8/11 @ Royals

[BigPapi]

You sir, are correct. Those are numbers from our number 5 hitter. That is not acceptable.

 

 

Lol, he has similar stats to koji, except koji doesnt have that many people left on base.

[BigPapi]

Tough righty. Will cant get a hit,

[BigPapi]

Cmon dude. Ur a 32 hr hitter. Hit one out now,

[RedSoxfanforlife305]

Get your bat of your shoulders, what the f*** man? No wonder why you're now 0-3 with 3k's

[BigPapi]

Ik they were gonna go 1,2,3

[RedSoxfanforlife305]

Get out of Kansas City asap. f*** them, someone needs to beat the s*** out of them.

[BigPapi]

I would be excited for tommrows game, but with dumpster on the mound, uhhh.

[RedSoxfanforlife305]

And a huge f*** you to Napoli. You're so useless you dickhead.

[BigPapi]

And a huge f*** you to Napoli. You're so useless you dickhead.

 

Basically now we just have to thank him for that walk off hr vs the yankees and a great april and platoon his ass.

[RedSoxfanforlife305]

Basically now we just have to thank him for that walk off hr vs the yankees and a great april and platoon his ass.

 

I remember that game like it was yesterday. I was there and I remember clearly screaming at the top of my lungs because of Napoli. Not because of the walkoff though. I was excited for that, but he also had a huge DP in the 8th along with 3 K's. I'll never forget the look people kept giving me as I was going apeshit, I didn't really care though.

[BigPapi]

I remember that game like it was yesterday. I was there and I remember clearly screaming at the top of my lungs because of Napoli. Not because of the walkoff though. I was excited for that, but he also had a huge DP in the 8th along with 3 K's. I'll never forget the look people kept giving me as I was going apeshit, I didn't really care though.

 

Hahahah.

[VA Sox Fan]

I would be excited for tommrows game, but with dumpster on the mound, uhhh.

 

The Red Sox are off tomorrow. DEMPSTER pitches Tuesday.

[TylerD]

Disappointing series. But we have a struggling Jays series coming up. Hopefully we can take advantage and pull ahead of Tampa by a few games. Tampa seems to replicate our win and lose patterns lately.

[BigPapi]

The Red Sox are off tomorrow. DEMPSTER pitches Tuesday.

 

Whats with all the hate towards me... Jeez lol.

[Station 13]

So glad to be done with KC. This was probably the worst series the Red Sox play this season. All the starters sucked all the good feeling out early in the game.

[Palodios]

Rays got swept by the Dodgers. Red Sox still 3 games up on the division, but the Orioles keep gaining ground, at 4.5 back.

[jacksonianmarch]

The Royals showed what it takes to beat Boston, shut down the offense. Good pitching will beat this sox team. But bad pitching gets brutalized by the sox, even average to above average pitching gets destroyed. Boston doesn't have the staff to shut down good hitting teams, but they do enough to let their offense carry the load. If a team can hold the sox hitters at bay, they'll beat them.

[Station 13]

The Royals showed what it takes to beat Boston, shut down the offense. Good pitching will beat this sox team. But bad pitching gets brutalized by the sox, even average to above average pitching gets destroyed. Boston doesn't have the staff to shut down good hitting teams, but they do enough to let their offense carry the load. If a team can hold the sox hitters at bay, they'll beat them.

 

1+1=2?

[jacksonianmarch]

I know it is simplistic, but the sox aren't beating anyone based on pitching alone. They don't have a staff that can dominate a short series. I bet they are hoping for a serious meltdown from Detroit or their ouster prior to running into them

[jung]

The Sox offense is living proof of how much you can accomplish by pushing the opposing pitcher to serious early pitch counts. You get to the pen and win the game there. Do you guys really think this late innings, heroics thing is all about the "heros" of that particular moment. Makes for a nice fairy tale but that is about it.

 

However, I don't like seeing them play from behind so often. The other team becomes emboldened in its running game for one thing and our pitchers don't do jack s*** to hold runners in place. I also don't like seeing our pitchers especially the starters so reluctant to pitch inside. You must be able to pitch inside during crunch time of a pennant race. What success the D-backs had against us could be traced to unwillingness to drive hitters of the plate and from that series on it seems to me that opponent major league scouts have had the phone lines burning up getting that info back to their teams. We really did not have a single starter pitch inside with any success in KC until Lackey and I think he was really struggling with the ankle. Hence he just did not pitch that well overall.

 

Pitching inside has been a problem for most of the year but it was so obvious in the D-backs series. I suspect that is why it has now become a weak spot that opposing teams are trying to exploit.

[RedSoxfanforlife305]

1+1=2?

 

Lmao right? He thinks he's giving expert analysis, when he's just stating the obvious.

[Bellhorn04]

The Sox offense is living proof of how much you can accomplish by pushing the opposing pitcher to serious early pitch counts. You get to the pen and win the game there. Do you guys really think this late innings, heroics thing is all about the "heros" of that particular moment. Makes for a nice fairy tale but that is about it.

 

Sorry jung, but there's nothing to support these statements. It would be more accurate to say that you win games by knocking out the starting pitcher because it means you've put up a bunch of early runs to accomplish that. In general you don't win that many games against the other team's bullpen. And late inning heroics are not fairy tales. It's just not something you can do consistently.

 

Here is the Red Sox OPS broken down by innings:

 

1-3 .836

4-6 .780

7-9 .741

 

The best time to score runs is early. In the late innings you're more likely to be facing effective pitchers.

[VA Sox Fan]

Pitching matchups for the Blue Jays series

 

Tuesday: RHP Ryan Dempster (6-8, 4.67) vs. TBA, 7:07 p.m., NESN.

 

Wednesday: LHP Jon Lester (10-7, 4.37) vs. RHP Josh Johnson (2-8, 6.20), 7:07 p.m., NESN.

 

Thursday: RHP Jake Peavy (9-4, 4.50) vs. LHP Mark Buehrle (8-7, 4.43), 7:07 p.m., NESN, MLB Network.

[jung]

Sorry jung, but there's nothing to support these statements. It would be more accurate to say that you win games by knocking out the starting pitcher because it means you've put up a bunch of early runs to accomplish that. In general you don't win that many games against the other team's bullpen. And late inning heroics are not fairy tales. It's just not something you can do consistently.

 

Here is the Red Sox OPS broken down by innings:

 

1-3 .836

4-6 .780

7-9 .741

 

The best time to score runs is early. In the late innings you're more likely to be facing effective pitchers.

 

Yes but we all know that the first inning is the most difficult inning for all starting pitchers. So, it stands to reason that innings 1-3 will produce the best OPS mainly because of the 1st inning. In innings 4-6, the starter is still in but by inning 6 beginning to fade. So once again it stands to reason that the second highest OPS would be achieved in innings 4-6 but mainly because the starter is fading. By innings 7-9 you neither have the first inning issues of the starter to deal with nor do you have the fading starter to deal with. You have fresh pitchers often pitching single innings. However if they were that "effective" as pitchers, they would be starters. They benefit from the brevity of their stints and their ability to expend all of their energy in one inning or present such a change to the hitters from the starter that they can get though three outs. However they are NOT more effective than starters.

 

Getting the starter out of the game has been an acknowledged method of generating offense since the beginnings of modern era of baseball and surely since the development of relief pitchers who for the most part are.....failed starters. I seriously doubt hitters would do anywhere near as well against a fresh starter in the late innings than a reliever which is why many teams when in the post season consider whatever starter they have relegated to the pen to be their best relief pitcher in a none closing role that they have.

[Bellhorn04]

Yes but we all know that the first inning is the most difficult inning for all starting pitchers. So, it stands to reason that innings 1-3 will produce the best OPS mainly because of the 1st inning. In innings 4-6, the starter is still in but by inning 6 beginning to fade. So once again it stands to reason that the second highest OPS would be achieved in innings 4-6 but mainly because the starter is fading. By innings 7-9 you neither have the first inning issues of the starter to deal with nor do you have the fading starter to deal with. You have fresh pitchers often pitching single innings. However if they were that "effective" as pitchers, they would be starters. They benefit from the brevity of their stints and their ability to expend all of their energy in one inning or present such a change to the hitters from the starter that they can get though three outs. However they are NOT more effective than starters.

 

Getting the starter out of the game has been an acknowledged method of generating offense since the beginnings of modern era of baseball and surely since the development of relief pitchers who for the most part are.....failed starters. I seriously doubt hitters would do anywhere near as well against a fresh starter in the late innings than a reliever which is why many teams when in the post season consider whatever starter they have relegated to the pen to be their best relief pitcher in a none closing role that they have.

 

But in the modern era of baseball, the starter is almost always out of the game by the 9th inning, and any late inning heroics have to be performed against the other team's closer, who usually has one of the lowest ERA's on the team.

 

And in order for there to be heroics, it usually means you're trailing in the game.

 

So really, getting the starter out of the game has little to do with late inning heroics. They're certainly not a 'fairytale'.

[SoxSport]

I guess Workman is delegated to cleaning up for Dumpster. The guy has two good starts, and one or two bad relief efforts. You'd think they'd start him, but he is apparently stuck as a reliever. I would have left him to start until he showed otherwise. Dempster should be cleaning up for him. But money talks.

 

The Bogaerts countdown is in progress. When will somebody get the bright idea that maybe he might be better than Drew against LHP?

 

They lost 3 out of 4 to KC, and are still 3 games ahead of TB. Thank you, Dodgers.

[Bellhorn04]

The Bogaerts countdown is in progress. When will somebody get the bright idea that maybe he might be better than Drew against LHP?

 

Drew is on a 12-game hitting streak. He has 19 hits and 9 walks in the 12 games. Pretty sure some of those were off LHP.

 

Also, Bogaerts has 10 errors in 53 games. Defence counts too.