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I knew that this team would need some time to gel like the Heat. Too much talent, a couple of new players. Plus, the Sox had plenty of players that missed most of last year with injuries and are getting their legs back under them.

Once the focus on Crawford dies down and other players start assuming their roles, he will explode.

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I said this earlier but it wasn't so much of the content of the sport I was comparing. What I said was we'd end up like the heat, favorites to win it all and then start off slow. Eventually we'd get on fire and make the playoffs. Right now we're doing just as bad as the Heat did.
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I think it's a valid comparison, in terms of major changes and time needed to regenerate chemistry.

 

Chemistry is something that GMs happen on when they have success, and then too often get rid of it.

For example, Danny Ainge happened on great chemistry with his starting five and won a championship.

He then let his key bench player, Posey, go to free agency. He now has traded his defensive center, Perkins, one of his original starters. The Celtics haven't repeated their championship. And if they fail this year, it will likely be due to the center position more than anything else.

 

Epstein made two good signings last year in Beltre and VMart. The Sox did surprisingly well last year until injuries to Youkilis and Pedroia. But Theo loves AdGon and made a good trade for him. He let Vmart and Beltre go--two main RHd power hitters against lefties. Replaced by Crawford and AdGon, two left handed hitters. Upsetting the lineup balance. The result is teams are throwing left handed pitchers at them any time they can. This is bound to affect their hitting, because the platoon RHd hitters they have aren't as good as VMart and Beltre. And Crawford and AdGon aren't going to hit LHders as well.

 

Epstein has messed with the chemistry--the balance of hitters in the lineup. And the Sox are taking some time to adjust.

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I don't think there's really much "chemistry" in baseball.

In sports like basketball, soccer, and hockey, improving your own statistics can hurt the team.

In baseball, there is virtually no way to improve how you personally perform and hurt your team.

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I don't think there's really much "chemistry" in baseball.

In sports like basketball, soccer, and hockey, improving your own statistics can hurt the team.

In baseball, there is virtually no way to improve how you personally perform and hurt your team.

Not so sure I agree. How is chasing personal scoring records in those sports any different than the Willie Mays Hayes Syndrome - swinging for the fences for your own glory rather than helping the team by getting on base? In all cases, when the player is successful, it helps the team, but the issue, and what hurts the team, is the frequency of failure along the quest.

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Miami seems to have jelled as a team. The Celtics seem to have become unjelled--probably due to trading Perkins. I always thought their starting 5 had great balance. Ainge screwed the pooch trading Perkins, a starter, for two bench players. Funny, Ainge, a starter, was traded from the Celtics in the 80s for bench players: he made the same mistake as GM!

 

What you hope now is Theo hasn't screwed the pooch signing too many left handed hitters, while letting two right ones go.

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Miami Heat...still going strong in the playoffs...Red Sox..still going strong and will probablly sweep the Yankees tonight. A pretty good analogy I think.
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This actually isnt a bad comparison. When you look at the Heat, they brought in 3 all stars but left some holes at positons (PG,C). The red sox brought in Carl and A-Gon, maybe throw Jenks in there as a big free agent signing but left some holes (C,SP). The heat were once 9-8 about a 5th of the way through the season. The Sox are 21-20 about a 4th of the way through the season. The Heat eventually got it together found out how to use a team of all stars and became a top contender. The Sox will do the same come the all-star break. They'll figure out the line-up and they'll find a solution to the Dice-K, Lackey problem. We're gonna be fine.
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This actually isnt a bad comparison. When you look at the Heat' date=' they brought in 3 all stars but left some holes at positons (PG,C). The red sox brought in Carl and A-Gon, maybe throw Jenks in there as a big free agent signing but left some holes (C,SP). The heat were once 9-8 about a 5th of the way through the season. The Sox are 21-20 about a 4th of the way through the season. The Heat eventually got it together found out how to use a team of all stars and became a top contender. The Sox will do the same come the all-star break. They'll figure out the line-up and they'll find a solution to the Dice-K, Lackey problem. We're gonna be fine.[/quote']

 

I agree with most of this, but what could the solution to the Dice-K and Lackey problem be? Of course it would be nice if they simply pitched well, but I don't think many of us think that's going to happen.

 

Something has to happen though or they will be anchors holding this ship back all year long.

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Why would the fans of the red sox want the red sox to turn into some cocky ass bitches?

 

If you have two top 5 NBA players on the same team you have every right to be cocky. It was the media that made them so big, same goes with the Sox. Everyone thought we were going to win 100+ games.

  • 3 months later...
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Call me crazy but I see this team just like the Heat.

 

Everyone expected the Heat to start off really good they didn't just like the Sox.

 

After a while the Heat got back on track and started rolling over teams just like the Sox.

 

The Celtics lead the heat by a game and the Heat beat them late in the season to get a better seed. It's different in baseball but I can see the Sox pulling out a series win vs the Yankees late in September and take the division.

 

 

 

I'm pretty sure they're more similarities I can come up with just not at the moment.

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Put your money on the Braves, then. They are the Mavericks. A perennial playoff contender for a long stretch of years with little playoff success.

 

This also means the Phillies are destined to lose in the first round fo a young up-and-comer (Arizona).

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Put your money on the Braves, then. They are the Mavericks. A perennial playoff contender for a long stretch of years with little playoff success.

 

This also means the Phillies are destined to lose in the first round fo a young up-and-comer (Arizona).

 

As much as it pains me to agree with ORS, I believe the expected big guns will fall short and an upstart team with ascend to supremacy in MLB.

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I knew that this team would need some time to gel like the Heat. Too much talent, a couple of new players. Plus, the Sox had plenty of players that missed most of last year with injuries and are getting their legs back under them.

Once the focus on Crawford dies down and other players start assuming their roles, he will explode.

 

Their problem is PITCHING.

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Call me crazy but I see this team just like the Heat.

 

Everyone expected the Heat to start off really good they didn't just like the Sox.

 

After a while the Heat got back on track and started rolling over teams just like the Sox.

 

The Celtics lead the heat by a game and the Heat beat them late in the season to get a better seed. It's different in baseball but I can see the Sox pulling out a series win vs the Yankees late in September and take the division.

 

 

 

I'm pretty sure they're more similarities I can come up with just not at the moment.

 

Except that the Celtics had beaten the Heat each time in the regular season prior to that last meeting ... which falls in line with the Sox beating the Yanks for the better part of the regular season.

  • 5 weeks later...
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I said this earlier but it wasn't so much of the content of the sport I was comparing. What I said was we'd end up like the heat' date=' favorites to win it all and then start off slow. Eventually we'd get on fire and make the playoffs. Right now we're doing just as bad as the Heat did.[/quote']

 

We still need that fire to get into the playoffs.

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