Crawford a Red Sox for life!

[example1]

I agree with almost everything in your post' date=' but I have one question about something you mention. When you said "hate Crawford and everything that he stands for", what do you and/or the Red Sox think he "stands for"?[/quote']

 

Actually that's a great question. I have no idea what I meant by "everything he stands for".

 

I remember writing that post fairly early this morning when I was in a hurry.

[jung]

Well not trying to explain it for E1 as much as making a general comment....but many of have wondered about Carl's game and how it was supposed be a fit for the Sox. It also makes you wonder about Theo's thought process if in fact he was simply trying to protect against the departure of Ells. Regardless of whether or not Ells was going to be able to repeat his 2011 power numbers he was always IMO going to produce somewhat better power numbers than Crawford and maybe even much better power numbers then Crawford. I don't think there is even a question any longer about whether Crawford is Ells equal defensively in the outfield. Neither have great arms even even when Crawford is healthy but Ells simply gets to more balls out there and is more likely to complete the play and catch the thing when he gets there. Maybe Crawford has better speed than Ells but until he starts getting on base more, it is hard to see that as anything to write home about.

[Laser Show]

Well not trying to explain it for E1 as much as making a general comment....but many of have wondered about Carl's game and how it was supposed be a fit for the Sox. It also makes you wonder about Theo's thought process if in fact he was simply trying to protect against the departure of Ells. Regardless of whether or not Ells was going to be able to repeat his 2011 power numbers he was always IMO going to produce somewhat better power numbers than Crawford and maybe even much better power numbers then Crawford. I don't think there is even a question any longer about whether Crawford is Ells equal defensively in the outfield. Neither have great arms even even when Crawford is healthy but Ells simply gets to more balls out there and is more likely to complete the play and catch the thing when he gets there. Maybe Crawford has better speed than Ells but until he starts getting on base more' date=' it is hard to see that as anything to write home about.[/quote']

 

How was he "always going to produce better power numbers" than Crawford? Before 2011, Crawford regularly put up over .800 OPS with around 15 HR. In Ellsbury's 2 full seasons, his highest OPS and HR were .770 and 9 HR. Nothing pointed to Crawford falling off a cliff or Ellsbury becoming Babe Ruth 2.0. Just look at the numbers, Ellsbury was a below average hitter with great speed and decent defense.

[jung]

Well if you notice I was not really trying to make a major case for there being a big spread between Ells and Crawford in power numbers except as a "maybe" but I think Ells has exhibited more of an ability to hit with "some" power to all fields. So I think he would have or will do better than CC will in Fenway. Outside of Fenway, I am not sure either guy is going to get much done with the exception of places with a short RF porch.

 

At any rate it is the Fenway factor that makes me suspect that Ells would always end up with somewhat better power numbers than Crawford.

 

Ells numbers are all better in Fenway than away from Fenway and his power numbers are better there. Wish 2010 had not been such a mess for him. While I would be surprised if he could repeat 2011, It would have been nice to see if 2011 was at least a progression through 2010 from 2009.

[a700hitter]

Actually that's a great question. I have no idea what I meant by "everything he stands for".

 

I remember writing that post fairly early this morning when I was in a hurry.

Jist some hyperbole. I get it. I engage in it myself from time to time.