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Farrell has forgotten a lot of things this season. He is managing most of the time with his head stuck in his rectum. How many friggin' times are we going to see Miller and Mujica in there late in the game and keep losing those contests. When is going to wake the hell up?

Pal---you answered your question yourself. They have lost a ton of 1-run games, have hit poorly with RISP and they have the irritating ability to come back from a deficit to tie the game but not get the lead and eventually get s*** on in extra innings. That is the sign of a s***** team and right now we are a s***** team. BTW, was it you or 700 Hitter who I g ot into a conversation with before the season and hinted that as bad as the Blue Jays were last season they could come back and do what we did last year. I think it was you. That's the East Division of our league for you....riding high in April, shot down in May.

No Navafan, it should never have come down to Taz and Koji. Look at my first post on the first page of this thread......We cannot come back from a deficit to TIE. We have done that countless times this season only to lose in e xtra innings. We cannot afford to just tie---we need to take a lead, get ahead, have at least one more f***ing run than the other team has. Then maybe the game doesn't do into extra innings and have that piece of crud Mujica give the game away. And give the Cardinals credit. They always seem to know when to get rid of someone and we seem to have the curse of picking these turds up when they are no longer effective. Sad to say, even you couldn't help us this time around because right now we stink again. BTW----0-3 with Drew on the roster.

Gee Jacko, it sounds just like my team. At least you can be confident that your GM will go out and trade for what you need. Ours will sit on his ass and talk about all our "great" prospects..........like Bradley and Hassan.

Eddie Roebuck, Roger Craig to finish off that list Carter. All pitchers who are left. I don't know about utility IF-OF Frank Kellert. He might still be around. That I don't know.

Actually Zimmer's first full season with Brooklyn was in 1955 and he didn't do badly at all. He played mostly second base that season as Jim Gilliam shuffled between second and left field. Don hit 15 homers that season and was a pretty good clutch hitter. He got injured in ST in '56 and didn't get into action until May and was hitting 300 when he got badly beaned by Hal Jeffcoat of the Cubs. So serious it was that he missed the rest of the season. RIP.

And when they come up Bradley must go down. He is terrible and I don't want to hear any s*** about sample sizes on him anymore. You take 2013, ST and up to now and he is under 200. He cannot hit and will not hit and he doesn't have the speed to steal bases and is a liability in the lineup. Also back up the truck and take Sizemore, Gomes and Mujica with them.

No let's not. We didn't help the karma any by so many people mouthing off before Monday's game as to how we were going to past Masterson and make mince meat out of the Guardians. Keep our God damn mouths shut and just think upbeat thoughts. The fact is we are in trouble again and likely to get swept out of Cleveland tonight unless Papi wakes up and when we tie the game we go on to get the lead. Tieing and the losing was a big feature of our play before we went on that seemingly long ago winning streak. Cautious optimism might help.

Good to have you back Ted. Some of our friends here have accepted that we are in a bad way unless we upgrade or these duds in the outfield start to hit, but there are still a few who living on the Yellow Brick Road. One thing is certain....we don't win s*** with the likes of Gomes, Bradley, Sizemore and Hassan in the outfield. And what the hell has happened to Nava? He has just disappeared.

Farrell doesn't have a man crush on Corey Brown. Besides Hassan is a local boy and those boys make good for us. Remember Delcarmen and Bailey? Oh, that's right, they sucked!!!!!

Nice spirit and confidence my friend but unless we get another starting pitcher or two who can win rather consistently and a couple of outfielders who can hit better than the likes of Gomes, Bradley, Sizemore and Nava, that isn't going to happen---no way in hell that happens.

No!!!!!!!! But will not be a decent Major League hitter. Swihart is the guy and 2015 or 2016 is when we get a hitting catcher who can field behind the plate. We need hitters!!!!!!! Nothing can be more obvious than that. I have followed this team for almost 14 years now and I have never seen a more inept hitting aggregation than this one.

He TOTALLY sucks!!!!!!! And those friends of ours who wrote glowingly about this being a local boy and all that.......shove it in their diddy bags. I remember that Manny Delcarmen was a "local" boy. I remember that our "great" closer Andrew(?) Bailey was a local boy---and now Hassan? The bum was hitting 217 when he was brought up. Did Cherington and Farrell actually think he could hit Major League pitching? Did they even think?

Stop that!!!!!!!!

Come on now, you said we would let the Drew thing rest for the time being......since I know you were joshing everyone. In a week or two we'll see how this insertion of Stephen into the lineup works out for us. It didn't tonight but he wasn't very much at fault. The guys we depend on didn't come through and that's that. I still think we will go hot and cold until mid-July. Itt is then that we will make a big move---if we are to make one.

At least some of our friends here know there is no such thing as a sure win and I hope we don't hear any of that anymore. Close but no cigar. All we can do is try to start a new winning streak tomorrow and hopefully we get Gomes out of the lineup if a right hander is pitching. He has always been weak against them but this season has been downright terrible and has even been leery of swinging at pitches and getting ringed up to boot. Hate losing those one run games. Tough nite.

Xander got his pitch and smoked it; I wished we could have struck before this and be ahead instead of one down. We have a few swings left so it's not over yet.

Please Pal, you guys are scaring the hell out of me with all these predictions of an easy victory tonight. I believe we can win but it won't be easy; it never seems that easy for us. To me every win is a battle. It would be swell if it went the way you say it will go.

"Perhaps Nava will get a hit." Navafan, you still da man. Bring us home safely tonight. As for Nava, maybe instead you could have said perhaps Drew will get a hit.

Bell, we're all in this together and whether some of us agree with each other or not the bottom line is for our team to be successful and that's what I want and that's what you want and that's what all of us want. The next month will tell us whether these moves were good or not, and in the meantime will someone slow down the Blue Jays so if we keep hot we can close the gap some more?

That's his method of operaton SFF---and how does he know he's right and we're wrong? Why the front office told him what they were doing and he drank the Kool Aid and nodded his approval. This is the same bird who insisted I stop talking about resigning Lester because negotiations for his new contract were ongoing when they had ceased just before the season, something I guess he missed in one of the stories coming out of the front office. Bogaerts should NOT be moved out of shortstop. He has improved there, he likes it there, he is now playing very well and the last thing we need is his being uprooted and moved aside to another position. Those who say it shouldn't effect him forget that baseball is almost as much a mental game as a physical one and only those who haven't either played or coached the game can blithely say that he won't be affected by such a move. There is a very good chance he will be effected and an even better chance that this change in the lineup will have a very deleterious effect on the team. Let's hope not SFF.

There has been a very impressive turnaround NB---a four game sweep of the Braves and a three game whitewash of the Tampas. We have a tough road trip coming up and to me what we need is for Pedroia to get healthy and get going with the bat and for Papi to do the same. As they go so often goes the team even though this past series might belie that. We know we were not as bad as we were during that ten game losing streak and I wonder if we are as good as we've shown the past seven games, four of which we came from behind to win.

We can all argue until the cows come home and no one's position will gain any traction until we see what Drew's inclusion in the lineup does for the team. If he performs well and the team keeps winning I can expect that those who think adding him to the lineup will thump their chests and tell us how wrong and off the charts those who think it will be negative. OTOH, those people had also better expect retorts in kind if his presence results in a downturn to the team, and if he fails to perform well they will certainly most hear it and loudly. For the record, I hope he succeeds and I can keep my tongue but I do not expect him to hit worth a damn and I believe there will be a negative result when all is said and done. Again, it looks more and more like his signing was a mistake because of what Holt has been doing and Cecchini in his first trial today succeeded in doing. We'll just have to wait and see. Bring on the Guardians.

If he did he was spot on IMHO. I thought the same thing myself and I read over-achiever all over Holt.

If Drew comes and start hacking the Drewites will be doing handstands, but, if as I suspect, he craps in his pants at the plate, it will have a serious ripple effect throughout the lineup. You saw Cecchini today. He made a nice scoop of a ball and turned into a rally killing double play. An inning before he got a double and an RBI. I don't give a hoot in hell what any Drew lover says, his presence in the lineup is going to set us back. He will not hit and we will keep a better hitter on the bench. As it is we have a couple of our key hitters struggling right now. We also have won seven straight with Holt leading off. The worse thing you can do to a suddenly hot team is pull the rug out from under them and mess around with your defense and batting order...... and that's what we'll doing starting tomorrow night. Let's keep our fingers crossed that it doesn't end in disastrous results. And NO, I don't hate Drew. I just believe strongly that we should not have signed him, that we don't need him, and that it will make us weaker, not stronger, and, most importantly, it will have negative long range repercussions for the team.