a700hitter
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Show some figures to support the claim that the Nats are a big market. Please. I have put out a bunch of data that indicates otherwise. Where's are the figures proving the cases. I guess ORS went back to playing video games. He presented absolutely nothing except population figures and mysterious unpublished unreported information about MASN.
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Teams have moved from major population centers before. The Dodgers and the Giants moved from NY when NY's population was 8 million and the population of Brooklyn was 3 million. While their population didn't shrink, their market shrunk for a number of demographic reasons, not the least of which was that families with disposable income were migrating to the suburbs. They were both successful competitive teams chock full of exciting stars, but they lost their market. Population size doesn't directly correlate to market size.
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The Forbes Report did take into account the other ventures of the ownership groups. Here' what it said about the Red Sox: Here's what it says about the Yankees: Here's what it says about theNats: There's no mention about the Nat's Network. The report does show that the Nats were #27 out of 30 in ratings. Nothing supports your claim that they are a big market team. I have produced numerous figures and measures. All you counter with is "network, network, network". Where are the figures, figures, figures? Forbes mentions NESN and YES, but where is the mention of the Nats network? Did they just miss it?
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None of the values back up the notion of the Nats as a Big Market team. All of the reported values reflect that they are not a Big Market team. Add to that the fact that they are 14th out of 16 in league attendance ahead of only the Pirates and the Marlins, and it is obvious that their market footprint is not close to the big market teams. Should they be a big market team? I don't know the answer to that. Their is a dense population (almost 6 million), but Nats have not been able to tap into that. They are making moves and building an exciting team to try to build a following. Will it happen? Maybe. As I said earlier, it helps them that the O's suck balls. As of now, they are not a Big Market team. There is nothing to support that they are. A big population doesn't always translate to a big market for a team.
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The amount attributable to the Nats market is $163 million. The lowest market amount for the top ten teams is 138% of that for the Nats. The Sox figure is almost 2 1/2 times that size and the Yanks is 5 times larger. From the Nats on down those figures are fairly compressed (bunched together) as is the portion of their value attributable to their brand management. They are way closer to being a small market team than a big market. They are far from the big market franchises at this point in time.
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No, he has been proved to be right that the Nats are not a Big Market team.
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The guy is a horse a security blanket for the team-- a bullpen saver. It drives me crazy that the Sox Big 3 get gassed by the 6th inning and 100 pitches.
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Red Sox 2012 fearless prediction thread
a700hitter replied to RedSoxfanforlife305's topic in Boston Red Sox Talk
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I didn't attempt to hand it back to you, enjoy wearing it.
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I did go off on a tangent, but it's not irrelevant. It illustrates that baseball likes the current configuration of a limited number of big market teams with a lot of small fish where the Big Market teams can continue to use their advantages. It's pretty accurate. The big teams put money in everyone's pocket with the licensing fees and revenue sharing etc. It is working perfectly well for them.
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If by getting it right you meant that you have proved that you are compulsive. Check to that.
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Yes and the big market teams bring in the great majority of this revenue and it gets shared evenly with everyone else. They are benefiting from the big market teams. The Nats had their beast season in 2011 and had a lot of good exciting players and they finished 14th out of 16 in attendance followed only by the Pirates and the Marlins-- two other big market teams.
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Oh, you are taking the D portion of the OCD much too seriously. In common parlance people don't use it in a diagnostic way, just as calling someone an ******* doesn't mean that they are that part of the human anatomy.
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I never accused you of being irrational just quirky. Boy, for someone with the Military in their Avatar and a rifle mentioned in his custom user title, you are very sensitive. I don't know why you take everything as a personal insult. What next, you'll accuse me of insulting you with my silence?
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This being in the wrong forum was bothersome to you, but you are not in the least OCD. Okay. A mod should probably move the thread, but I guess it didn't bother them.
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