above average when combined with his D. If you started him in the bigs right now, he's probably hit below .200. They call it development for a reason.

when you trade for someone, though, you dont have the luxury of offering them an incentive type deal, which Lowell should get. Plus, I think people are deceiving themselves if they think he is going to go from statue to anything but a statue in the field.

Damon keeps touting his ability to stay on the field, but there were plenty of warning signs. The speed is gone. Yeah, he stole that base in Philly that turned out to be big, but it caught the Phils by surprise. In the past, Damon running was a surprise to no one. He stole 12 bases this yr, which was a career low and he lost 2 or 3 steps in the OF. Plus, those creaky calves kept acting up. Thing is, on the open market with his home and road splits, I dont see anyone willing to invest more than $5mil a yr in him. Cause outside of Yankee stadium, he's a slap hitter with minimal power and declining speed. He still has a good eye and can provide good leadership for a team like KC, but he isnt a cog in the wheel of a championship team outside of the Bronx, seeing as he tailored his swing to the new stadium. I bet Cash could stick to his guns on him at 2 yrs and 16mil and get him. I dont see anyone outbidding that.

I think this should show people a good barometer of Mike Lowell's worth. He had a .713OPS outside of Fenway last season and didnt play 120 games for a second yr in a row. He is not worth even half the money he is paid. Also, the rumor I have seen now thrice is that the sox will be heavily pursuing Adrian Beltre should Adrian Gonzalez not be a feasible option

Johnson will cost something similar CD. He's still under control for another 2 seasons and the Marlins know how to scout. If you spare Buchholz from the deal, then you will gut the top of your farm

Josh Johnson isnt getting dealt this offseason. He under control for 2 more teams and Florida has a small window to actually do something

You expect more offense out of certain positions. At 1b, his OPS is league average. At catcher, his OPS is top 5. Thats the point here.

Draft Eligible Sophomore. Meaning they passed on their last 2 seasons of college ball.

Those stupid little jabs are the reason why you incite so much garbage on this site. Keep that in mind In terms of Martinez, it depends on what kind of value you are talking about. As a 1b, he becomes pedestrian, middle of the pack. His worth plummets. He doesn't lose all his value. But he loses enough to make him much less desireable and much less useful. He would actually make the sox 1b position worse than it was the prior yr. This is what people are talking about.