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If it is a lie or gross exaggeration, the Red Sox could plant a story refuting Boras statement by simply making a phone call. I have more regard for the Red Sox FO than to think they would throw out sound business judgment to bow to the court of public opinion.

Drew was still under contract, and my recollection is that the Sox (in the Abreu negotiation) also had not made their final offer when they walked away from the table. That's just a bad way to negotiate when your chief rival has the same need as you.

That offer was made by the Red Sox. So, it wasn't the money? Make up your mind. Was it the money or wasn't it? If it wasn't the money, I am leaning more towards it being a really bad sales job by the FO.

Wow, the FO must really be stupid if Boras has to keep reminding them of how he screwed them over. If they are that stupid, no amount of leverage would work.

Nonresponsive.

No one has yet stated how a lie known to the FO could help Boras with regard to negotiating with Boston.

How could deliberately tweaking your negotiating opponent about a past back-stabbing help him in future negotiations. Whether or not he is a necessary evil, that would just be bad business. Boras is not someone who regularly shoots himself in the foot.

Both Boras and the FO know what that offer was and whether or not it was made in good faith. If the offer was outlandish, why bring it up and rub John Henry's face in it at this time of year. How would that benefit him?

To argue otherwise is just sour grapes. I will not engage in it. I hate the Yankees down deep in my bones, but they got it done this season. They were clearly the better team, and there was nothing illegitimate about it.

I'm not asking you to agree with me. We have both stated our opinions and neither one of us knows what occurred during the negotiations, so neither of us can claim that our opinion is correct. Was any reliable FO personnel quoted? If not, neither of us knows what either side asked for or offered. If the Red Sox were willing to offer more than $20m AAV, then they should have made that offer before they left the room. If they were willing to offer more but didn't, it makes me more inclined to think that they botched things. When you have exclusive access, you don't give that up and walk away when you have not made your final offer. You can't depend on scum like Boras to get back to you if the guy gets another offer. He got another offer, and the Sox were never asked to counter. The Yankees closed. I don't care about it, because it's not my business, but I understand it and can debate it. I have not argued in this thread that they should have blown away the market to get Tex, so I don't know why you arguing about value. Neither of us knows what was offered or proposed, so how can you analyze value here? You are way off topic with the value argument. I never said that. They wanted and needed Abreu at the time, otherwise why were they pursuing him. They left the table and the Yankees landed a pretty good player and the Sox had trash in RF for the remainder of the 2006 season. They made up for that mistake with $70 million and Drew. That doesn't mean that they didn't blow the Abreu negotiation. Subsequent successes don't erase past failures. Hopefully, their successes are in part due to learning from past mistakes.

People have a knee-jerk reaction to Boras- that he is a scum-sucking liar who cannot be trusted. If I were sitting on the opposite end the table negotiating with him, I wouldn't trust a word out of his mouth. But here's the thing with his latest statement, the Red Sox FO knows if it is a lie or not, because they were there. Now, although Boras is scum, he's not an idiot. The Red Sox are one of the top organizations in sports and we have signed many of his clients. Don't you think he wants the Red Sox to keep bidding on and signing his clients? What would he have to gain by telling such a lie? Nothing. He'd just be pissing off a big fish. Would that make any sense at all?

We are in the realm of opinion. There is no conclusive evidence for either position. My opinion is no more valid than the opposing view, but some posters seek to invalidate the opinions of other without any proof for their own opinion. All along, I have stated that this is my opinion and nothing more.

I don't think there is any reason not to believe that Boras did not make a proposal to the Red Sox. If John Henry refutes Boras' remark then I would believe him over the scumdog agent. From everything I have read, it seemed to me that the owners made an offer and tex made a counter-proposal. Neither of us know the specifics of either offer. Boras is not making them public, but neither has the FO. In business, when you are negotiating any deal, exclusive access means a lot. The FO had exclusive access, and IMO if they were good sales people they would have closed the deal. I have spent almost 25 years dealing with life insurance sales people. Life insurance is well known for being a product that is sold and not bought. Almost no one gets up in the morning and says, "I think I'll buy some life insurance." I've observed life insurance sales techniques, and if they can sell life insurance they can sell anything. There are times when we can blame the Yankees for blowing away the market, and that has happened, but in this case, the prevailing opinion is that the Yankees did not blow away the market. The prevailing opinion is that Tex just wanted to play for the Yankees. That's a cop out. I'll acknowledge that the Sox can't win a bidding war with the Yankees, but they should be able to compete when selling the Sox to a player. We can excuse being outbid, but people also seem to excuse them when $ isn't the issue. Abreu was and is a pretty good player. He has a high OBP and generates a lot of runs. He is an excellent base runner who steals a lot of bases. He also seems to be able to hit the monster at will. The Red Sox FO did make a lot of good moves after 2006, but that doesn't mean that the Yankees didn't eat their lunch in 2006. Abreu was the Yankee's number 3 hitter that season. The Sox could have used him in 2006. Subsequent success does not convert a bad move into a good move. FO's make good and bad moves. The bad moves are not part of some grand scheme to get to the good moves. The bad moves stand on their own.

I prefer the posts of yours where you demonstrate your idiocy in a more succinct manner.

Neither would I. If we needed a DH, I'd consider him, but not to play the OF.

This is it? You would have been better off screaming into your pillow. What experience would you have in negotiations? You can't even convince people in the college administration office that you go to the school. Go grow up little boy before you try to teach me about anything.

Good comeback. Based on that logic, since no one on this forum works for a major league FO, none of the opinions stated on this site would have any validity. I guess we should just shut down the site. You need to do better than that.:thumbdown. If you want to take a swipe at me, make an attempt that is not laughable, otherwise just take out your frustration at me by screaming into your pillow. Now, why don't you go study for accounting course so you can support yourself some day.

This was Jeter's best fielding seasons in the last 5 years. He got to many more balls up the middle than he has in past seasons. I don't know if it was better positioning or the agility drill that he did in the off season, but the improvement was noticeable. I hope the prick starts to show his age next season.