seabeachfred

Kilo, I warned you and a few others to stay away from this bandwagon s*** because that was one way to set me off. I am no bandwagon jumper as you would have known if you had run into me in Fort Myers. But, then again, you weren't there to see me, were you? Or you could have met up with me in Boston last week, but I didn't catch you there either, did I? Or you could have seen me being interviewed on Channels 4 and 7 and watched me on TV, but you weren't around there either. You might catch me in San Diego in June or Oakland, I believe in July, and we can swap loyalty stories, but you won't be there either. So stop with the ******** about bandwagons. If NESN and NBC sports figures consider me loyal and devoted enough to interview that means your bandwagon crap goes out the window with you. Byrnes? I have always liked the guy. He plays hard, gets his uniform dirty and is an overachiever. Since I coached baseball for 30 years I can appreciate intangibles certain players bring to the table since I look at those things as a coach would. Capice????? The guy I would really like is Nick Swisher of the A's but he is not available at this time and won't be for three years. How does he stand with you? Is that better??

I wonder if it is a mental thing when we face Chacin? He is a decent pitcher but nothing like a world beater and yet we fail time and again with him. I think he is now 6-0 with us lifetime. On the other hand, John Lackey of the Angels is one of the best pitchers in the American League with dynamite stuff and he has never beaten us. Go figure.

Take a look at Crisp's statistics this year. What more argument to I need than he hasn't come close to doing the job he was traded for? What was he hitting going into last night's game? 111 or so????? We let a great player like Johnny Damon walk to get a guy like this? That is not improvement to me. We trade a decent No. 4 or 5 starter who eats up innings for a guy two teams got rid of because he couldn't field his position and struck out by the gross. Those are facts and we made our team weaker for those moves. I'm also saying that if these two don't get their s*** together the Red Sox are going to feel it sooner or later. Besides, it was not them calling me out that got me pissed off. It was the nasty and classless way they did it.

Ray, no one doubts Wily Mo's power when he gets a hold on a ball. He can hit them as far as anyone. The problem is those strikeouts, men left on base, and his disastrous fielding reputation that we saw last season whenever he played a corner outfield position. That is why he is not a regular with us and why he lost that job with the Reds. This is his ninth year of pro ball and he still cannot track a fly ball and hit a breaking pitch. There has to be a reason that both the Yankees and the Reds traded him away. Yes, we were intrigued with his power as they were and we traded for him to take Nixon's place when Nixon left the team. Notice that didn't happen? The reasons are obvious. Now if we can continue to get hits and drive in some runs, fine. We could use all the offensive help we can get, but I am still of the mind that when all is said and done he has far more liabilities for us in the long term than assets.

Castigs, we would all do handstands if Wily Mo could show some real progress with hitting the breaking ball and fielding his position, but this is his ninth pro season and he still has trouble tracking a fly ball? What does that tell you? Now in CF he might be adequate but you and I know that when he plays a corner OF spot he has trouble galore. What we will have to do is mix and match Crisp and Pena and see which one can give us the most production without sacrificing any defense or OBP. As of now there will be no trade for a CF so we are stuck with those two. Hopefully one of them gets hot for us.

Jackson, sooner or later the Red Sox are going to have to start hitting more consistently. Manny still has not busted loose and it seems as though we have one breakout game and then back in the outhouse. We need about five or six guys to get hot at the same time.

You being an expert on judging my ability has to be most assinine thing I've heard this month. I've read enough of your posts to see you as a chronic imbecile, your head making a good hotel since there's always vacancy upstairs. Since you are a aficianado of messrs Crisp and Pena which I am not, I am going to be ready willing and able to remind you in language you gave me today when those two guys f*** up again as they will most certainly will. Tit for that from here on in.

The last time you told me to go f*** myself I let it pass, not this time you *******. f*** you double and the horse you rode in on. If you want to get personal with me from here on in I will respond in kind you prick. Yes, Pena hit a home run tonight and Crisp got two hits. If that is going to be a benchmark f or you to get personal with me you had better ready for the same if those two screw up again you ********. Better still, don't answer any more of my posts until you clean up your act.

You know you could have done what Kilo and Schill did and let me up easy but if you want to be an ******* about it fine. If they screw up again, remember if you're going to give me a ration of s*** I'm going to give you two. Just keep in mind if we go by their performances up to now your head has been up your ass a lot more than mine has been up mine. You showed no f***ing class with your post.

Schill, I said I had to stand down. Tonight I was way off the mark and am happy those two did a decent job with the bat. If the rest of the team could support Dice K the way those two did we could have won tonight.

Well I like the idea he hit a monstrous shot and I have to stand down on my criticism of him......certainly for tonight. He and Crisp both had two hits tonight and they certainly did more than the rest of the crew. Thanks for going easy on me because unlike two others who I will answer in kind, I could have been attacked by you with good cause. Let's hope this leads to something good. I was wrong tonight and I hope I am wrong in the future. It would be great if those two started coming through for us. Now let's win tomorrow.

A shot to grow????? This is Pena's ninth season of pro ball my friend. When the hell is he going to grow? Why the hell hasn't he grown yet? Why the hell did the Yankees and the Reds both trade him away? Why can't he still not hit a curve? The only thing Wily Mo has shown that he has a tremendous ability to regress after showing a little promise. As for Crisp, he will get a solid shot to get out of his funk and I certainly hope he does, but his persona on the field tells me that he would love to get out of Boston as soon as he can. There were numerous fans saying the same thing last week in Fenway. His discomfort in a Red Sox uniform was evident to most of us the way he went back to the dugout head down and in another world.

Byrnes collected two doubles last night facing Brad Penny. Last time I checked Penny was a righthander. Last time I checked Byrnes was hitting 288 with five doubles. Last time you checked what was Pena hitting? What was Crisp? Now you will win this argument only because Theo is not trading for Eric and we are going to go with your two boys until they either start contributing or they have anchored us down in the deep. I have always been an Eric Brynes fan as you could see and that was because I loved his gritty hard nosed play. We could always used that type of player on the Red Sox especially if they can hit and field and run. Brynes can do all those things. What the hell can Pena do but strike out. I have seen this guy at bat ten times this season down in Florida and in Boston. One single and seven strikeouts. Some hitting, huh? As for Crisp look up his stats so far. He is not even making solid contact. Maybe this series against Toronto? Hopefully so. I am not holding my breath for it, though.

And anyone who would take Crisp or Pena over Byrnes never had any credibility in the first place. That you or anyone else can sit there and say that either one of those bums is going to get the job done for us this season means that you still haven't put the crack pipe down. Crisp is mentally spent and Pena couldn't hit water if he fell out of a boat.

Come on Crunch, you're no fool. You know damn well why we are still debating about Wily Mo Pena. Simple really. One, the front office is determined to prove that they made the right deal when they traded for this white elephant, and, secondly, their determination to ram him down our throats come hell or high water. Right now Pena has almost zero trade value and the longer we seem him flailing away at curves and being unsure of himself in the outfield his value will keep dropping. He has to go somewhere to get his act together if that is possible. He can't do it here unless the powers-that-be want to see the Red Sox as an also ran. He as well as Crisp cannot do it for us and the sooner they are let go the better for them and especially for us.

Ted, read my posts, read ORS's post, read Animal's posts. There are plenty of us who see Pena for the waste of time that he is. Sorry to say that since the guy is a pretty good joe but we are in this to win and he isn't going to help us much. Now if Crisp would finally get off his collective ass and start making some contributions with the bat we wouldn't have to have these exchanges. As it is, we will probably see both of them alternating into the forseeable a future with each one trying to outdo the other in the art of f***ing up.