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Wakefield on DL; Buchholz recalled

 

Posted by Adam Kilgore, Globe Staff July 21, 2009 04:56 PM

 

The Red Sox have placed knuckleballer Tim Wakefield on the disabled list with a lower back strain and recalled Clay Buchholz from Pawtucket.

 

Buchholz is with the club in Arlington and will start tomorrow

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Wakefield on DL; Buchholz recalled

 

Posted by Adam Kilgore, Globe Staff July 21, 2009 04:56 PM

 

The Red Sox have placed knuckleballer Tim Wakefield on the disabled list with a lower back strain and recalled Clay Buchholz from Pawtucket.

 

Buchholz is with the club in Arlington and will start tomorrow

 

Wow, that's a bit of a shocker. I'm happy to see Buch up, but this isn't the way I wanted it to happen. Then again, it will give him a legitimate chance to pitch his way into the rotation.

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That's the reason for the insurance. One more injury to the starting staff, and they have to start scraping the bottom of the barrel. I can hear the screaming now that Masterson and Bowden are not the bottom of the barrel. I would not be comfortable with either of those guys being in the rotation down the stretch. I am hoping that Dice K and Wake can get healthy in case Penny or Smoltz goes down.
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That's the reason for the insurance. One more injury to the starting staff' date=' and they have to start scraping the bottom of the barrel. I can hear the screaming now that Masterson and Bowden are not the bottom of the barrel. I would not be comfortable with either of those guys being in the rotation down the stretch. I am hoping that Dice K and Wake can get healthy in case Penny or Smoltz goes down.[/quote']

 

Yup, this is why you wait until July 31st if you're considering trading a starter. Hopefully Wakefield is back in 15 days. No word on her serious his injury is.

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Huh? wha? Wait... whoa.... WHAT?????

 

Did not expect that. Wake seemed fine in his last start and we've had the whole All Star Break for him to rest.

 

*sigh*

 

Oh well, he'll bounce back quickly. It's what he does.

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I find this really curious. All of a sudden Wake is befallen by a lower back injury? He has experienced these difficulties in the past, I know. But what has happened recently to bring this injury on? A marathon session in bed?

 

In any case, it's unfortunate timing. Or not.

 

I think that something is up. The next week will be really interesting.

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Wow' date=' that's a bit of a shocker. I'm happy to see Buch up, but this isn't the way I wanted it to happen. Then again, it will give him a legitimate chance to pitch his way into the rotation.[/quote']

 

I was shocked. Hate losing our 11-3 Wake. Hopefully, it is minor.

 

Happy for Buch.

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Interesting point. Any given athlete will have some form of aches and pains at any given time because of the strain major sports puts on their body. I imagine if you really wanted to you could find an excuse to DL at least half of the current Boston roster.

 

Might this simply be a phantom DL trip to allow Buck the extra chance he earned himself with his last start?

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Original article updated:

 

 

"This development comes as somewhat of a surprise given that there was no indication that Wakefield, who has an 11-3 record and a 4.31 ERA this season, was on the verge of a DL stint.

 

The 42-year-old, who made his first All-Star team this season, has not pitched since July 8 against Oakland, but that seemed no cause for alarm since the All-Star break allowed for some extra rest.

 

Buchholz pitched very well in his first big league start of the season Friday, the Red Sox' first game after the break. He allowed 4 hits and 1 earned run in 5.2 innings in a 4-1 victory over the Blue Jays. He walked three and struck out three.

 

Buchholz, 24, had been recalled from Pawtucket, where he has been sensational for much of the season (7-2, 2.36 ERA), ostensibly to give the Red Sox' rotation an extra day of rest coming out of the All-Star break. He was sent back down after the game"

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I find this really curious. All of a sudden Wake is befallen by a lower back injury? He has experienced these difficulties in the past, I know. But what has happened recently to bring this injury on? A marathon session in bed?

 

In any case, it's unfortunate timing. Or not.

 

I think that something is up. The next week will be really interesting.

 

Yeah, at first I wondered if perhaps this was just a way to keep Wakefield fresh and get Buchholz into the rotation. I find it strange that there's no word on how the injury occurred. Who knows what the front office is thinking.

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Interesting point. Any given athlete will have some form of aches and pains at any given time because of the strain major sports puts on their body. I imagine if you really wanted to you could find an excuse to DL at least half of the current Boston roster.

 

Might this simply be a phantom DL trip to allow Buck the extra chance he earned himself with his last start?

 

And as any "senior" member of Talksox will verify, more things hurt with less provocation when you get up there in years. Still, in the absence of an explanation, this seems odd.

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This seems like a phantom DL stint. Wake gets about a month off while missing only like 3 starts. I don't mind this at all. Buchholz gets a few starts and Wake has a fresh arm starting in August.

 

I wonder whether or not Buchholz is really being showcased and they needed a spot in the rotation for a few starts. Could the Sox be working on something big? I have contended all along that if Buchholz is in any deal, it's going to be for a big time player. I'm talking Hanley, Adrian Gonzalez someone top tier.

 

 

...Removing tinfoil hat...

 

Wake is 42 years old. He could have strained his back doing just about anything.

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Isn't Buchholz out of options? He's either with the team for the rest of the year or he gets traded. Either way, he isn't going back to Pawtucket, because he sure as hell wouldn't clear waivers. Isn't this the current situation with him, or am I just wrong?
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This seems like a phantom DL stint. Wake gets about a month off while missing only like 3 starts. I don't mind this at all. Buchholz gets a few starts and Wake has a fresh arm starting in August.

 

I wonder whether or not Buchholz is really being showcased and they needed a spot in the rotation for a few starts. Could the Sox be working on something big? I have contended all along that if Buchholz is in any deal, it's going to be for a big time player. I'm talking Hanley, Adrian Gonzalez someone top tier.

 

 

...Removing tinfoil hat...

 

Wake is 42 years old. He could have strained his back doing just about anything.

 

Hahaha. I think with the struggles of Smoltz the Red Sox are more likely to retain Buchholz and use him in their own rotation. But I think you're right in that Buchholz is pretty much untouchable unless he's part of a deal for an elite hitter.

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Isn't Buchholz out of options? He's either with the team for the rest of the year or he gets traded. Either way' date=' he isn't going back to Pawtucket, because he sure as hell wouldn't clear waivers. Isn't this the current situation with him, or am I just wrong?[/quote']

 

We can send him up and down all year. But after this year, he's out of options.

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Isn't Buchholz out of options? He's either with the team for the rest of the year or he gets traded. Either way' date=' he isn't going back to Pawtucket, because he sure as hell wouldn't clear waivers. Isn't this the current situation with him, or am I just wrong?[/quote']

 

I believe he can go up and down as many times this year. It's next year he is out of options.

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Maybe Wake does one for the team again. Who knows. 43 yo pitchers spend more time on the DL than 34 yo pitchers, so maybe it was inevitable. But Wake has already earned his salary this year--in April and May.

 

So now, Clay gets his chance. They need him now, and I hope he is up to it. I can't believe they'll trade him, not with the way Penny and Smoltz are pitching, and Dice-K on the DL. Bowden is next.

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Hahaha. I think with the struggles of Smoltz the Red Sox are more likely to retain Buchholz and use him in their own rotation. But I think you're right in that Buchholz is pretty much untouchable unless he's part of a deal for an elite hitter.
I'd move him for an elite pitcher. I don't like moving pitching unless pitching is coming back. If Penny had been moved a few weeks ago (as suggested by some) for a spare part bench player or a minor league prospect, this DL move would have caused Bowden to join Buchholz in the rotation and Tito would be managing without a net, because another DL move would cause a further dip into the minors or putting Masterson in the rotation and disrupting an already overworked bullpen. If they want to get a bat, let them trade minor league bats or lower level pitching prospects. I don't think it is wise to trade the organization's most valuable pitching prospects unless experienced pitching is the target.
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I'd move him for an elite pitcher. I don't like moving pitching unless pitching is coming back. If Penny had been moved a few weeks ago (as suggested by some) for a spare part bench player or a minor league prospect' date=' this DL move would have caused Bowden to join Buchholz in the rotation and Tito would be managing without a net, because another DL move would cause a further dip into the minors or putting Masterson in the rotation and disrupting an already overworked bullpen. If they want to get a bat, let them trade minor league bats or lower level pitching prospects. I don't think it is wise to trade the organization's most valuable pitching prospects unless experienced pitching is the target.[/quote']

 

Lol so you wouldn't move Clay + for a bat like Hanley's?

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Lol so you wouldn't move Clay + for a bat like Hanley's?

There's no way that you get Hanley for Buchholz straight up. They'd want additional pieces like Masterson and/or Bowden.That would be too much pitching to give up without getting any pitching in return.

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There's no way that you get Hanley for Buchholz straight up. They'd want additional pieces like Masterson and/or Bowden.That would be too much pitching to give up without getting any pitching in return.

 

Clay += Clay PLUS other prospects, sir.

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Clay += Clay PLUS other prospects' date=' sir.[/quote']

 

I'm amazed how often posters call other posters sir, champ, buddy, sweetie. etc. on this site. I can feel the love!

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"Wake injured the back in his last side session on Sat. Not related to the SLAP tear. Lower down on the back. DL is retro to July 18."

 

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