BUILD WITHIN? FREE AGENTS?

[Emmz]

Haha! But' date=' really that outfield should belong to the Yankees.[/quote']

 

Hey, they're Mets fans, don't be mixing them in with the Yankees now.

[Palodios]

Hey' date=' they're Mets fans, don't be mixing them in with the Yankees now.[/quote']

 

Didn't George work in the Yankees front office?

[Emmz]

Didn't George work in the Yankees front office?

 

He did, but he tried to get fired so he could take a job with the Mets.

[Spitball]

Hey' date=' they're Mets fans, don't be mixing them in with the Yankees now.[/quote']

 

You are right. Like Palodios, I was remembering George working for the Yankees.

 

I particularly remember an episode (maybe a two parter) where Keith Hernandez was Jerry's hero, but Kramer and Newman claimed the Met had spit on them. JFK was a popular movie at the time, and Jerry came up with a "second spitter" theory. Pretty funny. Great show.

[Emmz]

That was The Boyfriend Pt. 1. The Magic Loogie Theory LOL.

 

[BigPapiEnFuego]

Elaine was an Orioles fan. What a bitch

[jung]

Wow Beltre is going crazy in the Rays-Rangers series. Why don't we ever get players like that?

[SoxSport]

I love the idea of Theo' date=' Lackey trade for Garza. That would make me happy happy happy- which I am certain is what the ownership is concerned about.[/quote']

 

Well, that's a very creative way to get rid of Lackey. It may be the ONLY way.

 

Never mind Garza. Just take Lackey if you want Epstein. That's all.:thumbsup:

[Spitball]

That was The Boyfriend Pt. 1. The Magic Loogie Theory LOL.

 

 

:thumbsup: Classic stuff!

[SoxSport]

Ellsbury is clearly no longer a leadoff batter. He's now their best hitter--at least this year.

So he bats 3rd. Amazing that none of those guys at the Globe have suggested that yet.

 

This is an opportunity to make Crawford happy. Make him leadoff batter, Pedey 2nd, Ellsbury 3rd.

At least they have their speed at the top of the lineup. Crawford will be forced to take pitches and steal bases. You don't want a 30HR/100 RBI guy like Ells to be stealing too often anyways. his bat is too valuable.

 

The rest of the lineup can take care of itself. Youks, AdGon, etc.

[BigPapiEnFuego]

Wow Beltre is going crazy in the Rays-Rangers series. Why don't we ever get players like that?

 

Because we have the amazing Kevin Youkilis!

[SoxSport]

Because we have the amazing Kevin Youkilis!

 

"Don't fix it if it ain't broke".

 

A sign that belongs on every GM and manager's desk.

[jung]

I guess if I had been confronted with Beltre vs Youk I would not have taken a run at Beltre under those circumstances. Besides Youk is under contract. Can't be paying two 3rd basemen of that calibre. My squawking is sort of in hindsight. AGons + Youk is costing the Sox way less than Beltre and Youk would cost and AGons is a way better 1st baseman than Youk would be.

 

I complained bitterly about VMart as I could not for the life of me figure out why we did not pick up on VMart and that will never ever make any sense to me.

[Spitball]

Wow Beltre is going crazy in the Rays-Rangers series. Why don't we ever get players like that?

 

The Rangers can have Beltre and that contract. I would never trust him long term after what happened in Seattle.

 

And damn, what was with that psycho head rubbing phobia? Major red flag there.

[jung]

I like Beltre but the money he is getting in Texas is off the charts. I recognize that as each year goes by (for whatever reason) the most current FA has the fattest contract but man that is more money than I would have given for Beltre under any circumstances. VMart is making very doable money in Detroit.

 

How do you value Justin Verlander on a 2010 contract at 12.5M per year and Lackey at 15M. That just does not make any sense. In fact if you look at the best pitchers in baseball they are horribly undervalued compared to their less talented counterparts or more likely, the less talented counterparts are way overpaid.

 

Some of these contracts do make me wonder about a cap in baseball because if you really do review them you come away convinced that:

a) something is really screwed up

this will one day come home to roost and we will find baseball in the same mess that basketball is in, owners across most of the league in desperate need of financial relief and players not really interested in resolving the issue all the way up to threatening full seasons being shut down. Pretty sure the NBA is stuck owning Charlotte because there were no takers going into the years just prior to the CBA and sure enough it looks like there is every chance that the NBA season will be blown out.

 

I could see how the NFL CBA was going to play itself out although you really have to wonder what would have happened without Bob Kraft. In the NBA negotiation, the owners have opened the books and many of them are struggling badly, yet there seems no interest in moving on the part of the players union.

[Interestedobserver]

The Braves have Bourn and don't need a center fielder. They also don't want to take on expensive players and will probably trade Jurgens this year. They won't give up Heyward, especially after a down year. The Mariners would want young controllable players if they ever traded Felix, not guys two years from FA. Unless the Sox could spin Ellsbury for prospects and package them. But it would take a HAUL to get Felix.

[SoxFanForsyth]

The Braves have Bourn and don't need a center fielder. They also don't want to take on expensive players and will probably trade Jurgens this year. They won't give up Heyward' date=' especially after a down year. The Mariners would want young controllable players if they ever traded Felix, not guys two years from FA. Unless the Sox could spin Ellsbury for prospects and package them. But it would take a HAUL to get Felix.[/quote']

 

Dude. I live in Nashville. I'm in the middle of Braves Country. Trust me. They want and need a big bat. Michael Bourn has hit like 12 HR in his career. They can move him or Ells to LF. Costanza (their other OF) made his MLB debut at the age of 27. He never slugged over .395 in his entire MiLB career. They need a 20-25 HR bat who they can stick in the middle of that order.

 

And the entire idea was to trade Ellsbury in a 3 way deal for Felix. That's what was being discussed, literally, the entire time, because we all know that the Mariners won't trade Felix for Ellsbury.

 

And it may not take as big of a haul to get Felix as many think. His contract just became very expensive (3 years, 60mm) because it was backloaded.