What lineup would you go with?

[SoxFanForsyth]

X2.

 

Crawford in lead-off is a mistake. Ellsbury all the way in the one slot.

 

X3.

 

A line up of Ells - Crawford - Pedey - Gonzo is the most dangerous lineup that we can put out there.

[User Name]

But if you have righty-lefty, your Loogy pitches to one guy and the other guy loses the pitcher. If Crawford is hitting behind Ellsbury, he IS an auto-out to the LOOGY.

 

That success in the two-hole is inferior to the player currently occupying it, AKA Dustin Pedroia. Who btw, rakes against everybody, rendering your example invalid.

 

We can agree to disagree here. You're a big fan of the guy, but i think i'm correct in saying that no matter how fast he is, an .800 OPS guy who can't hit lefties is not such a big deal.

 

Time will tell where he hits.

[seabeachfred]

I was going to suggest Aviles hit 6th and Ross 7th since Aviles hits for a better average, but that went by the boards when I realized that slowpokes Ortiz and Youk would be ahead of him clogging the bases. Better to put Ross in that spot since he has a better chance of hitting one out. I would put Salty ahead of Sweeney since he can't run either and this was from nine, one and two we have a little more speed which gives Bobby the option to move runners with the hit and run, run and hit, bunt and run and just moving the runners. This, of course, hinges on the seemingly probablility that Crawford will not be ready by Opening Day.

[User Name]

And by the way, he's a career .262 hitter vs LHP with a .310 OBP. It's not great, but by no means is it a reason to move him down in the order just because of 1 potential AB. Especially when 70% of his at bats come against RHP.

 

Moving him down purely based on 30% of his at bats is just ridiculous. It really is.

 

A .310 OBP is awful. I'm sorry.

 

And it's moving him down because the player who would be occupying his slot is better. That's sound logic if you ask me.

[SoxFanForsyth]

But if you have righty-lefty, your Loogy pitches to one guy and the other guy loses the pitcher. If Crawford is hitting behind Ellsbury, he IS an auto-out to the LOOGY.

 

That success in the two-hole is inferior to the player currently occupying it, AKA Dustin Pedroia. Who btw, rakes against everybody, rendering your example invalid.

 

We can agree to disagree here. You're a big fan of the guy, but i think i'm correct in saying that no matter how fast he is, an .800 OPS guy who can't hit lefties is not such a big deal.

 

Time will tell where he hits.

 

Pedroia's OPS vs LHP is 210 points higher than his OPS vs RHP. But I digress.

 

What it boils down to is this. Right handed hitters who can't hit RHP are non existent because they can't make it in the bigs because of the prominence of RHP vs LHP. LHH who struggle vs LHP are often times very successful in the MLB because of the prominence of RHP.

 

I'm fine with agreeing to disagree here. I think Pedroia would be just as successful in the 3 slot as he is in the 2 slot, so I have no problem moving him if it means that a guy who hit .255/.289/.405 last year turns into a .305/.355/.450 hitter next year.

 

My whole purpose is the get the most out of every player that you can, so hitting Crawford 2nd and turning him back into the elite player he was in TB is achieving that goal while losing practically nothing by moving the previous 2 hole hitter down to 3. Especially when the only downfall is facing LHP in just 30% of the AB.

 

I can see your reasoning, you can see my reasoning, we just value different ideas. No problem, it's not like I don't respect your opinion, I just disagree.

[SoxFanForsyth]

Just to back the stats, Pedey OPS vs RHP is .800, vs LHP is 1.010.

[User Name]

Fair enough, my friend.

 

Besides, this is all moot until he can actually get back on the field. Hopefully, he's fully healthy and can go back to terrorizing opposing defenses on the basepaths.

[SoxFanForsyth]

Fair enough, my friend.

 

Besides, this is all moot until he can actually get back on the field. Hopefully, he's fully healthy and can go back to terrorizing opposing defenses on the basepaths.

 

Agree 100%.

[User Name]

Just to back the stats' date=' Pedey OPS vs RHP is .800, vs LHP is 1.010.[/quote']

 

Career:

 

.830 Vs RHP, .864 vs LHP

[SoxFanForsyth]

Career:

 

.830 Vs RHP, .864 vs LHP

 

Fair enough. Again - not saying Crawford is a better hitter than Pedroia, just saying the increase in his production moving from 7 to 2 is much greater than the decrease in Pedroias production moving from 2 to 3.

 

And I really think that having Ellsbury and Crawford as a 1-2 punch will take a lot of the pitchers focus off of the 3-4-5 guys when they're on base. Gets those guys a ton of fastballs, which they all hammer.

[Spudboy]

Hmmmm....

[SoxFanForsyth]

Hmmmm....

 

Nice contribution

[VA Sox Fan]

Oops wrong thread.

[Spudboy]

Nice contribution

 

Yes. It was about as substantive as any of yours bro.

 

The Hmmm... means I am thinking. I invite you to discover the process.

 

ENJOY!

[Spudboy]

Oops wrong thread.

 

Well let me misspell some words and you will be off the hook!

[SoxFanForsyth]

Yes. It was about as substantive as any of yours bro.

 

The Hmmm... means I am thinking. I invite you to discover the process.

 

ENJOY!

 

Are you on your period??

[Spudboy]

No. I just have no tolerance for arrogance and stupidity when mixed so frequently. I made an innocuous post (rare for me) and you jumped on me for it. What's the point?

[SoxFanForsyth]

No. I just have no tolerance for arrogance and stupidity when mixed so frequently. I made an innocuous post (rare for me) and you jumped on me for it. What's the point?

 

It was a joke, that's all. That's why I put the after it. It was hardly meant to be arrogant. As for the stupidity, I guess I can't help that.