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Is your point that the AL is a vastly superior offensive league despite their league ERAs being similar? Doesn't that fly in the face of your whole adherence to the statistical record?

 

The amount of runs scored is the amount of runs scored. It feels like you are about to slip down the "quiet .900 OPS" slope.

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Oh' date=' so i "worship" the GM because i don't find reasons to bitch, whine and moan about every move ever while trying to ascertain the fact that i'm a better [b']talent evaluator than the GM of a ML team who has won two WS rings, and has built a consistent 95-game winner for the past decade.[/b] Then worship i do. It was a bad trade, but the Arroyo-Beckett comparison is troubling because it's ridiculous.
What are you talkin bout Willis!! Who said that they were better talent evaluators than the FO? I said that I liked the trade when it was made, but it turned out to be a very bad trade. Just because I liked it doesn't make the FO free from criticism. We were both wrong, but it's not my job to be judged by these moves. It is their responsibility. Is it 20-20 QBing? Yes it is, but that's how moves are evaluated... after the fact, not at the time of the move. I'm just stating a simple fact that it was a bad trade. I'm not saying that I could do a better job. I can't play 3B in the majors either, but I know that it was a bad play on that Saturday against the Yankees when Beltre made that great stab (which I could never do) and threw the ball into RF trying to get a force play on a runner who was running with the pitch. Pointing out that the FO made a bad trade or move is fair criticism. I don't know why that should be met with a retort asking if the I could do a better job.
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Is your point that the AL is a vastly superior offensive league despite their league ERAs being similar? Doesn't that fly in the face of your whole adherence to the statistical record?

 

The amount of runs scored is the amount of runs scored. It feels like you are about to slip down the "quiet .900 OPS" slope.

 

Never!!111!!!11.

 

There are other ways to prove that the similarities in ERA are not neccesarily a by-product of similarities in overall league offenses:

 

AL/NL OPS+ 07-08-09: 100/94.

 

It's simply because of the pitcher hitting. Runs are runs. Bur facing the pitcher instead of the DH is a boon to any NL hurler.

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I think rhet did.

 

Yup. He said he was a "better evaluator of defensive talent" than the Sox FO.

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What are you talkin bout Willis!! Who said that they were better talent evaluators than the FO? I said that I liked the trade when it was made' date=' but it turned out to be a very bad trade. Just because I liked it doesn't make the FO free from criticism. We were both wrong, but it's not my job to be judged by these moves. It is their responsibility. Is it 20-20 QBing? Yes it is, but that's how moves are evaluated... after the fact, not at the time of the move. I'm just stating a simple fact that it was a bad trade. I'm not saying that I could do a better job. I can't play 3B in the majors either, but I know that it was a bad play on that Saturday against the Yankees when Beltre made that great stab (which I could never do) and threw the ball into RF trying to get a force play on a runner who was running with the pitch. Pointing out that the FO made a bad trade or move is fair criticism. I don't know why that should be met with a retort asking if the I could do a better job.[/quote']

 

Honest question: Do you think you're a better evaluator of defensive performance than the Red Sox front office?

 

Yes.

 

You were saying? <_>

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:lol: You mean this isn't all about me?:lol:
But my point stands. Criticism of the FO shouldn't be met wtih a question challenging the person to state whether they could do a better job. Just sayin.
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But my point stands. Criticism of the FO shouldn't be met wtih a question challenging the person to state whether they could do a better job. Just sayin.

 

But the person is saying they could do a better job. Point rebuked. B)

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But the person is saying they could do a better job. Point rebuked. B)
The challenging question that resulted in the response never should have been asked. Rebuke point rebuked.:D
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The challenging question that resulted in the response never should have been asked. Rebuke point rebuked.:D

 

The question was asked because of the clear implications the OP had aired, which resulted in the question above mentioned. It's a foot-meet-mouth scenario. Rebuke of the rebuke point rebuked.

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http://pilar.homelinux.org/~mcphailb/photos/galleries/01/20021231/bigimages/DSC00275.jpg

 

http://pix.motivatedphotos.com/2008/9/1/633558765892568224-Excuseme.jpg

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The question was asked because of the clear implications the OP had aired' date=' which resulted in the question above mentioned. It's a foot-meet-mouth scenario. Rebuke of the rebuke point rebuked.[/quote']That's a triple rebuke. In most jurisdictions, that results in a reversion to the original point which was mine. You are now in a conundrum, aren't you?
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The question was asked because of the clear implications the OP had aired

 

If the OP airs and nobody is there to see it, does a carrot become orange?

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That's a triple rebuke. In most jurisdictions' date=' that results in a reversion to the original point which was mine. You are now in a conundrum, aren't you?[/quote']

 

It's not circular logic if you haven't reverted to the initial point, which hasn't happened here.

 

If the OP airs and nobody is there to see it' date=' does a carrot become orange?[/quote']

 

It becomes carrot juice.

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