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I read that boston was interested in Zumaya for the pen. He shouldn't cost much on a one year deal because he's so injury prone. If he manages to stay healthy then bes a very good setup option. I don't see much to lose there other than a million or so of someone else's money.
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I don't know how teams avoid bad FA signings, other than being really conservative. That at least mitigates opportunity for loss. That's what Theo espoused for a couple years. People in the media complained that they were unexciting and should spend their money. It's a tough call. I can't think of a team that hasn't had some failures in FA. Even the beloved Phillies will be regretting their contract for Ryan Howard. I guess due diligence is the most anyone can ask of the sox. If that leads to a strong push for Darvish or Cespedes then so be it.
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I'm awaiting the opportunity to see what Ben Cherington will be like as a GM. I'm not an apologist for them and, frankly, think that Theo buffered a lot of Larry Lucchino's influence which could have been even worse. I'm done with the FO arguments though. I just hate this point in the offseason. Nobody knows what the Sox are going to do, yet until it happens the posts just sound like they are bound to do nothing. It's absurd. For all we know the Sox could be planning a big push for Yu Darvish.
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Shouldn't the same also apply to those who have already written off the utility of Doubront and Weiland based on very limited viewing? These are very young players who have progressed through their respective levels with lots of success. They deserve time to show if they can produce or not.
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Bobby Valentine agrees ro deal to become Red Sox Manager
example1 replied to MatParker116's topic in Boston Red Sox Talk
I'm pretty sure you got the Chicken Little reference wrong. Chicken Little, AKA Chicken Lickin, AKA Henny Penny, was known for freaking out because he thought the world was going to end when it, in fact, was not. There are plenty of Chicken Little's around, but Ben Cherington isn't it. -
I can't believe I just spent 8 minutes reading today's-worth of posts. What has happened to this board? Ugh. Get over Papelbon, he is gone. User Name keeps noting the dead horse being beaten, but nobody seems to notice. A few years ago those of you currently bitching about how irreplacable Bard is as a setup guy hadn't evem heard of Bard. A few years before that you hadn't heard of Okijima. Now you're freaking out because someone else--you don't yet know who--will have that role. Plenty of good teams work out who that player will be as the season goes on, and load up on decent arms so there are enough to choose from. Stop freaking out. You're not smarter than Ben Cherington and Larry Lucchino when it comes to putting together an actual baseball team.
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Color me impressed. On thing I can imagine immediately is that Bobby (a one-word figure soon enough if you ask me) will not let a lack of passion bring this team down. He is older and experienced, yet openly acknowledges that this is by FAR the best situation he has been a part of. It took him decades to get there. The players--love him or hate him--won't be allowed to forget that their opportunities in the league are fleeting and that this Sox team really is a great chance to get a WS. Hard to hate a guy for being passionate.
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Not giving bard a chance to close is a slap in the face. Bard deserves it, based both on his stuff and performance. The sox risk not letting this guy promote from within and would be risking a really good arm not signing longterm, etc., bard has a special arm and would be the most obvious and effective closer... Unless they start paying the relief ace like a closer, which would be warranted given the importance of the role, though highly unlikely.
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Bobby Valentine agrees ro deal to become Red Sox Manager
example1 replied to MatParker116's topic in Boston Red Sox Talk
That's what some people specialize in. The media-fanbase information cycle around the Red Sox seems close to a breaking point. Fans (myself included at times) are chomping at the bit for news, writers are chomping at the bit for readers, so for every 50 pieces of speculative theorizing there might be 1 piece of actual, legitimate news. That's okay when things are good and the main offseason concern is signing players. When its about whether or not the team can survive its interpersonal issues, it is like watching a train wreck in slow motion. I hope that Bobby Valentine is aware of this and is able to use some of his supposed brilliance and obvious persona to buffer some of this s***, shield the team, and let the new leaders on this team emerge. -
Bobby Valentine agrees ro deal to become Red Sox Manager
example1 replied to MatParker116's topic in Boston Red Sox Talk
Bummer for them, huh? Tough s***. New boss. We all have to deal with it now and then. -
Sorry soxsport, but how does reading a book about the early 2000's A's give you insight into the Sox that books about the Sox don't provide, like Feeding the Monster, for instance? EDIT: The article says very little that is new, other than the fact that interpersonal relationships, specifically trust, play a huge part in the role and comfort of a manager. That makes a lot of sense. It doesn't really say anything at all about the general manager meddling in what the manager is doing, other than that Theo went a long way to establish and maintain trust with his manager, and that it worked until this year. I think Valentine would be interesting, but I worry that Lucchino does not know how to deal with personalities and that might come to bite him in the ass here. Of course, I don't know valentine personally so my judgment is pretty limited.
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Papelbon said for a long time that he wanted to test the market and set precedent as a closer. The Sox explored with him. They knew better than any other team what he would be looking for. Clearly, what he was looking for was something like what he got. Bard is close to the same value at 1/10th the cost. Seems like a no-brainer.
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After the sox offered arbitration it was reported that he wanted a multiple year deal. Theres a good chance he goes elsewhere or signs a more team-friendly deal with the sox.
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Not sure. A package around Ranaudo probably. Doubront too perhaps. At this point I think the Sox would be appropriate to just tell teams that they have 4-5 guys who are simply off limits. Their top prospects. Except for Ranaudo, who could be moved for really solid pitchers. So that's Kalish, Middlebrooks and Lavarnway (who all have obvious openings on this team in the next 2-3 years), Bogearts (who has tremendous upside), and probably some of the recent draftees who can't be dealt anyway (Swihart and Barnes in particular). Otherwise, I would be open to discussion. The Cubs system is weak and could use some high upside talent like the Sox have. As much s*** as people want to talk about the Sox system, they do have a number of expensive and highly coveted draftees from the past 2 drafts. It isn't as shallow as many want to believe. I like Pete Abraham's suggestion of (Theo Compensation) + Vitek + Ranaudo.
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I'm not a strong proponent of him, no. I'm worried about certain aspects of his performance and don't have a ton of faith that he could come to Boston and be dominant. If the price were right, of course he would be worth getting because the Sox could use a 200+ high K pitcher who is cost controlled. I'm just not liking the comparisons re: trade that I'm hearing for him. I think the Sox system is thin enough that it is worth holding onto guys like Middlebrooks, Lavarnway and Kalish, Bogaerts, and a few others.
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It was a really dumb trade on Seattle's part, not a model to be followed. I take our point, but my point is that your price is too high. Xander is arguibly the orgs best prospect, Kalish is a possible all-star OF (he has Ellsbury's upside), and one of those other guys (Coyle, Cecchini, etc.,) are all very young talented pieces who could develop into a lot. I need something more certain than Gio if I'm giving up that much.
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To clarify, by "that much" I mean over the new arb minimum Thimbu in the new CBA. It will still cost a pretty penny. I've been all for not resigning Ortiz. My ideal situation would be him declining arb and the sox being back in the drivers seat.
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Right except he won't be locked into a multiple-year deal so they can make that decision in 2012. The alternative would be worse. I also wouldn't assume that arb is going to cost them a huge amount of money. A DH isn't worth that much these days.