7/16 vs Texas

[Spudboy]

f***.

[DaJOhan94]

alright bottom of the ninth hopefully big papi will have a chance to bat and show us why he won the home run derby

[RedSoxfanforlife305]

Lol even if Ortiz hits a home run it wouldn't matter. We'd still need 3 more runs. Chances of that happening are real slim.

[DaJOhan94]

yeah one can only dream for the tying grand slam haha

[Lester82]

This game sucks as bad as people that believe in gamethread mojo. Sorry.

[RedSoxfanforlife305]

No comment...

[ORS]

Get these f***ing bums out of here! PATTERSON! WHAT A f***ING JOKE! Only these scrubs can give Molina..the slowest guy in the history of MLB... and Theo just sits there on his thumbs doing nothing..waiting for all of our guys to get healthy.. guess what Theo? Even when they call come back we need help in the pen and a leftifielder.. Cameron is toast...he is barely able to play 3x a week... By the time everyone gets healthy we will be 8 games out of WC... missed a Golden opportunity tonight...but that is what you get from scrubs like Patterson/Cash/Nava/Zubront/Cabrera/ pathetic Theo is doing nothing with the resources at his disposal.. Nice offseason Theo had with Lackey and Scutaro...he signed two f***ing bums.

Dude, you are so right. I have friend, of my grandmother's dog walker, the girl who knows the dog walker's boyfriend, well, anyway, she said Theo was, literally, sitting on his hands. No really, he had his thumbs right in his rectum. Good call, man.

[db41]

Yikes, I take it we lost?

 

A mate in Wisconsin sent out some Sheboygan brats. Cheers.

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[jacksonianmarch]

I have noticed a few things in my time as a fan. After big injuries, teams seem to unify and play better for a little while, but after a week or two, the team loses that momentum and the players revert to their norms. Now, after the ASB and facing good talent, the offense is really 4 guys deep and their spot starting pitching is either inexperienced or past their prime (Doubront and Wake). Until the sox get Pedroia, VMart, and Ellsbury back, their offense is gonna be very much reliant on the middle of their order.

 

In terms of VMart, it sounds like he could be back offensively in a week or so as long as the pain subsides and could be back behind the dish in 2 weeks if everything goes well. Buchholz should make his next start next week. Pedroia comes out of the boot in 2 weeks and will probably need a week of working out before he can go on a rehab assignment, so it sounds like he might be 3.5 to 4 weeks away from returning to the sox lineup. I heard Vtek is a week behind that schedule. From the sounds of it, Ellsbury should be ready to play in rehab games soon. So if you figure that your team can get completely healthy for the last 6 weeks of the season, then maybe, just maybe you guys could make the playoffs.

[Yaz Sideburn]

the red sox main issue is their starting pitching. if they were healthy it would have been beckett and buchholz pitching and we wouldn't have to go to the bullpen in the first 5 innings and have our worst relievers give the game away

 

the offense is fine, we're still scoring about 5 runs a game even with all the injuries

[Dipre]

Jacko's perception oif reality when it pertains to the Red Sox is always just a little geared towards the negative.

 

The team keeps hitting, but the pitching, like Yaz said, (Who's obviously Dutchy because he disagrees with something Jacko said), the team has dealt with the "rash of injuries" all season long and has stayed in the top of most offensive categories, the one true black hole we currently sport is Catcher, and V-Mart will be back soon.

 

The SP sorely needs Buch and Beckett, or a lot of back-to-back losses are in store with "Bad Wake" and Doubront pitching back-to-back.

[jacksonianmarch]

Having Beckett and Buchholz back will certainly help, but now you are running into good pitching with a wounded lineup, so it will start to show. When your bruised up lineup went into TB, you got swept and scored under 4 runs per game in the series, then you got to score more than 4 per game vs the O's and more than 7 per game vs the Jays. Pedroia and VMart got hurt in SF, and since then, the only good team you played was the Rays and you lost 4 of 5 to them. Now, you get to face the Rangers, who actually pitch well and have lost 2 in a row, then you go out to the west coast and face King Felix, then off to ANA and DET, with both teams having good starting pitching. The timing of your injuries in terms of teams played couldnt have been better pre-ASB. But if your guys dont heal soon, which is sounds like you are a few weeks away in some cases, then the lineup will get exposed

[jacksonianmarch]

Jacko's perception oif reality when it pertains to the Red Sox is always just a little geared towards the negative.

 

The team keeps hitting, but the pitching, like Yaz said, (Who's obviously Dutchy because he disagrees with something Jacko said), the team has dealt with the "rash of injuries" all season long and has stayed in the top of most offensive categories, the one true black hole we currently sport is Catcher, and V-Mart will be back soon.

 

The SP sorely needs Buch and Beckett, or a lot of back-to-back losses are in store with "Bad Wake" and Doubront pitching back-to-back.

 

Imperial and Chamomile, and I was right. I speculated about Yaz, but his posting style is different, so I drop that speculation for now.

 

Then again, you talking about reality is HILARIOUS. You have had your head up your ass all season and are militantly defending everything about the sox. Have you lost touch with reality? You dont think that over the next 4 weeks that the sox offensive injuries will be exposed? If you dont, then there is a bridge I'd like to sell you

[Dipre]

Dude, you've been anticipating the lineup getting exposed since, like, May.

 

Getting shut down a couple times by good pitching isn't "getting exposed", it's the nature of the game.

 

Did the Yankees offense get "exposed" when Felix shut them down?

[jacksonianmarch]

I am loving this. Militant Dipre is back! No, sometimes you get handled. But you just got handled by Colby Lewis and Tommy Hunter, and get to face the teeth of the Rangers staff in Lee and Wilson next. We'll see if you are singing the same tune when you get to Anaheim and are double digits back of the Yanks. At this point, I would assume you are rooting for NY to beat up on TB to stay in the hunt, right?

[jacksonianmarch]

BTW, Detroit is tied with you guys in the L column for the WC. There is a chance that after your series with them, you are third in the WC race

[Yaz Sideburn]

Having Beckett and Buchholz back will certainly help' date=' but now you are running into good pitching with a wounded lineup, so it will start to show. When your bruised up lineup went into TB, you got swept and scored under 4 runs per game in the series, then you got to score more than 4 per game vs the O's and more than 7 per game vs the Jays. Pedroia and VMart got hurt in SF, and since then, the only good team you played was the Rays and you lost 4 of 5 to them. Now, you get to face the Rangers, who actually pitch well and have lost 2 in a row, then you go out to the west coast and face King Felix, then off to ANA and DET, with both teams having good starting pitching. The timing of your injuries in terms of teams played couldnt have been better pre-ASB. But if your guys dont heal soon, which is sounds like you are a few weeks away in some cases, then the lineup will get exposed[/quote']

 

i doubt there's another lineup in baseball, who even when healthy, would be scoring 5 runs a game facing the starting pitching the red sox have faced this month (price, neimann, romero, hunter, lewis). the offense hasn't been healthy all year, yet they continue to be the class of baseball

 

as for the rangers, i didn't realize how good their pitching was. with the acquisition of cliff lee, they might be the team to beat in the al

[Dipre]

Reality:

 

The Red Sox have paced the Majors in offense most of 2010.

 

Jacko perception:

 

Since the offseason, the "Sox are going to have trouble scoring runs!!!!" drum number one beater.

 

Reality:

 

The Red Sox have hit good pitching quite proficiently.

 

Jacko perception:

 

The Red Sox can't hit good pitching.

 

Reality:

 

The Red Sox offense has been middle-of-the-order reliant all season long, with the scrubs making some timely contributions.

 

Jacko perception:

 

The Red Sox offense just now became middle-of-the-order reliant.

 

Yeah someone obviously has their head up their ass here. But what do i know? I just look at the reality of things instead of trying to predict the future and make stuff up, which Jacko seems to find hilarious (because making stuff up and trying to predict the future is his forte).

[Yaz Sideburn]

funny, i didn't see this guy coming into red sox game threads and mentioning the loss column every day a week ago...

[jacksonianmarch]

i doubt there's another lineup in baseball, who even when healthy, would be scoring 5 runs a game facing the starting pitching the red sox have faced this month (price, neimann, romero, hunter, lewis). the offense hasn't been healthy all year, yet they continue to be the class of baseball

 

as for the rangers, i didn't realize how good their pitching was. with the acquisition of cliff lee, they might be the team to beat in the al

 

We always play them tough. Lee will make that a bit more difficult, but we can mash everyone after Lee

[jacksonianmarch]

Reality:

 

The Red Sox have paced the Majors in offense most of 2010.

 

Jacko perception:

 

Since the offseason, the "Sox are going to have trouble scoring runs!!!!" drum number one beater.

 

Reality:

 

The Red Sox have hit good pitching quite proficiently.

 

Jacko perception:

 

The Red Sox can't hit good pitching.

 

Reality:

 

The Red Sox offense has been middle-of-the-order reliant all season long, with the scrubs making some timely contributions.

 

Jacko perception:

 

The Red Sox offense just now became middle-of-the-order reliant.

 

Yeah someone obviously has their head up their ass here. But what do i know? I just look at the reality of things instead of trying to predict the future and make stuff up, which Jacko seems to find hilarious (because making stuff up and trying to predict the future is his forte).

 

sour grapes and strawman all in one. Keep at it Dipre. Lemme guess, when the sox fall 10 games out you are gonna start bombing other sox fans who see this for what it is becoming.

[Dipre]

If the truth can be considered sour grapes, then i have a serious case of sour grapes. You also seem to not know the meaning of strawman. Look it up.

[jacksonianmarch]

No substance again. Keep em coming!

[db41]

Did you guys not get the beer and brats I sent you? Relax. It is what it is.

[jacksonianmarch]

Did you guys not get the beer and brats I sent you? Relax. It is what it is.

 

The beer and brats looked ridiculous. With a little kraut and a toasted bun. Instant food coma. mmmmmm

[Dipre]

You want substance?

 

It's all in the stats, which you conveniently ignore when it doesn't support your argument (as in, most of the time).

 

Let's check out the Sox slash stats month per month:

 

May: .815 OPS

 

June: .878 OPS

 

July: .774 OPS

 

Through the "rash of injuries" the Sox have maintained one of the best cumulative month-by-month OPS in the majors, now you can make up as much s*** as you want, but it is what it is, and the stats don't lie. Ignoring the stats is what i would consider "lack of substance".

[Yaz Sideburn]

We always play them tough. Lee will make that a bit more difficult' date=' but we can mash everyone after Lee[/quote']

 

the yankees offense hasn't been as good as the red sox this year. not against good pitching, not with runners in scoring position, not overall.

[italstallianion]

Reality:

 

The Red Sox have paced the Majors in offense most of 2010.

 

Jacko perception:

 

Since the offseason, the "Sox are going to have trouble scoring runs!!!!" drum number one beater.

 

Reality:

 

The Red Sox have hit good pitching quite proficiently.

 

Jacko perception:

 

The Red Sox can't hit good pitching.

 

Reality:

 

The Red Sox offense has been middle-of-the-order reliant all season long, with the scrubs making some timely contributions.

 

Jacko perception:

 

The Red Sox offense just now became middle-of-the-order reliant.

 

Yeah someone obviously has their head up their ass here. But what do i know? I just look at the reality of things instead of trying to predict the future and make stuff up, which Jacko seems to find hilarious (because making stuff up and trying to predict the future is his forte).

 

 

 

 

Actually, Jacko's misguided perception wasn't that the Red Sox couldn't hit good pitching, it was that the Red Sox successes were ALWAYS due to bad days, hidden injuries, and mistakes by the good pitchers, rather than giving any credit to the Red Sox hitters.

[yankees228]

The fact that the Red Sox aren't even getting shut down offensively with the lineup they're putting out there right now speaks to how good their offense really is.

[Dipre]

Actually' date=' Jacko's misguided perception wasn't that the Red Sox couldn't hit good pitching, it was that the Red Sox successes were ALWAYS due to bad days, hidden injuries, and mistakes by the good pitchers, rather than giving any credit to the Red Sox hitters.[/quote']

 

Actually, no.

 

He spent the entire off-season and the early part of the season beating the "Sox can't hit good pitching" drum.