Ellsbury still in pain

[rhet]

I'm just not a fan of people making up s***.

 

I'm not a fan of people denying facts.

 

Go find a scouting report on Beltre before you prove beyond all doubt that you're an ass.

[Dipre]

You obviously know more about Beltre's mechanics and mindset that Terry Francona. I apologize, i forgot you managed the Sox through the TV.

[a700hitter]

Cameron is out again and seeing a doctor. We knew this would happen sooner or later with this abdominal injury. With Ellsbury still out, I hope we don't go into another flat period.

 

http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/redsox/extras/extra_bases/

[jacksonianmarch]

The pain is on the other side but it is general pain? Generalized means pain all over. If he's got pain in his abdomen again, then they might need to shut him down. Like I said before, this tear doesnt heal well on its own and the likelihood is, Cameron is gonna need some surgery. Recovery time is 6-8 weeks, which puts him coming back in August. Might be better to just bite the bullet and get some healthy time out of him rather than having him rest for a week every month and be less than 100%.

[TheMino007]

With Ellsbury being back on the DL and with his health being a question for much more of the season, along with the fact that Cameron is 37 years old and has been hurt all year has had me wondering if the team should start looking to add another OF. McDonnel has shined at times, but he is really a 5th OF and by now we know what we see is what we get with Hall. Hermida shouldn't be playing this many games and his defense is a liability out there.

[jacksonianmarch]

I wouldnt be surprised at all if the sox look for a fix in the OF. David DeJesus is available, and he fits the defensive mantra of the team, especially out of LF, and he can play CF. He could also lead off, moving Scutaro down in the order where he might be more effective. But DeJesus has an option for 2011 at $6 million, which is right about what he is worth, so the Royals could try to bleed more out of him than he may be worth in a trade.

[example1]

I wouldnt be surprised at all if the sox look for a fix in the OF. David DeJesus is available' date=' and he fits the defensive mantra of the team, especially out of LF, and he can play CF. He could also lead off, moving Scutaro down in the order where he might be more effective. But DeJesus has an option for 2011 at $6 million, which is right about what he is worth, so the Royals could try to bleed more out of him than he may be worth in a trade.[/quote']

 

I was thinking about this yesterday. DeJesus would be an interesting addition to this club and a $6m option isn't prohibative for this club to add a legitimate backup OF.

[DirtDog331724632256]

I dont want ellsbury back until he is 100%.

he should take all the time he needs to come back, after all it is a long season

[Spudboy]

I just read that Hermida has been put on the DL and that Reddick has been called up.

 

Lovely.

 

Edit: The report that I read on overthewall.com NOW says Hermida is likely going on the DL.

 

But ther si speculation that Lowell is gone. Either DFA or traded.

 

Youk is playing 3rd tonight. According to Boston.com.

 

Will V-mart be at 1st?

[Dojji]

defnitely need to look at trading for an OF. It looks like we really screwed up Reddick for the year with the upsy-downishness.

[Jasonbay44]

I just read that Hermida has been put on the DL and that Reddick has been called up.

 

Lovely.

 

Edit: The report that I read on overthewall.com NOW says Hermida is likely going on the DL.

 

But ther si speculation that Lowell is gone. Either DFA or traded.

 

Youk is playing 3rd tonight. According to Boston.com.

 

Will V-mart be at 1st?

 

I heard that Atchison got sent down, so for now, Hermida is still on the roster and not on the DL, but I wouldn't be surprised if that changed by tomorrow.

 

Also, V-Mart is starting at first.

[jacksonianmarch]

Jacoby Ellsbury headed out to Los Angeles on Tuesday for a second opinion on his broken ribs.

 

Ellsbury has a meeting scheduled with Dr. Lewis Yocum and the two will try to craft a rehab plan. The speedy outfielder has played in only nine games this season. He probably won't be back anytime soon.

[DirtDog331724632256]

I think that Scoot has really helped pick up the slack that Ells left.

Scoot has shown he can bat lead off

[Dojji]

I think it's at least time to call a few teams to see what we can get for an additional MLB-caliber outfielder.

[a700hitter]

Jacko, what's your medical opinion. How long does it take for hairline fractures of the ribs to heal. It's been about 8 weeks. I would think that any non-displaced hairline fracture would have healed by now. Any trauma to the surrounding tissue should also have greatly subsided by now. What could be the problem at this point?

[Dojji]

But it hasn't been 8 weeks. Ellsbury tried a comeback a couple weeks ago. If he's reinjured something...

[a700hitter]

But it hasn't been 8 weeks. Ellsbury tried a comeback a couple weeks ago. If he's reinjured something...

Let the medical professional opine.

[Dojji]

It's a pertinent bit of info, so it should be added to the mix a medical professional should be considering.

[a700hitter]

It's a pertinent bit of info' date=' so it should be added to the mix a medical professional should be considering.[/quote']I think Jacko knows that Ellsbury came back in the interim. Duh!

[a700hitter]

This breaking news just in. The doctor who examined Ellsbury found Drew's missing vagina. Drew has not been able to find it since Spring Training. He is reportedly very happy that it has been found, and he has asked that it be returned.

[Dipre]

This breaking news just in. The doctor who examined Ellsbury found Drew's missing vagina. Drew has not been able to find it since Spring Training. He is reportedly very happy that it has been found' date=' and he has asked that it be returned.[/quote']

 

"Everyday Drew" does not approve of this post.

[jacksonianmarch]

Jacko' date=' what's your medical opinion. How long does it take for hairline fractures of the ribs to heal. It's been about 8 weeks. I would think that any non-displaced hairline fracture would have healed by now. Any trauma to the surrounding tissue should also have greatly subsided by now. What could be the problem at this point?[/quote']

 

Well, rib fractures are tricky. Think about it this way. If you fractured your ankle, but continued to move it, how would it heal?

 

You cannot splint the ribs, which is the biggest problem. You can splint a wrist, an arm, a leg, etc. But you have to breath, making it trickier. Also, coming back too soon could have set him a bit back, especially diving, which could have cracked the healing callus of the bone, which is completely undetectable. Regardless, there are people who have pain for a year after the injury, there are people who are back to work in 2-3 weeks. It is all based upon how they healed and the person's pain tolerance. Most people with cracked ribs can return to strenuous activity in 6-8 weeks. But most anyone who does can still feel SOMETHING. The questions are....

 

1.) Did Ellsbury re-injure the area? Now I know the CT showed healing fractures, but did the healing get disrupted? Possible.

 

2.) Did Ellsbury just not give it enough time? He may have rushed it back, he might have still been healing and could be back in a couple weeks.

 

3.) What is Ellsbury's pain threshold and does he need to be completely pain free to play? If that is the case, then he could be out for awhile, especially when his game is predicated on sliding.

 

So there is a very tangential answer to your question, essentially boiling down to...it could be a couple weeks, or he could be out for most of the season depending on his pain tolerance

[a700hitter]

"Everyday Drew" does not approve of this post.

I'm the one that started calling him Everyday JD.

[a700hitter]

Well, rib fractures are tricky. Think about it this way. If you fractured your ankle, but continued to move it, how would it heal?

 

You cannot splint the ribs, which is the biggest problem. You can splint a wrist, an arm, a leg, etc. But you have to breath, making it trickier. Also, coming back too soon could have set him a bit back, especially diving, which could have cracked the healing callus of the bone, which is completely undetectable. Regardless, there are people who have pain for a year after the injury, there are people who are back to work in 2-3 weeks. It is all based upon how they healed and the person's pain tolerance. Most people with cracked ribs can return to strenuous activity in 6-8 weeks. But most anyone who does can still feel SOMETHING. The questions are....

 

1.) Did Ellsbury re-injure the area? Now I know the CT showed healing fractures, but did the healing get disrupted? Possible.

 

2.) Did Ellsbury just not give it enough time? He may have rushed it back, he might have still been healing and could be back in a couple weeks.

 

3.) What is Ellsbury's pain threshold and does he need to be completely pain free to play? If that is the case, then he could be out for awhile, especially when his game is predicated on sliding.

 

So there is a very tangential answer to your question, essentially boiling down to...it could be a couple weeks, or he could be out for most of the season depending on his pain tolerance

Thanks Jacko. With this princess, they had better think about getting DeJesus.

[Spudboy]

Well, rib fractures are tricky. Think about it this way. If you fractured your ankle, but continued to move it, how would it heal?

 

You cannot splint the ribs, which is the biggest problem. You can splint a wrist, an arm, a leg, etc. But you have to breath, making it trickier. Also, coming back too soon could have set him a bit back, especially diving, which could have cracked the healing callus of the bone, which is completely undetectable. Regardless, there are people who have pain for a year after the injury, there are people who are back to work in 2-3 weeks. It is all based upon how they healed and the person's pain tolerance. Most people with cracked ribs can return to strenuous activity in 6-8 weeks. But most anyone who does can still feel SOMETHING. The questions are....

 

1.) Did Ellsbury re-injure the area? Now I know the CT showed healing fractures, but did the healing get disrupted? Possible.

 

2.) Did Ellsbury just not give it enough time? He may have rushed it back, he might have still been healing and could be back in a couple weeks.

 

3.) What is Ellsbury's pain threshold and does he need to be completely pain free to play? If that is the case, then he could be out for awhile, especially when his game is predicated on sliding.

 

So there is a very tangential answer to your question, essentially boiling down to...it could be a couple weeks, or he could be out for most of the season depending on his pain tolerance

 

Good stuff.

 

I say option 2.

[Spudboy]

Another delay — and a long one — for Ellsbury

E-mail|Link|Comments (5) Posted by Peter Abraham, Globe Staff June 10, 2010 04:22 PM

 

Jacoby Ellsbury is on his way to Arizona for what will be at least a two-week stay at the Athletes' Performance training center in Phoenix.

 

There will be no baseball-type activities, only what Terry Francona called "rest, therapy and rehab" on his bruised ribs.

 

"He needs a couple of weeks. That's a round figure," Francona said.

 

Francona, who said the team would be releasing further information, indicated that Ellsbury was experiencing "posterior" soreness related to the four cracked ribs he suffered on April 11. Ellsbury was examined in California by Dr. Lewis Yocum yesterday.

 

Ellsbury was apparently re-inured taking batting practice on May 24 and complained later about back pain.

 

A two-week stint at Athletes' Performance would end around June 24. From there, Ellsbury would have to start over again taking batting practice to prepare for a minor-league rehab assignment.

 

It is almost certain that he will not return before the All-Star break. Ellsbury has been seen by four doctors since he was first injured. Francona praised his agent, Scott Boras, for working closely with the team on Ellsbury's care and trying to get him back on the field.

 

Francona also admitted for the first time that Dustin Pedroia's protracted slump is related to the right knee injury he suffered in Detroit on May 15. "I think his knee is bothering him more than he lets on," Francona said.

 

The one bit of good news: Jonathan Papelbon will be activated tomorrow.

[jacksonianmarch]

He reinjured it swinging. They are finally going to do it the right way and let him heal

[Spudboy]

I mentioned many weeks ago that I thought they were making a mistake increasing the "intensity of baseball related activities. They should have waited another two weeks and he may have been playing by now. Oh well.

[a700hitter]

Another delay — and a long one — for Ellsbury

E-mail|Link|Comments (5) Posted by Peter Abraham, Globe Staff June 10, 2010 04:22 PM

 

Jacoby Ellsbury is on his way to Arizona for what will be at least a two-week stay at the Athletes' Performance training center in Phoenix.

 

There will be no baseball-type activities, only what Terry Francona called "rest, therapy and rehab" on his bruised ribs.

 

"He needs a couple of weeks. That's a round figure," Francona said.

 

Francona, who said the team would be releasing further information, indicated that Ellsbury was experiencing "posterior" soreness related to the four cracked ribs he suffered on April 11. Ellsbury was examined in California by Dr. Lewis Yocum yesterday.

 

Ellsbury was apparently re-inured taking batting practice on May 24 and complained later about back pain.

 

A two-week stint at Athletes' Performance would end around June 24. From there, Ellsbury would have to start over again taking batting practice to prepare for a minor-league rehab assignment.

 

It is almost certain that he will not return before the All-Star break. Ellsbury has been seen by four doctors since he was first injured. Francona praised his agent, Scott Boras, for working closely with the team on Ellsbury's care and trying to get him back on the field.

 

Francona also admitted for the first time that Dustin Pedroia's protracted slump is related to the right knee injury he suffered in Detroit on May 15. "I think his knee is bothering him more than he lets on," Francona said.

 

The one bit of good news: Jonathan Papelbon will be activated tomorrow.

I heard that he is in frightful pain. He needs to bite down on a stick when he urinates.

[Spudboy]

Statement from the Red Sox on Ellsbury: second rib fracture was discovered

E-mail|Link|Comments (4) Posted by Peter Abraham, Globe Staff June 10, 2010 05:33 PM

 

This from the Red Sox:

 

Red Sox Medical Director Dr. Tom Gill and Dr. Lewis Yocum issued the following statement today in regards to outfielder Jacoby Ellsbury:

 

“An MRI of Jacoby’s thoracic spine and posterior rib area, recommended by us jointly, revealed a non-displaced rib fracture and edema in the left posterior-axillary line. This fracture, which is in a different area than the initial fractures and which was not present on previous scans, is likely the result of a new injury which occurred when Jacoby dove and impacted the ground during his brief return to play. Jacoby will require several weeks of rest and physical therapy.”

 

The play they are referring to was on May 23 in Philadelphia when Ellsbury made a diving catch of a ball hit by Raul Ibanez. He said in the days that followed that he didn't think he was hurt on that play. But apparently he was.

 

At any rate, this is a second injury.

 

Edema: Swelling caused by excess fluid trapped in your body's tissues.

 

The left posterior-axillary line: Is basically your side, going toward the back. See this