Chances of Nomar Coming Back to Boston?

[a700hitter]

Nomar is a very accomplished major league hitter. He has always been a very good hitter, and he is at his best hitting at Fenway. The only problem he has had has been stayying healthy. Bailey is a 30 year old minor leaguer. End of story. They are not even in the same league.

[Dojji]

Boy, Jim Rice is such an accomplished MLB hitter. Maybe they should get him out of retirement.

 

What Nomar did in the past before he started sucking doesn't change the fact that he now sucks.

[Dipre]

Boy, Jim Rice is such an accomplished MLB hitter. Maybe they should get him out of retirement.

 

What Nomar did in the past before he started sucking doesn't change the fact that he now sucks.

 

I'm not for trading Nomar.

 

But really, Bailey sucks ass.

[TheKilo]

Boy, Jim Rice is such an accomplished MLB hitter. Maybe they should get him out of retirement.

 

What Nomar did in the past before he started sucking doesn't change the fact that he now sucks.

 

Bingo

 

I'm not for trading Nomar.

 

But really, Bailey sucks ass.

 

Against RHP sure, but he's awesome against LHP

[Dipre]

Against RHP sure' date=' but he's awesome against LHP[/quote']

 

So, are you gonna use him as a DH against LHP?

 

Because his defense is God-awful.

[a700hitter]

Boy, Jim Rice is such an accomplished MLB hitter. Maybe they should get him out of retirement.

 

What Nomar did in the past before he started sucking doesn't change the fact that he now sucks.

Nomar can still play, when he is not injured. These other Bozo's that we are comparing him to are bush leaguers. Bailey is a career minor leaguer that can't field. Bates is a 25 year old going nowhere fast. The only valid criticism of getting Nomar, and it is a very valid concern, is his problem staying healthy. You need the bench guys to be ready to take over when the starters get injured or have a problem. That is why I would not give much to get him. If you get him for Bates, that's very little. The peanut vendors with the awesome arms at Fenway are probably worth more to the organization than Bates.

[TheKilo]

Wow, let's give up on Bates already

[a700hitter]

I think Bates for Nomar would be a good deal. For those of you who disagree, ask yourselves the following question:

 

Does Bates have any future with the Red Sox at the major league level? He was promoted to AAA in no small part because they had to open up 1B for Anderson at Portland.

 

As a 25 year old who has accomplished nothing beyond AA, does he have much of a major league future anywhere.

 

A guy with very little chance at a major league future is the perfect trading chip, if you can find someone to take him.

[a700hitter]

Wow' date=' let's give up on Bates already[/quote']Would you trade Bates for Nomar? If not, I am interested in your reasons for saying no.

[Dojji]

Nomar can still play' date=' when he is not injured.[/quote']

 

When is he ever not injured?

[a700hitter]

When is he ever not injured?

That's a valid concern, but I still think he is worth sacrificing Aaron 'the Natural" Bates.

[Dojji]

Would you trade Bates for Nomar? If not' date=' I am interested in your reasons for saying no.[/quote']

 

You realize that in Portland this year Bates hit .340/.405/.505. He's a little raw and was rushed, but the guy does have some hitting talent, and it might translate to the big leagues if we're a little patient with him.

[a700hitter]

You realize that in Portland this year Bates hit .340/.405/.505

I also realize that he is 25 years old and has no future with the Red Sox. Do you think he has a future with the Red Sox?

[Dojji]

How old was Youkilis?

 

Yeah, I know, I know, Bates

[a700hitter]

You realize that in Portland this year Bates hit .340/.405/.505. He's a little raw and was rushed' date=' but the guy does have some hitting talent, and it might translate to the big leagues if we're a little patient with him.[/quote']By the time he would be ready, if ever, it would be the Lars Anderson era.

[a700hitter]

How old was Youkilis?

Youkilis was not blocked by the best prospect in the organization who plays the same postion.

[Dojji]

And neither is Bates. Just in case you haven't noticed, he was in Pawtucket while Anderson is in Portland.

 

Personally I'd rather be seeing what Jeff Natale can do, as he's older, his window is closing, he's more obviously bench bait and he's much more polished than Bates, but there's nothing wrong with taking a flier on Bates.

[a700hitter]

And neither is Bates. Just in case you haven't noticed, he was in Pawtucket while Anderson is in Portland.

 

Personally I'd rather be seeing what Jeff Natale can do, as he's older, his window is closing, he's more obviously bench bait and he's much more polished than Bates, but there's nothing wrong with taking a flier on Bates.

In case you haven't noticed, Anderson is ahead of Bates on the Red Sox prospect list. He is not going to get the opportunity to play 1st for the Sox before Anderson.

[Dojji]

And yet here he is, and there Anderson is still in Portland.

[a700hitter]

And yet here he is' date=' and there Anderson is still in Portland.[/quote']He's here for a cup of coffee due to injuries. Do you think he has a future with the Red Sox?

 

Edit: I'm not asking you how old Youkilis was when he broke in or Wade Boggs. Do you think Bates has a future with the Red Sox?

[Dojji]

I think he could. As an RHH with a bit of talent, he could at least be the backup when Anderson is our 1B.

[TheKilo]

Bates is also just three years into his professional career as he was a four year player at NC State.

 

Based on his line this season in AA there's no reason to think he can't develop into a major league hitter, and based on that there's no way I'd deal him for an oft-injured Nomar Garciaparra when Nomar would be a marginal upgrade over Bailey/Kotsay as it is.

 

This of course assumes Lowell comes back healthy.

[a700hitter]

I think he could. As an RHH with a bit of talent' date=' he could at least be the backup when Anderson is our 1B.[/quote']Fair enough. I disagree with you.

[a700hitter]

Bates is also just three years into his professional career as he was a four year player at NC State.

 

Based on his line this season in AA there's no reason to think he can't develop into a major league hitter, and based on that there's no way I'd deal him for an oft-injured Nomar Garciaparra when Nomar would be a marginal upgrade over Bailey/Kotsay as it is.

 

This of course assumes Lowell comes back healthy.

Do you think he has a future with the Red Sox?

[TheKilo]

Do you think he has a future with the Red Sox?

 

I think I answered the question in my post.

 

I do - and even if I didn't I would not trade him for a guy who is at best a marginal upgrade over Jeff Bailey.

[a700hitter]

I think I answered the question in my post.

 

I do - and even if I didn't I would not trade him for a guy who is at best a marginal upgrade over Jeff Bailey.

I disagree strongly with your evaluation of Nomar vs. Bailey.

[Dipre]

The health factor works strongly against Nomar.

[a700hitter]

The health factor works strongly against Nomar.

Agreed, which is why I would not part with a valuable prospect to get him. If you could get him for something less valuable than Bates, I don't see how you could go wrong. Getting Nomar cheap would not preclude a second deal. Health is definitely a concern.

[TheKilo]

If Lowell's healthy Kotsay's on the bench and he's better than Nomar.

 

If Lowell isn't healthy, trading for Kotsay means nothing because you can't win with a Nomar/Kotsay platoon anyway, you have to trade for someone better than Nomar.

 

Long story short, this conversation is pointless.

[a700hitter]

Long story short' date=' this conversation is pointless.[/quote']All conversations here are pointless, because we have no power to make anything happen.