Tazawa up; Traber down; Woodward claimed; Smoltz DFA'd

[Dipre]

In 2008' date=' the difference was 0.06 in ERA[/quote']

 

Pitchers hit, and of course, some of the weakest lineups in the history of ever.

 

Padres

Giants

Atlanta

Pirates

Mets

 

 

I could keep going.

[a700hitter]

Pitchers hit, and of course, some of the weakest lineups in the history of ever.

 

Padres

Giants

Atlanta

Pirates

Mets

 

 

I could keep going.

4 of the last 8 World Champions were National League teams.

[Spudboy]

I dont think people understand how much weaker the NL is compared to the AL

 

Please explain to us naive fans.

[Dipre]

4 of the last 8 World Champions were National League teams.

 

The postseason is a crapshoot.

 

Look at the 2006 Cards.

 

That argument cannot hold an ounce of water.

[RWTP24]

Thyere's a 0.22 difference in league ERA's ' date=' so the difference is not that big.[/quote']

 

We just saw the Difference today. Smoltz did not do s*** in the AL and the one win he did get the Sox had to score 15 runs.

[a700hitter]

Pitchers hit, and of course, some of the weakest lineups in the history of ever.

 

Padres

Giants

Atlanta

Pirates

Mets

 

 

I could keep going.

.024 difference in 2009 league OPS and .012 difference in 2008.

[Spudboy]

The postseason is a crapshoot.

 

Look at the 2006 Cards.

 

That argument cannot hold an ounce of water.

 

And certainly not a case of Presidente!

[a700hitter]

The postseason is a crapshoot.

 

Look at the 2006 Cards.

 

That argument cannot hold an ounce of water.

The cards were the betterr team. All their guys got healthy at the right time.

[a700hitter]

We just saw the Difference today. Smoltz did not do s*** in the AL and the one win he did get the Sox had to score 15 runs.

Yes, and that would be definitive proof.

[Dipre]

.024 difference in 2009 league OPS and .012 difference in 2008.

 

Awesome pitching staffs can take the blame for that one.

 

The problem is, the bottom-dwelling teams in the NL are GOD-AWFUL.

 

That so hard to grasp?

 

Look at what CC and Lee have done this year while switching leagues, and many an AL pitcher has done before them.

 

Smoltz could own no AL team like he owned the Pads today, if you believe differently, well, may God have mercy on your soul.

[Dipre]

The cards were the betterr team. All their guys got healthy at the right time.

 

L-O-L.

 

The Cards were a better team than NO ONE, specially the Mets.

[RWTP24]

Yes' date=' and that would be definitive proof.[/quote']

 

The proof is in the pudding, look at Smoltz today, Lee in Phi. and CC last year.

[a700hitter]

L-O-L.

 

The Cards were a better team than NO ONE, specially the Mets.

Both the Mets and the cards were better than the Tigers.

 

I was at game 7 when the cards beat the Mets. They all though that the Cards would get steam rolled by the Tigers. I made a few wagers that night, because I had seen a lot of the Tigers that year, and I didn't think that they were very good.

[a700hitter]

The proof is in the pudding' date=' look at Smoltz today, Lee in Phi. and CC last year.[/quote']There's clearly more offense in the AL because they have the DH, but I don't think absent the different rules that there is a big talent gap anymore.

[Dipre]

Both the Mets and the cards were better than the Tigers.

 

I was at game 7 when the cards beat the Mets. They all though that the Cards would get steam rolled by the Tigers. I made a few wagers that night, because I had seen a lot of the Tigers that year, and I didn't think that they were very good.

 

The Cards were not better than the Tigers, champ.

 

There's clearly more offense in the AL because they have the DH' date=' but I don't think absent the different rules that there is a big talent gap anymore.[/quote']

 

The bottom-dwelling teams in the NL create the talent gap.

[RWTP24]

There's clearly more offense in the AL because they have the DH' date=' but I don't think absent the different rules that there is a big talent gap anymore.[/quote']

 

I really disagree, but that the beautie of this board, we can have are own opinions.

[a700hitter]

The Cards were not better than the Tigers, champ.

 

 

 

The bottom-dwelling teams in the NL create the talent gap.

The Tigers were near the bottom of the league in OBP. There lineup did not work pitchers. The Cards had a bad record because a number of their stars were injured. They got healthy for the stretch run and particularly the playoffs. Plus, the Tigers helped give away the WS. Good teams don't throw away 4 games with errors.

[a700hitter]

The bottom-dwelling teams in the NL create the talent gap.

There might be an argument that there is more parity in the AL, but I don't think there is an overall big talent gap. I agree that there is still a talent gap that foavors the AL, but not to the extent there was about 5 years ago. I think a lot of young taent has established itself in the Nl moreso than in the AL in the last 5 years.

[Dipre]

The Tigers were near the bottom of the league in OBP. There lineup did not work pitchers. The Cards had a bad record because a number of their stars were injured. They got healthy for the stretch run and particularly the playoffs. Plus' date=' the Tigers helped give away the WS. [b'] Good teams don't throw away 4 games with errors.[/b]

 

Strawman.

 

The question is whether or not the Tigers were the better team.

 

They were near the bottom in OBP, but near the top in homers, XBH, ERAS, and quality starts.

 

And the whole "stars injured" doesn't add up either.

 

The Cards simply did not have a very good team, even if Carp and Mulder had been completely healthy.

[Rdsxmbnt]

Lugo is hitting the ball, that's pretty good proof there...

 

But anyway Dan Haren is pitching like Pedro Martinez there and Javier Vasquez is an 'ace'.

 

Im surprised Santana isn't the best pitcher of all time, but then again his peripherals have dropped off from where they used to be.

[a700hitter]

Smoltz is on his way to another quality start for the Cards this afternoon.