Anti-Fantasy Draft and Discussion Thread

[TheKilo]

Here are the participants for the Talksox Anti-Fantasy Football League, or the TSAFFL:

 

TheKilo - BP Spillers

YH213

Italstallanion - Erin Andrews Likes it Raw

JasonBay44

Coco's Disciples

Boston22407

Redsoxfanforlife305 - ChargersBolts

Flynnatic

WhiskeyBreath

suns - For the Win

Y228

msubulldogs

Youker20

 

Here is the draft order, chosen randomly by a random number generator:

 

Redsoxfanforlife305

Italstallanion

TheKilo

JasonBay44

Y228

Boston22407

WhiskeyBreath

Youker20

msubulldogs

YH213

Coco's Disciples

Flynnatic

suns

yrtb

Divinity

 

Below are the draft rules/regulations:

 

1. RSFFL will officially be on the clock at 8:00 PM EST on Tuesday, September 14, 2010. At that time, he is free to make the first selection of the draft. Please do not make the selection until 8:00 PM.

 

2. Each subsequent pick will have a drafting window of 12 hours. In other words, Should RSFFL make his pick exactly at 8:00 PM, Italstallanion will have twelve hours to make his pick.

 

3. The draft clock will be suspended from 12:00 midnight to 8:00 AM every day. In other words, if RSFFL makes his pick at exactly 8:00 PM tonight, Italstallanion will have until 4:00 PM TOMORROW to make his selection. The clock stops at 12:00 AM and restarts at 8:00 AM.

 

4. We will be drafting the following positions:

QB

HB (2)

WR (4)

TE

RT

RG

C

LG

LT

DE (2)

DT (1 or 2, depending on 3/4 or 4/3 defense)

OLB (2)

ILB (1 or 2, depending on 3/4 or 4/3 defense)

CB (2)

FS

SS

K

P

KR

PR

 

5. Please look at the chart in the second post to see what players have been drafted before you make your selection.

 

6. At the conclusion of the exercise, we will vote on the best team.

 

7. Please bold your selection and specify position.

 

Good luck to all! If you have any questions feel free to ask.

[TheKilo]

[table]Team|QB|HB|HB|WR|WR|WR|WR|TE|RT|RG|C|LG|LT|DE|DE|DT|DT|OLB|OLB|ILB|ILB|CB|CB|FS|SS|K|P|KR/PR|Coach|BU 1|BU 2|

ChargersBolts|P Rivers|D Williams|P. Thomas|D. Jackson|A. Collie|D. Driver|L Murphy|V. Davis|R Diem|S. Neal|B Meester|E. Steinbach|J Gaither|J. Smith|A Brown|P Williams|T Kelly|S. Merriman|K. Bulluck|L. Fletcher||C Finnegan|S. Brown|C Hope|B. Meriweather|N. Kaeding|B Fields|D Hester|M Shanahan|B Scott|T Smith

EALIR|P Manning|R Rice|F Jones|B Marshall|W. Welker|S. Smith|L Evans|D. Clark|J. Stinchcomb|R. Lilja|S. O'Hara|A Faneca|B. McKinnie|R Mathis|J Abraham|T. Cody|J. Babineaux|B. Cushing|K. Rivers|E. Henderson||T. Newman|C. Tillman|J. Byrd|B. Pollard|D Akers|M McBriar|B Banks|J Harbaugh|S. Bradford|G Brackett

BP Spillers|T Brady|M. Forte|W. McGahee|M. Colston|R. White|J. Cotchery|J Nelson|A. Hernandez|S. Vollmer|J Sitton|D. Koppen|J. Scott|J. Staley|C. Long|C Wake|H Ngata||L Woodley|C. Greenway|K Dansby|J Vilma|C. Webster|N. Clements|N. Collins|J. Leonhard|S Janikowski|C Kluwe|D McCluster|D Capers|J Freeman|C Canty

JB44|D Brees|J. Charles|L. McCoy|M. Austin|M. Wallace|K. Britt|M Williams|H. Miller|M. Oher|T. Herremans|M. Pouncey|B Moore|D. Ferguson|C Campbell|L. Castillo|C. Hampton||J. Beason|K. Misi|L. Timmons|D. Harris|M. Jenkins|J. Greer|N. Allen|P. Chung|R Gould|D Sepulveda|L Stephens-Howling|M Smith|T Tebow|L Blount

Y228|A Rodgers|A Bradshaw|R. Bush|S. Holmes|H. Nicks|E. Royal|D Thomas|C. Cooley|R. Harris|C. Kuper|J. Brown|J. Smiley|M. McNeill|M. Spears|M Wright|J. Ratliff||D. Ware|J Harrison|C. Lofton|B James|J. Joseph|L. Hall|A. Rolle|R. Harper|N Rackers|T Morestead|L Washington|T Coughlin|K. Phillips|M Cassel

22407|M. Vick|C Johnson|M. Barber|T. Owens|J Ford|E Sanders|T Price|R. Gronkowski|D. Stewart|S Hutchinson|R. Kalil|L. Mankins|J. Brown|M. Williams|O. Umenyiora|R. Brace||E. Dumervil|S. Phillips|B. Urlacher|HB Blades|D. McCourty|J McCourty|E. Reed|D. Landry|M. Crosby|Z Mesko|B Tate|D LeBeau|D Dixon|D Woodhead

WB|Big Ben|J. Stewart|D. McFadden|C. Johnson|V. Jackson|D Bess|S Breaston|J. Gresham|D. Woody|M. Iupati|E Amano|C. Nicks|J. Long|K. Vanden Bosch|A. Odom|D. Dockett|S. Ellis|T Suggs|R. Maualuga|J. Laurinaitis||D Revis|D. Robinson|A. Bethea|M. Griffin|J Reed|B Moorman|T Ginn Jr|M Tomlin|L Bodden|J Jones

Y20|J. Cutler|F Gore|J. Best|G. Jennings|D. Bryant|J. Maclin|H Ward|J. Finley|M. Roos|J Blalock|M Birk|K Kosier|R Clady|J Pierre Paul|I Idonije|G. McCoy|K Gregg|T. Banta-Cain||R. McClain|DJ Williams|A. Cromartie|I. Taylor|K. Rhodes|L. Landry|R. Bironas|S. Lechler|S. Logan|J Fisher|M Sanchez|

msu|Matt Ryan|Rashard Mendenhall|J. Forsett|Anquan Boldin|Dwyane Bowe|M. Manningham|G. Camarillo|D Keller|G. Cherilus|J. Spitz|N Hardwick|Jahri Evans|David Diehl|Jared Allen|R. Edwards|Kevin Williams||C. Gocong|Stewart Bradley|Jerod Mayo|Nick Barnett|Antoine Winfield|Eric Wright|S. Jones|Adrian Wilson|R Lindell|B Maynard|J Arenas|A Reid|D Garrard|T Williams

YH213|E. Manning|S. Greene|L. McClain|M. Crabtree|M. Sims-Walker|R. Meachem|K Walter|T. Moeaki|R. Okung|D. Joseph|J Faine|K. Dielman|J. Peters|C. Jenkins|R. Geathers|V. Wilfork||T. Hali|M. Lawson|B. Ruud|AJ Hawk|B. Flowers|A. Talib|T. Mays|Troy Polamalu|M Prater|D Colquitt|D. Sproles|B Belichick|C McCoy|J Edelman

CD|J. Flacco|S. Jackson|L. Tomlinson|L. Fitzgerald|P. Harvin|D. Henderson|B Edwards|B. Celek|V. Carey|D. Lutui|J Sullivan|C. Kemoeatu|J. Gross|D. Freeney|I. Olshansky|B. Raji||A. Spencer|D. Smith|P. Willis|D. Ryans|A. Samuel|V. Davis|G. Goldson|Q. Mikell|N Folk|B Kern|D Amendola|K Wisenhunt|R Fitzpatrick|T Alualu

Flynn|K. Kolb|C. Benson|R Matthews|A. Johnson|S. Smith|S Johnson|J Shipley|J. Witten|E. Wood|C. Snee|N. Mangold|B. Bulaga|S. Baker|R. Seymour|J. Tuck|J. Odrick|R. Starks|A. Curry|G. Hayes|B. Spikes||C. Woodson|L. McKelvin|E. Thomas|B. Sanders|R Succup|A Lee|J Cribbs|Rex Ryan|C Spencer|J Clausen

suns|M. Schaub|CJ Spiller|P. Hillis|R. Moss|P. Garcon|L. Moore|M Massaquoi |J. Shockey|R. Lauvao|L. Davis|J. Saturday|B. Waters|M. Light|J. Peppers|K. Coleman|A. Haynesworth|T. Harris|M. Roth|D. Bowens|S. Fujita||N. Asomugha|J. Haden|D. Sharper|T. Ward|R. Longwell|D Zastudil|C Stuckey|Rob Ryan|B Watson|L Vickers

yrtb|K. Orton|Ad. Peterson|A. Foster|S. Rice|B. Lloyd|M. Floyd|J Gaffney|Z Miller|J. Otah|H. Dahl|A. Gurode|B. Grubbs|J. Thomas|T. Cole|S. Ellis|S. Rogers||C. Matthews|B. Orakpo|L. Tatupu|P. Posluszny|D. Rodgers-Cromartie|T. Porter|OJ Atogwe|T. Branch|D Carpenter|M Scifres|M Mariani|M McCarthy|L. Weaver|V. Young

Divinity|Tony Romo|M. Jones-Drew|M. Turner|R. Wayne|C. Ochocinco|J. Knox|S Moss|A. Gates|T Williams|L. Vazquez|A. Mack|A Levitre|C. Johnson|W. Smith|W. Hayes|N. Suh|K Jenkins|L. Briggs|C. Pace|R. Lewis||C. Bailey|D. Hall|E. Berry|Y. Bell|S. Gostkowski|D Jones|E Weems|S Payton|D. McNabb|S Cooper[/table]

[italstallianion]

I have a few questions based on what transpired during the baseball redraft.

 

1. Can there be trades?

 

2. What officially happens when a person is skipped? (ie the next person can pick, but what happens when it's that person's turn again and they still have a pick to make up?)

 

3. What will the process be to determine who has the best team (granted, we don't need to know that now)

 

4. Can we message each other our picks and have the other poster make our pick in the event that we will be out when it's our turn?

 

Edit: 5. Should we also have a "Clubhouse" Thread where we can post our teams in a consolidated fashion (ie each person posts their teams as they are being constructed, rather than having to sift through however many pages this thread turns out to be)

[RedSoxfanforlife305]

So just to make sure we're picking people that we think will be good in 5 years?

[suns]

I'm not in the draft order...

[yankees228]

So just to make sure we're picking people that we think will be good in 5 years?

 

I could be wrong, but I think 3 years was decided on.

[RedSoxfanforlife305]

I'm not in the draft order...

 

Lol did you sign up?

[RedSoxfanforlife305]

I could be wrong' date=' but I think 3 years was decided on.[/quote']

 

Thanks.

[suns]

Lol did you sign up?

 

Yes

[RedSoxfanforlife305]

With the frist pick of the 2010 Anti-fantasy draft ChargersBolts pick QB Phillip Rivers

 

Applause*

[italstallianion]

Peyton Manning, QB

[yrtb]

I'm in if anybody drops out

[italstallianion]

I'm in if anybody drops out

 

 

Screw that, I want to win this one.

[italstallianion]

It's also Kilo's turn, assuming that the order isn't restructured to fit Suns.

[RedSoxfanforlife305]

We can just put Suns last.

[suns]

I was suprised RSFFL picked Phillip Rivers, but then I remembered he was a chargers fan.

[RedSoxfanforlife305]

I was suprised RSFFL picked Phillip Rivers' date=' but then I remembered he was a chargers fan.[/quote']

 

3 or 5 years from now he will be more dominant than he is now. Extremely underrated QB. Let's not keep this for discussion here though. I don't want to ruin the draft thread discussing this.

[italstallianion]

Geez, I thought that this would have gone faster...

[TheKilo]

I have a few questions based on what transpired during the baseball redraft.

 

1. Can there be trades?

 

No trading of picks or players

 

2. What officially happens when a person is skipped? (ie the next person can pick, but what happens when it's that person's turn

again and they still have a pick to make up?)

 

Yes, the person makes the pick upon re-entering the thread

 

3. What will the process be to determine who has the best team (granted, we don't need to know that now)

 

Some kind of vote, well figure it out

 

4. Can we message each other our picks and have the other poster make our pick in the event that we will be out when it's our turn?

 

Excellent point, a proxy system should absolutely be used in those cases. I encourage everyone to send a regular a list of your picks if you are going to be away.

 

Edit: 5. Should we also have a "Clubhouse" Thread where we can post our teams in a consolidated fashion (ie each person posts their teams as they are being constructed, rather than having to sift through however many pages this thread turns out to be)

 

Good call, start it up

[TheKilo]

Suns will pick after flynnatic, and yrtb can pick after him if he wants in

[TheKilo]

I had numerous draft strategies for what I would do depending on where my draft slot fell in the first round. I had already talked myself into not drafting a QB because I am a believer in building from the interior on out. That changed when I got the third draft selection and the first two picks came about.

 

The BP Spillers are proud to select a guy who I was sure would have gone first or second in this draft, especially considering the board we are on.

 

With the third selection, we are pleased to welcome Tom Brady, QB to the team.

[TheKilo]

I like the Rivers and Manning picks. the Rivers pick may have been a homer pick but you can't dispute Rivers as a top 5 QB right now. He led the Chargers to the conference title game on a torn ACL for crying out loud.

 

Where things will get interesting is when people pick non-skill positions, IMO.

[TheKilo]

JB44 is on the clock And has until 820 pm to pick

[italstallianion]

I had numerous draft strategies for what I would do depending on where my draft slot fell in the first round. I had already talked myself into not drafting a QB because I am a believer in building from the interior on out. That changed when I got the third draft selection and the first two picks came about.

The BP Spillers are proud to select a guy who I was sure would have gone first or second in this draft, especially considering the board we are on.

 

With the third selection, we are pleased to welcome Tom Brady, QB to the team.

 

 

I agree. I'm used to picking a RB first (as one usually would in fantasy football), but I didn't expect to get the 2nd pick and I didn't expect the first pick to be Phil Rivers. At that point, I figured that I had a better chance of getting a decent RB in the 2nd round than a top level QB, as we all knew that Brady would be picked almost immediately, and that Manning and a few other QB's wouldn't make it back either.

 

Any bets on what the next pick is?

[TheKilo]

I pretty much know what the next pick will be (although I do want to stress not naming guys who haven't been picked yet).

 

I have to question the methodology of wanting to pick a RB first... In my mind there's no more overrated position in football and I don't plan on drafting one for a really long time. There's only two or three backs in the entire league who I'd spend a first round pick on and I wouldn't spend a top 10 pick on them.

[italstallianion]

I pretty much know what the next pick will be (although I do want to stress not naming guys who haven't been picked yet).

 

I have to question the methodology of wanting to pick a RB first... In my mind there's no more overrated position in football and I don't plan on drafting one for a really long time. There's only two or three backs in the entire league who I'd spend a first round pick on and I wouldn't spend a top 10 pick on them.

 

 

 

Again, I agree, but the problem is, when everyone else is drafting a RB in the first round, you almost have to join them or else you're going to be at a disadvantage (depending on your draft position of course, otherwise you can cherry pick people off of the top of other positions) That also depends on your confidence in your digging abilities.

 

Anyway, I'm not sure if one of my questions was answered. What I meant to ask was, let's say someone misses their pick. And another round goes by without them making up their (previous) pick. Obviously, once the 12 hours elapses it'll be the next person's turn, but when it's that person's turn again (in the next round), do we automatically skip them until they make up the pick, or do we give them the 12 hours before skipping that person for a second time.

 

In addition, can the person that was skipped chime in at any time with his makeup pick(s)?

[TheKilo]

If two rounds pass the player is automatically skipped.

 

Also, this draft snakes (just to be 100% clear)

[yankees228]

I pretty much know what the next pick will be (although I do want to stress not naming guys who haven't been picked yet).

 

I have to question the methodology of wanting to pick a RB first... In my mind there's no more overrated position in football and I don't plan on drafting one for a really long time. There's only two or three backs in the entire league who I'd spend a first round pick on and I wouldn't spend a top 10 pick on them.

 

To the first part, I'm crossing my fingers that JB is skipped.

 

EDIT: There goes that lol.

[Jasonbay44]

Ill take Drew Brees, QB.

[yankees228]

I believe that QB is the most important position, so I definitely planned to take one with my first pick. Granted, it would have been difficult to choose if I didn't have a top five pick, but thankfully, I just snuck in there. I understand that most feel the elite QB class contains only four (the four that were selected), but I think that groups includes five, or is about to include five.

 

Aaron Rodgers, QB

 

Edited to bold the name, not to change my pick.