Victor Martinez = failure at catcher position?

[Migual Cabrera 2 sox 2009]

Moderator Warning: This thread is pretty much entirely useless. You've been warned.

 

 

Am I only one whose noticed this trend? The man is a horrible defensive catcher and pitchers struggle when he is on the mound. The only guy who is pitching comfortably with him behind the plate is John Lackey

 

In Lackey's two starts with VMart he is 1-0 with 1 run allowed in 12.2 innings..

 

In Variteks one start, Royals scored 3 runs, which is great.

 

In the Rest of V-Marts starts he has allowed: 7, 6, 4, 6, 5, 3 and 8 runs. which is good enough for a 4.8 run ERA.

 

Is it time to DH VMart, and start Tek?

[BigPapiEnFuego]

Yeah, he isn't a great defensive catcher. He's terrible at throwing runners out. I saw the other day that last season pitcher's ERAs were about 1 or 2 higher with V-Mart at catcher, I can't remember the details.

 

Would be great if you could have Varitek just out there defensively and V-Mart bat for him.

[Spudboy]

No.

 

Trade for Suzuki.

[Jacoby_Ellsbury]

But Varitek isn't a failure?

[TedWilliams101]

They could always slip V-Mart into the DH slot more often and give Vtek some more games behind the plate. Papi could use less playing time right now. If it were up to me, I'd send Papi down to the minors if he can't figure it out by the end of the month. He needs his at-bats, but we can't keep him in the lineup if he isn't hitting.

[jacksonianmarch]

Catcher's ERA is overrated. But, he has never been a good defensive catcher and he can't throw out runners to save his life

[Palodios]

Well, he was in Cleveland when both Cliff Lee and C.C. Sabathia won Cy Youngs. Sure, he didn't catch a lot of Cliff's, but hey, it still says something.

[Migual Cabrera 2 sox 2009]

But Varitek isn't a failure?

 

Varitek is better game called the V-mart and a better defensive catcher, its not even debatable.

 

In fact, Varitek has more homers then V-mart this year and Tek has played ONE GAME. Way to go VMART

[BigPapiEnFuego]

Varitek is better game called the V-mart and a better defensive catcher, its not even debatable.

 

In fact, Varitek has more homers then V-mart this year and Tek has played ONE GAME. Way to go VMART

 

 

 

lol, impending s*** storm

[Spudboy]

Varitek is better game called the V-mart and a better defensive catcher, its not even debatable.

 

In fact, Varitek has more homers then V-mart this year and Tek has played ONE GAME. Way to go VMART

 

:lol:

 

Pass me the ban hammer.

[Migual Cabrera 2 sox 2009]

:lol:

 

Pass me the ban hammer.

 

Ban hammer?

 

Vmart is catching due to his offense and is a huge liability defensively... VMART ISN'T EVEN HITTING RIGHT NOW and is quite possibly worst defensive catcher in MLB, if he doesn't hit hes useless.

[Spudboy]

Yes, ban hammer.

 

You are a nobody on talksox and you have done two stupid things in one day.

 

Being stupid on talksox is a privilege that is earned.

 

You don't qualify.

[CanadianSox]

I believe he is drunk again and will ask for this to be deleted tomorrow when he wakes up. Oh that sounds like it has happened before....

[yeszir]

I thought you were no longer a Red Sox fan?

[Jasonbay44]

Okay, so based on the threads created so far this season, JD Drew and Victor Martinez suck and Francona should be fired, wonderful.

[Spudboy]

Okay' date=' so based on the threads created so far this season, JD Drew and Victor Martinez suck and Francona should be fired, wonderful.[/quote']

 

 

Sounds reasonable to me!

[YeAuldBroade]

At first I was going to respond reasonably to the opening poster but then I read the subsequent posts...

 

so..... I LIKE PUDDING!

[CanadianSox]

At first I was going to respond reasonably to the opening poster but then I read the subsequent posts...

 

so..... I LIKE PUDDING!

 

What kind? I personally like banana. Also do you find it a bitch to open the packs?

[Dipre]

I just lost a very significant amount of brain cells.

[CanadianSox]

I just lost a very significant amount of brain cells.

 

Why, have to been drinking like the OP?

[YeAuldBroade]

What kind? I personally like banana. Also do you find it a bitch to open the packs?

I like chocolate, vanilla and tapioca. I like bananas but not in my pudding. Opening the packets isn't that tough for me, keeping it off my hips is.

[Cocos Disciples]

I had vanilla pudding when I got my teeth pulled and it was so yummy.

[YeAuldBroade]

I had vanilla pudding when I got my teeth pulled and it was so yummy.

All of 'em?

[Dojji]

Haha wimps. Try making it from scratch sometime. Not really that difficult, but if you're making chocolate you have to be careful about the baker's chocolate unless you want an unsweetened lump of yuck in your pudding.

[italstallianion]

Why are we talking about pudding in a Victor Martinez thread? Did I miss a few leaps?

[Dojji]

Why are we talking about pudding in a Victor Martinez thread? Did I miss a few leaps?

 

Pointless thread is pointless. We're just making that clear.

[YeAuldBroade]

Why are we talking about pudding in a Victor Martinez thread? Did I miss a few leaps?

I'm thinking you just missed the opening posters posts. Read those and it should explain everything.

[YeAuldBroade]

Haha wimps. Try making it from scratch sometime. Not really that difficult' date=' but if you're making chocolate you have to be careful about the baker's chocolate unless you want an unsweetened lump of yuck in your pudding.[/quote']

I've made it from a box - you know added milk. Does that count?

[Spudboy]

Haha wimps. Try making it from scratch sometime. Not really that difficult' date=' but if you're making chocolate you have to be careful about the baker's chocolate unless you want an unsweetened lump of yuck in your pudding.[/quote']

 

This can be overcome by breaking the chunks into smaller pieces and melting them first.

 

Back to the stupid premises of this thread.

[Cocos Disciples]

All of 'em?

 

All of my teeth? No. All of the pudding? Yes.