7/22 vs. Blue Jays

[SemperFi Sox]

Jon Lester (5-7, 4.80 ERA) vs. Henderson Alvarez (5-7, 4.29)

 

 

shoot me now

[SemperFi Sox]

We're 72-79 since last Aug 1.....wake up ownership

[Palodios]

This is a pretty critical game. Losing here will put the Red Sox into last place in the AL East, as they'll go into a brutal away trip against the Yankees and Tigers. I just hope the Red Sox front office doesn't get arrogant here.

[SemperFi Sox]

WMB and Crawford not in the lineup, f*** valentine

[VA Sox Fan]

RED SOX (48-47)

 

Ellsbury CF

Nava LF

Pedroia 2B

Gonzalez 1B

Ross DH

Saltalamacchia C

Sweeney RF

Aviles SS

Punto 3B

 

Pitching: LHP Jon Lester (5-7, 4.80)

[Station 13]

What. Middlebrooks could not DH?

[mvp 78]

WMB: 225 OBP in July.

 

He needed to sit.

[NC Sox Fan]

The Herald is reporting this about Crawford and WMB - They are not hurt, but it is more for precautionary reasons and preventive maintenance

 

Is this a good move when Ortiz is hurt, we're in danger of being swept and barely above .500???

[SemperFi Sox]

I'd rather have a struggling WMB in there than Punto.

[mvp 78]

f*** it, just have everyone play 162...

[SoxFanForsyth]

I agree that not everyone is going to play all 162, but you have to pick and choose your spots to sit people. Like after you've taken 2/3 from the ChiSox. Not after you've lost 2/2 vs the Jays.

 

This is terrible management by Valentine.

[mvp 78]

This game is no more important than any other game. You guys freak out about everything.

 

"They're not playing Ells! They're s***ing on the fans!"

 

Give me a break.

[mvp 78]

WMB has been horrible lately.

 

Every hit to LF is an automatic double with CC's lollipop arm at the moment.

 

It's not as big of a loss as you guys are making out to be.

[Station 13]

WMB has hit the ball hard this homestand. It's just right at somebody. He's also hitting to RF again. There's been 6-7 lineouts for him the last 4 games.

[SoxFanForsyth]

WMB has hit the ball hard this homestand. It's just right at somebody. He's also hitting to RF again. There's been 6-7 lineouts for him the last 4 games.

 

Not to mention that Nava is hitting .059 since the ASB, and .122 in July.

 

Even if Crawford and Middlebrooks weren't producing at their normal levels, they still have the ability to bounce back to those levels at any AB. Punto and Nava don't have that ability.

[ellsburyforMVP]

Not to mention that Nava is hitting .059 since the ASB, and .122 in July.

 

Even if Crawford and Middlebrooks weren't producing at their normal levels, they still have the ability to bounce back to those levels at any AB. Punto and Nava don't have that ability.

 

In all fairness, your talking about WMB like he's an 8 yr veteran instead of a rookie who's been in the bigs for 2 months........

[SoxFanForsyth]

In all fairness' date=' your talking about WMB like he's an 8 yr veteran instead of a rookie who's been in the bigs for 2 months........[/quote']

 

But we're comparing him to Punto. Nick Punto.

[Palodios]

This game is no more important than any other game. You guys freak out about everything.

 

How the Red Sox fare over the next week and a half will determine whether this team needs to be buyers or sellers. So yes, this week is more important than the first week in august, or september, games against fellow AL East teams especially so.

[ellsburyforMVP]

But we're comparing him to Punto. Nick Punto.

 

Good point........ My bad

[a700hitter]

How the Red Sox fare over the next week and a half will determine whether this team needs to be buyers or sellers. So yes' date=' this week is more important than the first week in august, or september, games against fellow AL East teams especially so.[/quote']The next 6 games are against the Rangers and yankees.

[Palodios]

The next 6 games are against the Rangers and yankees.

 

And if they lose 4 of 6, they'll be 4-5 games back on the wildcard, and desperately need to sell.

[SoxFanForsyth]

It really is amazing, though, that the Sox have played like dogshit the past 2 nights and are still just 2.5 games out.

 

At some point they have to take advantage of the fact that nobody is running away with the WC, and pick it up and run away with the WC.

 

I still say they call up the Phillies and see what it takes to get Cliff Lee. That's a game changer, and he's around for 4 or 5 more years. I know a lot of people want to be sellers, but even if we're sellers, we still need an ace that can lead the young pitchers.

[Palodios]

It really is amazing, though, that the Sox have played like dogshit the past 2 nights and are still just 2.5 games out.

 

At some point they have to take advantage of the fact that nobody is running away with the WC, and pick it up and run away with the WC.

 

I still say they call up the Phillies and see what it takes to get Cliff Lee. That's a game changer, and he's around for 4 or 5 more years. I know a lot of people want to be sellers, but even if we're sellers, we still need an ace that can lead the young pitchers.

 

I disagree strongly on Lee. Paying 25 million a year for the backend of a contract despite having very little cap space seems like a bad deal waiting to happen. I'd be very surprised if the top of organization agreed to add that kind of payroll. They'd be better off pulling away Hamels/Greinke and overspending to extend them.

[SoxFanForsyth]

I disagree strongly on Lee. Paying 25 million a year for the backend of a contract despite having very little cap space seems like a bad deal waiting to happen. I'd be very surprised if the top of organization agreed to add that kind of payroll. They'd be better off pulling away Hamels/Greinke and overspending to extend them.

 

The Phils would obviously have to eat about $5mm of the deal/year. The Sox need a veteran pitcher to lead the staff. I can see Hamels and Greinke both falling under Beckett's wing, whereas a guy like Lee can lead the staff.

 

I originally thought Lee was losing it, but his K/9 and BB/9 are much better than in years past. Lee slots the SP in the right slots, and an ace can turn this team from mediocre to elite.

[ellsburyforMVP]

It really is amazing, though, that the Sox have played like dogshit the past 2 nights and are still just 2.5 games out.

 

At some point they have to take advantage of the fact that nobody is running away with the WC, and pick it up and run away with the WC.

 

I still say they call up the Phillies and see what it takes to get Cliff Lee. That's a game changer, and he's around for 4 or 5 more years. I know a lot of people want to be sellers, but even if we're sellers, we still need an ace that can lead the young pitchers.

 

I think lee should be the last guy on their "list of mega stars " .... Just saying, that's alot of money for an old pitcher...

 

Personally, given the mets recent struggles, I'd wait a few more days and see where the mets stand with dickey and Santana??

[wyo-sox]

What are your thoughts on Liriano? He really seems to be turning things around. Wonder if he could be picked up more reasonably?

[NC Sox Fan]

Awesome!!!

[mvp 78]

Same ol' "unlucky" Lester.

[SemperFi Sox]

Lmao!!!

[SoxFanForsyth]

just wow.