Bard vs Papelbon

[BSN07]

Theres obviously more pressure coming into a game in the 9th than in the 8th, it isnt debatable in my opinion but I have also noted that winning teams over the years have needed their 11th or 12th pitcher at one point to get an out and will have the season in his hands.

The idea of replacing paplebon with bard is rather assinine at this stage of the year.

Even the 96 Yankees kept Rivera in the setup role and allowed veteran John Wettleland to close out the games, he was the mvp of that series if im not mistaken and it was clear that if NY had a lead in the 7th you were f***ed.

We dont know what Bard is going to do for the rest of the year but we do know what paplebon is probably going to do. theres no way on earth Bard is closing this year as long as paplebon is healthy.

That said what we've seen of Dan Bard is awesome and it makes our bullpen that much more effective and it also provides us an option if for some reason paps is ineffective or hurt, he's been neither despite some panicky words being written here..

Paps is our closer, Bard has won over the setup role and will close on games that Paps is used up.

We have had worse problems and its too bad neither man can play short like they pitch.

 

I don't see Bard taking over the spot this year. Next year maybe. That's if the Sox trade Papelbon. If they don't Paps will close next year. Then leave via FA, and then Bard will take over.

[162watch]

Bard and papelbon you cant really compare

[Dojji]

I'm glad we have both of them and would rather not give either one up.

[lesterfan31]

I think Bard and Papelbon are the same, although bard has a good chance of taking over

[Mr Crunchy]

Since we discussed this last Bard was hit in Tampa and we ended up blowing a game we had a shot of winning on tuesday, last nights game Penny gave away early and our bats continue to suck against even the most mediocre of pitchers, it isnt 1 man that we can blame for this 45 game malaise, its essentially the entire lineup...ive seen the sox blow 5 straight against these guys in august 06 when we were still in the hunt. in fact i saw beckett get ass raped by detroit on a Monday and then by NY on a Saturday afternoon when Tom Paradis and another buddy were gracious enuff to take me into fenway to sit in the seats in right where you have you own waiter, i dont plan on driving to NY this weekend despite tickets being available for us for Saturdays game, I plan on painting my mothers house instead.

History tells me these guys are going to get hammered, you dont limp into NY playing weak ass baseball while theyre on fire, its just a recipe for disaster.

Tonight Joba is a huge favorite over Smoltz and now Paul Byrd and his 86Mph have been brought back for the stretch run, what does this mean? It means that if Smoltz cant get it together this evening that he may find himself out of work and it also means that Tim Wakefield isnt walking thru the door anytime soon either....They need Elsbury to lead off and torment the Cornhusker from the get go, they need Pedroia to hit 2nd with a little bit more pop than we've been getting and they need Youk to hit 3rd with the same vengeance that he hit in Baltimore...Bay Papi VMart and Lowell got to show up this weekend too, Ny is ablaze and they got a lot of payback to give us coming in 0-8....If Im a gambling man I would stay away from this evenings game, i dont lay 165/100 against the Sox but the over line is 10, the way the sox are hitting under 10 is palatable but the way Smoltz is pitching its very attainable by Ny alone.

Maybe its a good idea to look for the Doris Day marathon on Lifetime or the Oxygen channel tonight?

Either that or get stones out of my mind on some hard core painkillers and a little kind bud that found its way into my life this week, im not very optimistic about the Sox chances this evening and dont have enuff stomach lining left to allow myself any room for acid reflux because 4 games with these mother f***ers in August can seem like a lifetime when you're going bad.

Elsbury is the catalyst, the boppers need to bop and the starting pitching has to keep us in the game by keeping Ny under 4 in each starters outing for us to have a chance here.

Christ I hate the f***ing Yankees, i hope Madonna comes down with a nasty strain of the clap as it will spread thru that clubhouse like a fart in church and make the Yanks a little easier to handle.

[Paradisecity]

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I believe the final score of that game was 15-8, was it not Sean-o?

 

I have a great record at sox games but an awful one at sox yanks.

[seniorlion]

Bard is a fantastic arm with an ethereal fastball, but the idea that he is untouchable seems chimerical at best and foolish at worst. Since Epstein took over, he’s shown to be willing to reshuffle his pen at any point and trade just about any pitcher if it comes to that.