4/23 @ Twins

[iortiz]

Papelbon's stats had been just so unimpressive over the last three years. I don't blame them for the trade though. It makes sense' date=' but if they fail to resign Hamels, it'll tell you everything you need to know about the Papelbon contract.[/quote']

 

Only 2010 Pal. 2009 and 2011 are pretty solid.

[SoxFanForsyth]

Ok, well just like SFFS.....I could have lived with that as well.

 

The problem is, none of that happened.

 

Don't get me wrong - I do not approve of the offseason by any means. Taking both Bard and Pap out of the bullpen is unacceptable. As soon as Bailey got hurt, Bard should have moved to closer and the SP project scrapped. It was very unfortunate, but they can't be without Bard, Bailey, or Papelbon and have a successful team.

[Brennan]

I don't mind them Brennan, unless they rub our noses in some of the dung our team creates from time to time.

Besides, it makes them easier to find once we beat their sorry asses. Remember 04? How convenient was that to have them right at our fingertips...

I haven't seen any obnoxious fans of other clubs here yet. Maybe some of the posters who have been here longer have seen them.

 

 

 

HAHA guess you weren't here Saturday, but hell I did say I ignore them now so let's stick to Sox baseball.

[onlybereaved]

I get the feeling that our offense is becoming more confident/less bush-league in the last couple. I hope that continues and gets even better.

[SoxFanForsyth]

There were so many other people to blame that I really didn't see much criticism of Ross. He's a very good role player.

 

He's hitting .283 with a .973 OPS and leading the team in HR with 5.

 

He's more than a role player right now. Let's not forget, when he gets regular playing time, he's able to rake (i.e. his time with the Marlins).

[a700hitter]

Only 2010 Pal. 2009 and 2011 are pretty solid.

The late innings will churn our stomachs all season long and we will experience more devastating losses than we have been used to in past seasons.

[SCM33]

You need to update your sig. Papelbon has 5 saves.

 

Done.

[a700hitter]

He's hitting .283 with a .973 OPS and leading the team in HR with 5.

 

He's more than a role player right now. Let's not forget, when he gets regular playing time, he's able to rake (i.e. his time with the Marlins).

He's much better as a platoon player than as a full time player.

[SoxFanForsyth]

The late innings will churn our stomachs all season long and we will experience more devastating losses than we have been used to in past seasons.

 

Not if Bard is the closer.

[a700hitter]

Not if Bard is the closer.

He's going back to the rotation by all accounts.

[Palodios]

Aaron Cook has a 1.33 ERA in AAA right now. Clearly he's going into the rotation.

[SoxFanForsyth]

He's much better as a platoon player than as a full time player.

 

I'm not a big platoon fan. Too many players need to get into a groove.

[FredLynn]

HAHA guess you weren't here Saturday' date=' but hell I did say I ignore them now so let's stick to Sox baseball.[/quote']

 

No, I wasn't. I left for a friend's birthday party in Berkeley when the score was 9-1 feeling pretty good about the game. I had even started that game thread and was ready to start the next game thread too. When I got home I checked the scores and found out what happened. Not sure how the rest of the thread went at all...for obvious reasons I didn't want to read it.

This board has an ignore feature. You can put anyone you like (or dislike) on ignore and you will see that they have posted something but can't see the post itself. FYI.

[FredLynn]

He's going back to the rotation by all accounts.

 

Yes, he is. Did you see the interview with him during the game? He was very disappointed that he was skipped for this start. Its obvious that starting is what he really wants to do, and he was likely promised by our FO that he would get a chance to do it.

[Palodios]

Aaron Cook has a 1.33 ERA in AAA right now. Clearly he's going into the rotation.

 

He also can opt out and go to another team if he doesn't make the major league roster.

 

What is better-- Cook in the bullpen and Bard in the rotation, or Bard in the bullpen and cook in the rotation? I think it is a no-brainer, and has been for weeks.

[SCM33]

Aaron Cook has a 1.33 ERA in AAA right now. Clearly he's going into the rotation.

 

Who is going to the rotation?

 

Cook?

 

I seriously doubt Bard goes to the bullpen. What does Bard's contract situation look like? They need to be careful with his psyche, otherwise they will lose him mentally and physically when he demands a trade so he can start.

[ellsburyforMVP]

You put it however you want.

[FredLynn]

Aaron Cook has a 1.33 ERA in AAA right now. Clearly he's going into the rotation.

 

He has one week to make it up to the Sox or he can opt out.

[a700hitter]

I'm not a big platoon fan. Too many players need to get into a groove.

His history is that he has been much better as a part time oFer. As a full time OFer he has been prone to long slumps. He's very good against lefties. That's has been his highest and best use up to this point of his career.

[a700hitter]

He has one week to make it up to the Sox or he can opt out.

or we can trade him.

[iortiz]

The late innings will churn our stomachs all season long and we will experience more devastating losses than we have been used to in past seasons.

 

Unless Bard becomes something close tomPappelbon this is going to be tough to handle. I like Bard, but he is still a promise, as a closer and/or as a starter.

[onlybereaved]

Goodnight Everyone - Enjoy being able to not mutter swear words about the Red Sox losing as you lay down to sleep (for once)

[SCM33]

or we can trade him.

 

We wont get anything if teams know that he is going to opt out.

[FredLynn]

or we can trade him.

 

Don't you think it would be a little insane if we trade a guy who is pitching well when we have the kind of pitching we have? I am not sure where he would fit in if Bard continues to start, but I think we should give him a chance.

[jung]

Ross is a very good roll player. Very tough, hard nosed player. Granted he is a bit of a defensive liability but he is another dirt dog. We like those.

 

To be sure, AL scouts and pitching coaches are calling what friends they have in the NL to see how they should throw to him. They are making it just a bit to easy for him right now this first turn through the AL.

 

Lets face it, if he could really hit like this all the time he would be all star team every year and on the way to the HOF. I think he will be a valuable member of this team the entire year, just not at this pace. Talksox has for the most part thought it the best off season signing the Sox made and I see nothing that argues the other way.

[FredLynn]

Good night all.

I promise to walk the dog more often during the game. Seems to have worked tonite. Might even get some more dogs to walk.

[iortiz]

Just for the record... I'm not against this Bard experiment as a starter. I just want to know who is going to close... Aceves? Really?

[iortiz]

Good night all.

I promise to walk the dog more often during the game. Seems to have worked tonite. Might even get some more dogs to walk.

 

Night, pumpsie!

[jung]

Cook will have to come up. They are to thin in pitching to let the guy go. That said, he does not have the kind of stuff that survives the AL East. It is an odd situation. They have a full month were they will really not be challenged by the offensive metal of the league which makes it a good time to bring Cook into the picture. How they use him will remain to be seen. However they have to get him here and likely will send down one of the arms that is really not doing anything for them.

 

Would not be surprised to see him in long relief as a possibility. This starting pitching looks like it will need long relief all season long. It looks like at least Lester will leave more innings on the table than we might have thought initially. Buch is likely to leave some innings on the table and Beckett has not gone deep into games that much in the last few years. As well as the 4 and 5 have pitched, they will leave some innings on the table. If they did not they would not be the 4 and the 5.

 

Another possibility for later in the year might be to trade Cook to a team where he is a better fit in an effort to get back a pitcher that is a better fit here. Whatever happens, if they handle this right Cook could turn out to be a real benefit.

[kapsis21]

Good night folks.