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Some reassuring things following the Sox loss to the Angels, probably a short lived but (for me at least) essential thread:

 

* Buchholz looked good. There's reason to think he'll be a good pitcher in the future

 

* The Red Sox have addressed their catching situation this year by getting Victor Martinez. That's an important development.

 

* The Angels have had really, really good teams the past few years. They too have been swept before and have lost when they were expected to win. There's no shame in having the Angels for company.

 

* Speaking of company, the Cardinals (many people's odds-on NL favorite) were eliminated first.

 

* The Red Sox did not lose to the Yankees in the ALCS.

 

* Many of us could tell this team wasn't good enough to win it all

 

* The sour taste in our mouth will increase excitement both for the offseason and the beginning of next year

 

* The sour taste should also be in John Henry and Theo Epstein's mouth. Hopefully Henry is writing Theo a check for $50m to spend on FA's right now.

 

Feel free to add other things...

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Consolation: The Red Sox record is a tribute to their manager and they won way more games than their performance should have indicated.

 

Utter realism: The sox need a lot of changes to get back to being championship contenders. Their stand pat attitude after 2008 was a killer

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Consolation: The Red Sox record is a tribute to their manager and they won way more games than their performance should have indicated.

 

So did the Yankees. By 8 games.

 

Utter realism: The sox need a lot of changes to get back to being championship contenders. Their stand pat attitude after 2008 was a killer

 

You're full of s*** Jacksonian. Their "stand pat" attitude was nonexistent. They pursued Teixeira, they didn't stand pat. They didn't go all out, but they didn't stand pat.

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So did the Yankees. By 8 games.

 

 

 

You're full of s*** Jacksonian. Their "stand pat" attitude was nonexistent. They pursued Teixeira, they didn't stand pat. They didn't go all out, but they didn't stand pat.

 

DFTT!

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There are to many holes in their lineup. I think the starting pitching is fine. We need a big bat. I dont want to bring it up but Tex could have been the difference and I'll leave it at that. We need to find a bat though or else next year will be more of the same.
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Jacko with the consolation that's really a dig. The backhanded compliment. No surprise.

 

The reality is they played to their pythag. They were as good as their record, but they did it in hot/cold fashion, and the cold showed up for the playoffs. Take the good with the bad.

 

My consolation? Don't need one, I'm not upset and don't need consoling. On to fixing the team.

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DFTT!

 

Nah. I understand the Yankee fans wanting to rub it in, I just don't think he knows what he's talking about. I'll have some patience (not assuming everything is trolling) but I will call 'em like I see 'em. Gom is doing nothing but trolling. Jacko is still waiting for someone to call his views on baseball smart. It's a sad need, but I think it is less pointedly trollful than Gom. Even other Yankee fans don't like Jacko.

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Jacko with the consolation that's really a dig. The backhanded compliment. No surprise.

 

The reality is they played to their pythag. They were as good as their record, but they did it in hot/cold fashion, and the cold showed up for the playoffs. Take the good with the bad.

 

My consolation? Don't need one, I'm not upset and don't need consoling. On to fixing the team.

 

One.Thousand.Times.This

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Jacko with the consolation that's really a dig. The backhanded compliment. No surprise.

 

The reality is they played to their pythag. They were as good as their record, but they did it in hot/cold fashion, and the cold showed up for the playoffs. Take the good with the bad.

 

My consolation? Don't need one, I'm not upset and don't need consoling. On to fixing the team.

 

Overall I don't need much consolation. Today's game gives me the need for some consolation, but overall I totally agree with you.

 

I started a thread about "what would be a good 2009" and I said "make the playoffs". They did, they weren't watching from home... I just want them to be competitive with the Yankees from now on.

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Jacko with the consolation that's really a dig. The backhanded compliment. No surprise.

 

The reality is they played to their pythag. They were as good as their record, but they did it in hot/cold fashion, and the cold showed up for the playoffs. Take the good with the bad.

 

My consolation? Don't need one, I'm not upset and don't need consoling. On to fixing the team.

 

Right on man:thumbsup:

 

Nice to see you in this type of thread so soon:lol:

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How f***ing sad is this? Look at all you loser Red Sox fans. That loss must have really hurt huh? OUCH!!

 

You're invited to watch the mighty Yankees tonight.

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I'm really not sure exactly what the Red Sox need to to, outside of resolve first base.

 

Their starting pitching is good. Their lineup, position-by-position is good. Their bullpen is solid, today's game not-withstanding. Who do you really replace?

 

Personally, I would try to get a solid defensive catcher, move Martinez to 1B and Youk to third. You can keep Lowell as a part-time DH with Ortiz and backup to Youk. This way, it wouldn't cost you anything and you'd shut down the running game of your two biggest opponents, the Angels and Yankees.

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I'm really not sure exactly what the Red Sox need to to' date=' outside of resolve first base. .[/quote']

 

1B really? How is 1B not resolved for this team already? Youk had a higher OPS then Tex.

 

 

3B, SS, LF need to be resolved. 3B could be resolved by adding a 1B though.

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1B really? How is 1B not resolved for this team already? Youk had a higher OPS then Tex.

 

 

3B, SS, LF need to be resolved. 3B could be resolved by adding a 1B though.

 

This is what Trollus Maximus meant.

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I'm really not sure exactly what the Red Sox need to to, outside of resolve first base.

 

Their starting pitching is good. Their lineup, position-by-position is good. Their bullpen is solid, today's game not-withstanding. Who do you really replace?

 

Personally, I would try to get a solid defensive catcher, move Martinez to 1B and Youk to third. You can keep Lowell as a part-time DH with Ortiz and backup to Youk. This way, it wouldn't cost you anything and you'd shut down the running game of your two biggest opponents, the Angels and Yankees.

 

I agree but not even part time with Ortiz. Ortiz is done. Split with Kotchman or go out and get someone. What about getting Holliday and keeping Bay and have one DH?

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lol. i guess if you think thats my myspace if you're going by email addresses i've used to sign up here then by all means. go ahead.

 

oh and ban me again. doesnt change the fact that all of you f***ers are crying right now. OUCH! It hurts! Papelbon you let us down!!! HA HA HA HA HA HA HA.

 

YANKEES IN 09 BITCHES!!!

 

*Yawn*

 

Let's just ignore the short-bus rider.

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Jacko with the consolation that's really a dig. The backhanded compliment. No surprise.

 

The reality is they played to their pythag. They were as good as their record, but they did it in hot/cold fashion, and the cold showed up for the playoffs. Take the good with the bad.

 

My consolation? Don't need one, I'm not upset and don't need consoling. On to fixing the team.

This.

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I agree but not even part time with Ortiz. Ortiz is done. Split with Kotchman or go out and get someone. What about getting Holliday and keeping Bay and have one DH?

 

Ortiz is done?

 

Really?

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He is on a series decline' date=' he'll only get worse and is not producing enough at the plate for a DH.[/quote']

 

Wow.

 

I'm not even gonna get into an argument about this.

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He is on a series decline' date=' he'll only get worse and is [b']not producing enough at the plate for a DH[/b].

Check again.

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1B really? How is 1B not resolved for this team already? Youk had a higher OPS then Tex.

 

 

3B, SS, LF need to be resolved. 3B could be resolved by adding a 1B though.

 

The logjam. Your best team may be Youk at 3rd, Vmart at 1B and a great defensive catcher.

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The logjam. Your best team may be Youk at 3rd' date=' Vmart at 1B and a great defensive catcher.[/quote']

 

I actually agree with this. Defense at catcher was definitely one of our problems this year.

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