Where will LeBron sign?

[Emmz]

Wow...

 

I saw someone mention Boston. Is that even possible with their current roster? I believe Ray Allen is FA after the season, but still.

 

Rondo and Lebron for the next 10 years doesn't seem too bad though lol

 

Not going to happen, especially considering that they have a ton of big-name players as it is, and lots of big contracts. I think it's more likely that he remains in Cleveland than anything, or possibly the Knicks. They were talking about the Nets too, but I seriously doubt that.

 

Curry and Mobley for McGrady, and Lebron comes to NY is a near certainty.

 

You say that as if:

 

1. McGrady is still the show-stopper that he was from 2000-2007. His averages have gone down significantly since his days in Orlando, where he was possibly the greatest offensive talent in the NBA.

 

2. LeBron James would want to play for the Knicks because they added a washed up, former 30-ppg guy. LeBron James is going to go where he gets the best chance to win, and getting a guy like McGrady isn't going to be that extra guy. He wants another superstar who's in the prime of his career, like a Chris Bosh or Dwyane Wade to play with. In fact, the Knicks were unloading a ton of money to try and sign James, as well as another younger superstar, like Bosh or Wade.

 

He's going to the Knicks. He's an egomaniac and wants to be "the man." He can resurrect a basketball team and a basketball town and become a global icon

 

No, he will go to the team that provides the best combination of:

 

1. Money

 

2. The best chance of winning the NBA Championship

 

I don't think Gom's proposal is going to change his mind about anything. I think if someone offers him a massive contract, and also signs another big-name player (Who isn't washed up), he will sign with them. However, with salary caps, the latter may not be able to happen.

[yankees228]

Maybe he wants to go to the Knicks because he wants to play in a media market like New York, and he wants to try and return to the Knicks to contention?

 

Maybe he doesn't want to go the Knicks because he doesn't feel they can contend?

 

We have absolutely no clue.

[Emmz]

Maybe he wants to go to the Knicks because he wants to play in a media market like New York, and he wants to try and return to the Knicks to contention?

 

Maybe he doesn't want to go the Knicks because he doesn't feel they can contend?

 

We have absolutely no clue.

 

He's not going to go there unless they can contend. His idol is Michael Jordan. Do you think that he wants to go through a career with just being a high-paid guy, who was always the best player in basketball, but never won a championship? No, he wants to win. If he wanted to be the guy who returned a team to contention, he's done that. He's made the Cavs one of the best teams in basketball by himself.

[yankees228]

He's not going to go there unless they can contend. His idol is Michael Jordan. Do you think that he wants to go through a career with just being a high-paid guy' date=' who was always the best player in basketball, but never won a championship? No, he wants to win. If he wanted to be the guy who returned a team to contention, he's done that. He's made the Cavs one of the best teams in basketball by himself.[/quote']

 

Making the Cavs one of the best teams in basketball =/= making the Knicks one of the best teams in basketball.

 

Granted, I don't think he would go to a team that he basically has to build up from scratch, but considering how the Knicks have prepared themselves for next offseason, he might feel that he can help make them a championship team.

[suns]

Chris Bosh wants to go to the same place that Lebron goes.

[Gom]

You say that as if:

 

1. McGrady is still the show-stopper that he was from 2000-2007. His averages have gone down significantly since his days in Orlando, where he was possibly the greatest offensive talent in the NBA.

 

2. LeBron James would want to play for the Knicks because they added a washed up, former 30-ppg guy. LeBron James is going to go where he gets the best chance to win, and getting a guy like McGrady isn't going to be that extra guy. He wants another superstar who's in the prime of his career, like a Chris Bosh or Dwyane Wade to play with. In fact, the Knicks were unloading a ton of money to try and sign James, as well as another younger superstar, like Bosh or Wade.

 

No, that's not what I said. McGrady's contract expires after this season. This would allow the Knicks to sign two max contract players, possibly Bosh or Wade in addition to Lebron.

 

The addition of McGrady would allow the subtraction of Curry, and more salary cap relief at the end of the season. It is inconsequential how good or bad McGrady is.

 

Sigh.....

[yankees228]

Gom, is that a legitimate rumor?

[Gom]

I read it somewhere, I think. It does make sense, though.

[Emmz]

I read it somewhere' date=' I think[/b']. It does make sense, though.

 

That says it all, right there. "I read it somewhere, I THINK".

 

Lol, just had to

 

As for the rumor itself, just don't see it happening. Wade, Bosh, etc are going to command massive amounts of money. However, if they were able to pull in Wade, I doubt James would sign anywhere else. And that team, with Wade (Or Bosh, for that matter) and LeBron, would be absolutely the scariest team in the league. Wade and LeBron are two guys capable of putting up 40-50 points on any given night. It would be Pippen and Jordan revisited.

[Emmz]

Chris Bosh wants to go to the same place that Lebron goes.

 

It's not up to Chris Bosh, it's up to the team's salary cap.

[Keeper]

Wade and LeBron are two guys capable of putting up 40-50 points on any given night. It would be Pippen and Jordan revisited.

 

Wade and LeBron could possibly be even better than Jordan and Pippen. The only problem might be chemistry and who becomes the go-to-guy in crunch time. Pippen was always willing to play second fiddle to Jordan. Between Wade and LeBron... there is no clear "sidekick" there.

[Emmz]

Actually, people often argue the two as being somewhat equal players. And Pippen was a great role player, and one of the greatest defenders in the history of basketball, as was Jordan. I think overall, Pippen-Jordan is probably a better one-two punch than Wade-James, but offensively, yeah, Wade and James may have the edge. However, Jordan and Pippen also had their Rodman (Also a defensive giant, and the most skilled rebounder in NBA history), as well as other good players. I think in New York, it's probably going to be basically just Wade and LeBron, with maybe another role player or two in the mix. They need to be sure they're not just having two guys and a bunch of bodies afterwards. Otherwise they will fail to meet expectations.

[suns]

One reason lebron might not stay in Cleveland is that Z will retire after this year and shaq might and then the cavs will have no big men.

[Spudboy]

Actually' date=' people often argue the two as being somewhat equal players. And Pippen was a great role player, and one of the greatest defenders in the history of basketball, as was Jordan. I think overall, Pippen-Jordan is probably a better one-two punch than Wade-James, but offensively, yeah, Wade and James may have the edge. However, Jordan and Pippen also had their Rodman (Also a defensive giant, and[b'] the most skilled rebounder in NBA history)[/b], as well as other good players. I think in New York, it's probably going to be basically just Wade and LeBron, with maybe another role player or two in the mix. They need to be sure they're not just having two guys and a bunch of bodies afterwards. Otherwise they will fail to meet expectations.

 

Lol.

[Emmz]

Lol.

 

You don't think Dennis Rodman, a man who was significantly undersized, was the most skilled rebounder in history? Really? His technique was godly. He would fight for it, he would jump up and he would tip the ball in his favor until it was his board. He's an undersized guy who led the league in rebounding every year. He had a good technique for getting the boards

[BSN07]

You don't think Dennis Rodman' date=' a man who was significantly undersized, was the most skilled rebounder in history? Really? His technique was godly. He would fight for it, he would jump up and he would tip the ball in his favor until it was his board. He's an undersized guy who led the league in rebounding every year. He had a good technique for getting the boards[/quote']

 

I think he was the most "natural" rebounder ever. And worked harder then just about everyone. If that makes any sense

 

Speaking of Rodman, everyone remember the site of him dribbling up court? One of the funniest things ever.

[Keeper]

Actually' date=' people often argue the two as being somewhat equal players. And Pippen was a great role player, and one of the greatest defenders in the history of basketball, as was Jordan. I think overall, Pippen-Jordan is probably a better one-two punch than Wade-James, but offensively, yeah, Wade and James may have the edge. However, Jordan and Pippen also had their Rodman (Also a defensive giant, and the most skilled rebounder in NBA history), as well as other good players. I think in New York, it's probably going to be basically just Wade and LeBron, with maybe another role player or two in the mix. They need to be sure they're not just having two guys and a bunch of bodies afterwards. Otherwise they will fail to meet expectations.[/quote']

 

I'm not saying that Wade and LeBron would necessarily be better or as good as Jordan and Pippen (who are, IMO, the greatest duo in the history of the game). I'm just saying the talent is there. And you're absolutely right about role players. The Bulls could not have won without Horace Grant, Dennis Rodman, John Paxson, B.J. Armstrong, Ron Harper, and Toni Kukoc. And, of course, Dickey Simpkins and Jud Buechler.

[26 to 6]

He's driving up the price by fueling rumors about going to New York and Miami. I think he'll stay in Cleveland.

 

Btw, classy move by him to try to retire MJ's number league-wide.

I hadn't heard that, but that is indeed very classy. I think it should be done.

 

I'm not that happy that lebron wore shoes that said 27 on one shoe and another shoe said new york.

I hadn't seen that. That's awesome.

Edit:

http://www.sneakerobsession.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/air-max-lebron-vii-ny-yankees-2.jpg

Those are pretty sick.

 

I'm a Knicks fan and follow the NBA casually (it's hard given how poor my team has been in recent history), and speaking objectively and fairly I really think it comes down to just two teams. The Knicks and the Cavs. I think he loves playing at home in Cleveland and being the biggest Ohio sports icon....well probably ever. But it is also clear that he is enamored with New York, and I have a strong feeling that we might very well be seeing him play his home game at the Garden for a long time. I also know how badly he wants to win a championship in Cleveland. I'm not going to go on talking like I know a great deal about the inner-workings; contractually and business wise, about the NBA, but I honestly do think it comes down to those two teams, and from there I think it is a complete crap-shoot. 50/50 he signs with either team. No Boston, no LA, no Miami. Just the Knicks or Celtics, IMO.

[suns]

I hadn't seen that. That's awesome.

 

I'm a Knicks fan and follow the NBA casually (it's hard given how poor my team has been in recent history), and speaking objectively and fairly I really think it comes down to just two teams. The Knicks and the Cavs. I think he loves playing at home in Cleveland and being the biggest Ohio sports icon....well probably ever. But it is also clear that he is enamored with New York, and I have a strong feeling that we might very well be seeing him play his home game at the Garden for a long time. I also know how badly he wants to win a championship in Cleveland. I'm not going to go on talking like I know a great deal about the inner-workings; contractually and business wise, about the NBA, but I honestly do think it comes down to those two teams, and from there I think it is a complete crap-shoot. 50/50 he signs with either team. No Boston, no LA, no Miami. Just the Knicks or Celtics, IMO.

You said no boston and then you said it will be the knicks or cavs. :dunno: and here's the picture.

 

http://www.totalprosports.com/blog/index.php/2009/11/lebron-james-shoes-say-new-york-27-cleveland-trembles/

[Emmz]

I think he was the most "natural" rebounder ever. And worked harder then just about everyone. If that makes any sense

 

This. He had this technique where he would attack the rebound, and he would get it over a guy who was significantly taller than he was. I don't think anyone that undersized will be as dominant a rebounder as Rodman was

 

Speaking of Rodman, everyone remember the site of him dribbling up court? One of the funniest things ever.

 

Rodman's sole skill lied in defense. His offense was basically, maybe he had some solid post moves, and he was strong on the inside. Otherwise, he was hilarious to watch offensively, because he had no skill whatsoever

[Emmz]

I'm not saying that Wade and LeBron would necessarily be better or as good as Jordan and Pippen (who are' date=' IMO, the greatest duo in the history of the game). I'm just saying the talent is there. And you're absolutely right about role players. The Bulls could not have won without Horace Grant, Dennis Rodman, John Paxson, B.J. Armstrong, Ron Harper, and Toni Kukoc. And, of course, Dickey Simpkins and Jud Buechler.[/quote']

 

I loved watching Jordan and Pippen as a kid. So fun to watch. They were both offensive and defensive giants. Probably two of the greatest players in NBA history. I'll honestly say that Scottie Pippen is tremendously under-appreciated because he was second fiddle to Jordan. People forget that in the prime of his career he was an offensive powerhouse as well, and of course, complete lockdown defender. If you were going up against Pippen, you weren't going to score many points.

 

As for Grant, he was a 12 and 10 guy, and Rodman was a 10 and 15 guy consistently. Awesome big men. Then you had Ron Harper, that was a weird deal. He went to the Bulls after averaging over 20 points per game for his career before, and then he played a minimal amount of minutes with Chicago. Never really understood that, mainly because I can't remember, but I always was curious about that.

 

They even had Steve Kerr, the best three-point shooter of the day. And back then, as good as they were, they never had an easy time going through the playoffs. They always got a challenge. I remember those Pacers teams that always used to give them a run when I was a kid. And before I can remember, the Knicks gave them a hard time, the Pistons bounced them out of the playoffs a bunch of times, etc.

 

Those old Bulls teams were great

[TheKilo]

Miami is an excellent sleeper pick.

[Keeper]

I wouldn't call Pippen an offensive powerhouse, even when Jordan left and he had to be "the man." He could score, yes, but not at will. It was his all-around game that made him so great. He was a good passer, a good rebounder, used the glass a lot, and like you said he was a lockdown defender. Maybe the greatest defensive small forward ever. If you look at highlight reels, what really jumps out at you is how much offense was created by the Bulls' defense. Jordan and Pippen ran the fast break better than anyone. I'll always remember Pippen for his agility. He made it look so easy. I think had Tracy McGrady focused a little less on scoring, he could have been the two-way player Pippen was.

 

Harper came over to the Bulls when his knees were shot. That's why he wasn't the same player. But he knew his role. He played defense and didn't turn the ball over. He did things for the Bulls that you never saw on the stat sheet.

 

The Bulls always had guys who were deadly from behind the arc. Before Kerr they had Paxson, Armstrong, and Hodges. And they had a lot of good looks because of Jordan's unparalleled ability to penetrate. The Pistons had the Bulls' number for three years, and then they got too old. Games against the Knicks were always physical. I'm pretty sure that series against the Pacers in '98 was the only series that went all 7 games during the championship years with Jordan. The Knicks beat the Bulls in 7 after Jordan retired in '94. And the Magic beat the Bulls in 6 when Jordan came back and wasn't yet himself. Seeing Nick Anderson on the breakaway after stealing the ball from MJ is my saddest memory of His Airness. But then he came back with a chip on his shoulder the next year, and that's how 72-10 happened.

[26 to 6]

You said no boston and then you said it will be the knicks or cavs. :dunno: and here's the picture.

 

http://www.totalprosports.com/blog/index.php/2009/11/lebron-james-shoes-say-new-york-27-cleveland-trembles/

What's with the shoulder shrug? I did say no Boston, and I think it will come down to the Knicks and Cavs. So?

 

It appears he's wearing red laces in the picture you linked. I realize it matches his jersey, but I think it kinda ruins the shoes.

[26 to 6]

To honor MJ LeBron is switching to #6 next season. Just posting this because it was mentioned earlier in the thread.

[Gom]

That says it all' date=' right there. "I read it [i']somewhere[/i], I THINK".

 

Lol, just had to

 

As for the rumor itself, just don't see it happening. Wade, Bosh, etc are going to command massive amounts of money. However, if they were able to pull in Wade, I doubt James would sign anywhere else. And that team, with Wade (Or Bosh, for that matter) and LeBron, would be absolutely the scariest team in the league. Wade and LeBron are two guys capable of putting up 40-50 points on any given night. It would be Pippen and Jordan revisited.

 

http://realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/60224/20090630/rockets_might_be_interested_in_curry/mobley_for_t_mac_deal/

 

http://offthedribble.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/10/22/the-key-to-the-knicks-future-may-be-curry/

 

Sigh...I am forever surrounded by idiots.

 

Emmz...just because your internet boyfriend makes s*** up all the time, don't think I do.

 

I really believe that if the Knicks can get rid of Curry, they will get Lebron because they will pair him up with another star. We shall see.

[26 to 6]

I think the Knicks are going to make a huge run at Lebron whether they get rid of Curry or not. They've been clearing cap room for the past 2 years trading away big money players for next to nothing. Donnie Walsh is determined and the ball will be in LeBron's court. Now if we were to move Curry and say bring in both LeBron and Bosh, that would be quite something. I'm not gonna get too excited though. After all, this is the Knicks we're talking about. LeBron or no LeBron, they always find a way to f*** things up. It's second nature.

 

http://lp.imageg.net/prod?set=key[name],value[JAMES]&set=key[number],value[6]&set=key[displaysize],value[220]&load=url[http://chains.imageg.net/graphics/dynamic/chains/p5323265_customback.chain]

Pretty sweet though

[26 to 6]

Unrelated to LeBron but since we're talking about the Knicks, I really think they should snag Iverson no the cheap now that he and the Grizzlies have parted ways. Although he's just a shell of his former self, I still think he's got a little something left in the tank. He wouldn't cost much and i think he and LeBron could be a pretty good tandem next year, along with Nate, Hughes, and Duhon.

[Keeper]

I don't care where AI ends up. I just hope a team picks him up and gives him some playing time. His career shouldn't end this way.

[Dipre]

http://realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/60224/20090630/rockets_might_be_interested_in_curry/mobley_for_t_mac_deal/

 

http://offthedribble.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/10/22/the-key-to-the-knicks-future-may-be-curry/

 

Sigh...I am forever surrounded by idiots.

 

Emmz...just because your internet boyfriend makes s*** up all the time, don't think I do.

 

I really believe that if the Knicks can get rid of Curry, they will get Lebron because they will pair him up with another star. We shall see.

 

Again, Gom talking about making s*** up.

 

Downright hilarious. If you checked your stats or posted sources, you wouldn't be called out on your ******** 80% of the time. Some friendly advice.