AlexanderTheGreat13

The Royals. They have no present and no future. Atleast most of the other teams on that list have good young players or high draft picks (ATL and HOU).

Julio is far from good imo. He throws a stright fastball and a hard slider that he has little command over. He always melts in pressure situations. They did take the closers job away from him and I think its telling even with Ryan gone they wouldnt give the job back to him. Benson might suck in the AL but he was ok with the Mets and with Seo gone there roation takes a hit.

Agreed, very poor trade for the Mets. Unless they are clearing money to trade for Zito and sign him to an extension(which I doubt when you consider they are unwilling to deal Lastings Millidge) this is a poor trade for them.

Was Herm Edwards even a coordinator before he took over with the Jets? I could swear he was a DB's coach in Tampa when they hired him.

You assume wrong.

Manning is the classic front runner and a bully. Hes a great QB when everything is going right but when he faces the first sign of adversity he folds. Not a QB I want on my team and I'll tell you what. I hear alot of people comparing him to Dan Marino. I think thats an insult to Marino to be honest. Also I hate the Pats but I cringe when ever anyone compares Manning to Brady. Thats a slap in Brady's face also. Manning never won a big game in college(he will always be known in Tennesse as the guy who couldnt beat Florida) and hes 3-6 in the playoffs. Mark it down......he will NEVER win any big game.

Peyton, Vanderjegt, (I know hes had a tough time of late BUT still) Tony Dungy and EVEN Marvin Harrison (who nobody is even talking about) they are all people who you do not want on your team in a big spot.

I never said I was buying the story or anything like that(who knows Gammons may be right or wrong that wasnt the point) but you said: "The bad MRI story hasn't been confirmed by any respectable sporting news source." Peter Gammons is a HOF. As for the the 1 Schilling start what does it prove anyway(if you listen to the WFAN interviews it confirms what I said but w/e)? He still pitched poorly the start before and struggled during the season. To say Schilling will be better then RJ (which was the main point of the whole argument) is ridicules when you consider you dont know what your going to get from Schilling.

I dont remember saying Schilling will do what he did in 05. I do remember saying Schilling wont be what he was in 2004 again which alot of you have already stated. You and I know that they didnt take that game seriously. In one interview(on wfan) A-Rod said that they didnt take that game as seriously as they should have. Also Schilling got beat up the start before(6.1 10H 5ER). As for Beckett if you guys want to act like hes not inury prone, and he didnt have any shoulder problem last year that ok, thats fine with me. According to this rotoworld blurb Peter Gammons was reporting that shoulder MRI story as well: Dec. 7, 2005 - 4:24 am et The Red Sox probably won't attempt to sign Josh Beckett to a long-term deal before the start of next season. "We kind of want to date for a while," said assistant GM Jed Hoyer. "We just acquired him. Let's get to know each other over the next couple months. If we decide we want to do a long-term deal, we'll do that." ESPN's Peter Gammons is going around saying that Beckett's MRI was so bad that the Red Sox aren't sure they'll get 20 starts from him next season. While we find that hard to believe -- he's an injury risk, but the Red Sox had access to the MRI before completing the deal -- waiting is clearly the smart play for Boston here. With two years remaining before free agency, it's not like he'd come cheap if he signed now. Source: Boston Globe http://rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_previousnews.asp?sport=MLB&leaguenum=&id=6403

You said it yourself. They threw Jaret Wright out there. How seriously were they taking the game? Obviously not at all. I heard players after the season say that that game wasnt taken seriously. So I'll take there word for it and I'm not even saying thats a good thing.

Comparing him to RJ you automaticly saying hes going to have that season plus remember hes an "ace" or a #1. You guys did say that when you traded for him. Or atleast the media did. 1 of the Schilling starts were legit. The last one noone even tried. They were worn out from celebrating the division title they won the day before.

Mike Lowell>A-Rod too?

Yeah I know, its all decline esp when you consider noone has ever struggled moving from the NL to the AL and of course it wont effect Josh Beckett at all.

You said it in your post. Beckett has poor home/away splits. Why should I think hes going to win 17-20 games, pitch to a low 3 ERA and K 200 in his first year in the AL, and in Fenway park? Why should I think hes going to pitch around 200 innings? There are already questions about his MRI. Its amazing how overrated Beckett is. If it was Burnett that pitched game 6 in NY and not Beckett he wouldnt be getting this much hype.

Man your a pin head. If I recall you said "No one said that" refering to everyone in the thread. I just pointed out one person who classified Johnson and Schilling in the same catogory. and hes comparing them based on last season. What else could he be basing the comparison on? If its not last season then its his own personal (and biased) opinion of what they will do. Which I take with a grain of salt because he is a Red Sox fan thus is biased.

and your basing that on because Schilling spent how many days on the DL and RJ spent 0 days on the DL last season? again you can say he will decline but to compare Johnson and 18 game winner with 200 K's to Schilling who couldnt get his splitter over last season and is 39? and still working his way back from ankle surgery is a bit ridicules. I know RJ is a Yankee and all but be realistic.

Do you see that Crespo? thats comparing Schilling and Johnson. Take your own advice.

I never said he wont decline but you guys make it seem he will be Schilling of 05. Thats insane.

Boy oh boy that was a massive drop off he showed last year. I wish most of my pitches only won 18 games and pitched 225 innings with that bad knee that really hampered him last season(when you consider the only time he missed was due to a back injury not a knee) Please throw out the name that had that massive drop off. Who were the other Red Sox starters in the top 50? Is this also for the entire league or AL?

How can you say Schilling will be more effective and reliable then Mussina? Both of them missed time last season(Schilling more then Mussina). Schilling was coming off of very serious surgery. At his age there is no garentee that he will make it back. Thats an = if not Mussina>Schilling based on Schilling might not even being effective again.

Your right a pitcher whos never thrown more then 180 innings should be counted on more and is better then a guy who won 18 games last year, pitched 225 innings and struck out 211(not in the weak NL EAST).

alot of people compare Leinerts arm strength to Pennington's.

Its intresting....you keep bringing up Young not being smart enough. What exactly are you basing that on? Young being the #1 rated passer in the nation? His back to back Rose Bowl MVP's? Please enlighten us.

lol Young forced Caroll to go for it on 4th down because Caroll believed if he would have punted the ball back to him he wouldnt have stopped him anyway. Thats how good Young is.

There really is nothing else to do but to go pro. In fact you can make a case that next year if Ted Ginn Jr and Adrian Peterson declare he might have to beat out more talent not just Brady Quinn.