Yankees AFL thread

[jacksonianmarch]

Well, the AFL just ended, and ORS decided to rag on me for not starting this thread, so here it is

 

Austin Romine played only 4 games before injuring a finger and being lost for the fall. He went 6 for 15 for a .400BA.

 

Colin Curtis was one of the best players in the league. He played 20 games and put up a line of .397/.472/.730 with 5 homers, 7 doubles and 2 triples. He looked really, really good and will be eligible for the Rule V this season

 

Brandon Laird was also very solid for the Rafters. His line was .333/.406/.633 with 6 homers and 9 doubles in 22 games. His 24RBI led the team

 

Ian Kennedy led the team in IP with 29.2IP. His ERA was good for this league at 4.25 and he had a very respectable 1.18WHIP. He also struck out 28 in 29.2IP.

 

Zach Kroenke also had a respectable WHIP as a lefty reliever at 1.28. His ERA was high (5.28), but he did strike out 14 in 15.1IP. He will also be available in the Rule V

 

Michael Dunn had an interesting AFL. He is on the yankees 40 man roster and he was one of the more enigmatic pitchers in the league. He struck out 20 in 10.1IP. But he also walked 10 and allowed 11 hits. His ERA of 4.35 was respectable, but the walks need work for him to carve out a future in NY

 

Grant Duff had an enigmatic AFL as well. Showcasing a plus FB, although not as plus as he finished the yr with, he should have had more power. His ERA of 2.89 and WHIP of 1.29 were pretty good, but the 4K's in 9.1IP was pretty disappointing. Then again, SSS. Duff will be eligible for the Rule V as well

[Spudboy]

I'm all excited.

[Imperial59]

Well, the AFL just ended, and ORS decided to rag on me for not starting this thread, so here it is

 

Austin Romine played only 4 games before injuring a finger and being lost for the fall. He went 6 for 15 for a .400BA.

 

Colin Curtis was one of the best players in the league. He played 20 games and put up a line of .397/.472/.730 with 5 homers, 7 doubles and 2 triples. He looked really, really good and will be eligible for the Rule V this season

 

Brandon Laird was also very solid for the Rafters. His line was .333/.406/.633 with 6 homers and 9 doubles in 22 games. His 24RBI led the team

 

Ian Kennedy led the team in IP with 29.2IP. His ERA was good for this league at 4.25 and he had a very respectable 1.18WHIP. He also struck out 28 in 29.2IP.

 

Zach Kroenke also had a respectable WHIP as a lefty reliever at 1.28. His ERA was high (5.28), but he did strike out 14 in 15.1IP. He will also be available in the Rule V

 

Michael Dunn had an interesting AFL. He is on the yankees 40 man roster and he was one of the more enigmatic pitchers in the league. He struck out 20 in 10.1IP. But he also walked 10 and allowed 11 hits. His ERA of 4.35 was respectable, but the walks need work for him to carve out a future in NY

 

Grant Duff had an enigmatic AFL as well. Showcasing a plus FB, although not as plus as he finished the yr with, he should have had more power. His ERA of 2.89 and WHIP of 1.29 were pretty good, but the 4K's in 9.1IP was pretty disappointing. Then again, SSS. Duff will be eligible for the Rule V as well

 

How is an ERA of 4.25 good for a player who will be 25 next month in a league full of minor leaguers? It's not even in the top 3rd of ERA's for regular starters in the league.

[jacksonianmarch]

His ERA was 8th in the league for starters, which isnt too bad. Also, ERA is not a terribly useful tool for evaluating pitchers. I think the K/9IP and the WHIP is a much better barometer.

[BSN07]

His ERA was 8th in the league for starters' date=' which isnt too bad. [b']Also, ERA is not a terribly useful tool for evaluating pitchers.[/b] I think the K/9IP and the WHIP is a much better barometer.

 

I'll try to remember this in future discussions;)

[jacksonianmarch]

It has confounders. Thats the point. K/9, BB/9 and baserunners per inning (WHIP) are pretty much exclusively controlled by the pitcher. The next most important stat IMO is GO/AO and then its ERA.

[yankees228]

It has confounders. Thats the point. K/9' date=' BB/9 and baserunners per inning (WHIP) are pretty much exclusively controlled by the pitcher. The next most important stat IMO is GO/AO and then its ERA.[/quote']

 

Might as well just use FIP.

[ORS]

Might as well just use FIP.

This, because Jacko is very wrong in stating that WHIP is almost exclusively controlled by pitchers. Usually the biggest component of WHIP is H/IP, and that is very dependent on defense, which for minor leaguers is often much worse than it will be for MLB pitchers. The main weakness of FIP (for minor leaguers), IMO, is that the HR/9 component will be lower than it would be against MLB hitters, who have filled out their bodies and hit more balls over the fence. Therefore, the FIP needs to looked at relative to peers, both past and present.

[Keeper]

His ERA was 8th in the league for starters' date=' which isnt too bad. Also, ERA is not a terribly useful tool for evaluating pitchers. I think the K/9IP and the WHIP is a much better barometer.[/quote']

 

I understand why BA has lost a lot of relevancy, but ERA is still a very important and telling stat, IMO.

 

Scott Baker is a good example. Excellent WHIP, nice K/9, K/BB ratio is superb, and yet his ERA was 4.36 last year.

 

Nick Blackburn had the same defense behind him, his WHIP and K/9 were much worse than Baker's, and yet his ERA was 4.03.

[Imperial59]

His ERA was 8th in the league for starters' date=' which isnt too bad. Also, ERA is not a terribly useful tool for evaluating pitchers. I think the K/9IP and the WHIP is a much better barometer.[/quote']

 

1. Not so bad if you ignore the fact that he's 25 next month and already has major league experience, yet he's pitching against minor leaguers. Plus, he was 8th in ERA among starters among 6 teams. Not quite the same as being 8th in ERA among starters in a 30 team league lol

 

2. You're the one who chose to use ERA to judge his performance.