CrespoBlows

$10 million in 2009 per mlbtraderumors.com

Huff would be a good addition, but where will he fit in 2009, or even in two weeks? He's not exactly cheap, either. Sign Bonds. He'll only cost $300,000.

That's what I am trying to say. Did the Red Sox really need to part with five players for Santana? Lester is pitching better than Santana, and he's getting better. The starting rotation was not a glaring hole to be filled, and three of the players in the deal are major contributors this year. The Red Sox already are. They spent $10 million on the draft in 2008, and made big splashes in the international market in 2007. The Yankees have failed in 2008, so I understand why you're pissed. There is something wrong with your ability to reason, if you believe that this is what ORS really thinks. Not true. When you give up a significant amount of talent for one player, you also have to fill their holes with someone else, which means more money and probably a player of lesser talent. Consider the Santana deal again. The Red Sox would have to fill the holes left by Masterson and Lowrie. Cora would most likely be Lowrie's replacement, which would be a big downgrade offensively, and a downgrade defensively. The loss of Masterson would be crushing, as he gave the Red Sox well above average starts when he needed to be plugged in. He's also been pitching great out of the bullpen, when the rest of the bullpen has been absent this month. I mean, we could fill holes with veterans, but that would mean more prospects for players who wouldn't be producing as highly as our prospects on the roster right now. You also have to factor in that Santana has a $20 million price tag. That would severely reduce roster flexibility. Without Lowrie or Masterson, the Red Sox would be looking at filling the 8th inning role, and the starting SS position, with consideribly less money to spend. Unless you believe Lugo is a competent starting SS. The additional payroll the Red Sox have by not trading Santana, will allow them to keep Jon Lester, Jed Lowrie, Justin Masterson, and Ryan Kalish. (Coco Crisp, too) The best part about the no-deal? They have $20 million to throw around on free agents. BTW, I have to call ******** on Gom touting himself on trading Buchholz instead of Lester. Lester couldn't locate a fastball to save his ass. Buchholz had just thrown a no-hitter, and was rated a top prospect by every major publication. Hindsight is 20/20.....

Fail.

f*** Coco.

I don't think he's going to miss a lot of time, but should we put him on the DL to get him back at 100%?

Yeah, because Coco Crisp's ability to make Josh Beckett smile is worth far more than adding a .500 OBP 6-10 HR player for the month of September.

Bonds - LF Bay - RF

When does Casey Kelly give up on hitting?

Correlation does not always equal causation.

Mauer is going to get a massive contract. He'll be the best catcher in baseball, and he'll still be in his prime. Why wouldn't you test the FA market? I don't think Minnesota pays him the $16-18 million, he'll probably fetch.

I don't see it. Varitek's CERA was dreadfully bad in 2005, and 2006. http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/stats?playerId=3760&context=fielding In 2007, and 2008, it's way down. I wonder why that is.

I'd go two years, $14 million. Then, go hard after Mauer.

No. Buchholz potential is still an ace starter. Ellsbury has done OK, all things considered in CF, and Masterson is looking like he'll either be a dominant reliever, or a good number three starter. I'm not convinced that Santana would dominate the AL East, especially with his falling numbers, and declining fastball. Remember, this deal has five years left on it. At $20 million each. I'd rather sign Sabathia, and keep all five. (The deal was actually Lester, Ellsbury, Masterson, Lowrie, and Kalish for Santana) That way, the team is substantially stronger in the future.

Why does there need to be discussion about movies on a Boston Red Sox forum? People talk about politics. If you don't like that, don't look at the thread. You won't be offended.

I agree. I think bans should be lengthier if the fights spills out into the other forums.

He's calling a great game, though.

Dude, that's a universal claim. Not all drafts that did not result in the signing of a first round pick, turn out to be bad drafts.

Not always.

Line drive turned into a DP.

Bay called out on a pitch two feet outside.

Jeff Bailey or Sean Casey will hit a home run today.

Could we make a seperate thread that required an password/membership? I understand that it's controversial, but people should expect that when talking about a political subject, and should develop thicker skin before entering. Banning political discussion is just going to make people leave, so why not protect the people who are blissfully happy without politics, and allow those who wish to discuss it, do so?

He's making fun of you, because he thinks you are lying about your profession. Which is hillariously ironic, considering Thumper's employment history.