Ellsbury's Spot in the Order

[092era]

I'm just curious what some of you think about Ellsbury hitting further down in the order. He's been a lot more productive in the 7th and 8th spots in the order, hitting a combined .404, getting on base in almost half his plate appearances, and slugging well over .500. Should the Red Sox leave him there, or try to move him back to the top of the order and see if his .400+ on base percentage translates to the leadoff spot.

[BoSox21]

I would leave him there personally. He makes things happen from the bottom of the order and that's important too. I wouldn't mess with what works.

[bosoxgirl34]

i agree to leave him there just because he has been so productive and you dont want to chance messing things up

[pedroia_the_destroyah53]

He has been good down there it helps the 8 and 9 guys out too when Jacoby is on base. Also i think pedroia can be more himself leading off

[BoSox21]

Ellsbury and Green at 8-9 are about as good as it gets

[BSN07]

Since Ellsbury went down in the order a few things have changed. The SP approach for one. With Ellsbury at the top of the order he had Pedroia/Youk/Bay(some combo). Add that with his speed and if Ellsbury got on, it was likely to lead to a run. Thats why SP got aggressive with Ellsbury, and made him swing. They threw him a lot of strikes, as a result his OBP suffered. Because it was either going to be a hit or an out.

 

Now that he is down in the order and the hitters behind him don't look so scary, pitchers seem to be pitching him a little normal. Which has allowed him to get deeper into counts, and also draw more walks. Maybe the increase of pitches he's seeing has helped make his overall PA better.

[Dojji]

Ellsbury and Green at 8-9 are about as good as it gets

 

I imagine you never thought you'd be saying that back in April.

[BoSox21]

I imagine you never thought you'd be saying that back in April.

 

Ellsbury not so much, I expected him to hover around .300/.350 this year but with Green, I never thought he'd still be this effective with the bat (and now with the glove) going into July. BTW, any idea when the last Sox player hit two triples in a game was?

[Dojji]

Ellsbury not so much' date=' I expected him to hover around .300/.350 this year but with Green, I never thought he'd still be this effective with the bat (and now with the glove) going into July. BTW, any idea when the last Sox player hit two triples in a game was?[/quote']

 

They actually said during the broadcast that it was, of all people, David Ortiz in '04. I guess he really found the gaps that night

[BoSox21]

They actually said during the broadcast that it was' date=' of all people, David Ortiz in '04. I guess he really found the gaps that night[/quote']

 

Yup, just looked it up. He did it on July 22nd, 2004 in the first game of a doubleheader against Baltimore, two days before the brawl/Mueller walkoff game against NY. He must've dropped it into the triangle twice. He hit 3 triples all year in '04 too.

[Cocos Disciples]

Wow I totally remember that game.

[Dipre]

Since Ellsbury went down in the order a few things have changed. The SP approach for one. With Ellsbury at the top of the order he had Pedroia/Youk/Bay(some combo). Add that with his speed and if Ellsbury got on, it was likely to lead to a run. Thats why SP got aggressive with Ellsbury, and made him swing. They threw him a lot of strikes, as a result his OBP suffered. Because it was either going to be a hit or an out.

 

Now that he is down in the order and the hitters behind him don't look so scary, pitchers seem to be pitching him a little normal. Which has allowed him to get deeper into counts, and also draw more walks. Maybe the increase of pitches he's seeing has helped make his overall PA better.

 

I've been stressing the fact that the way pitches work Ellsbury when he's batting first negatively affects his ability to draw walks, and his production batting 7th in the order justifies my theory.

[BoSox21]

I've been stressing the fact that the way pitches work Ellsbury when he's batting first negatively affects his ability to draw walks' date=' and his production batting 7th in the order justifies my theory.[/quote']

 

I wuv myself.

[Dipre]

I wuv myself.

 

Hey, i got called out for saying that.

 

Now don't you dare interfere with my delicious "lol im rite" time, ya filthy canadian.

[BoSox21]

ya filthy canadian.

 

pffft, go spend more time building a case for that guy who bashed the other guy over the head with a coconut

[Dipre]

pffft' date=' go spend more time building a case for that guy who bashed the other guy over the head with a coconut[/quote']

 

Lol from you?

 

Seriously?

 

Canada's my reminder that no matter how s***** my country is, it could be worse.

 

After all, you are:

 

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2387/2198259774_baed018f2b.jpg

[schillingouttheks]

I thought your reminder was right next door?

[Dipre]

Haiti is no one's hat.

 

However, the argument is valid.

[BoSox21]

the argument that DR is better than Canada is valid? rly?

 

any country that has chickens walking around freely is automatically disqualified from arguing superiority over another country.

[Dipre]

the argument that DR is better than Canada is valid? rly?

 

any country that has chickens walking around freely is automatically disqualified from arguing superiority over another country.

 

Spoken like a person who has never, ever, ever, been to this country.

 

Like any other country, there are rural areas, but here in Santo Domingo, what you'll mostly are skyscrapers and expensive cars.

 

Besides, there is no poutine.

[BoSox21]

Spoken like a person who has never' date=' ever, ever, been to this country.[/quote']

 

been 3 times.

 

http://www.timothyrmason.org/2007-04-03-santo-domingo-skyline.jpg

 

yea, check out those skyscrapers....almost like looking at a latino manhattan

[Dipre]

been 3 times.

 

None to Santo Domingo or Santiago, then.

 

You should let me know if you ever come here again.

 

I'll take you clubbing around Lincoln avenue, it'll change your whole opinion of the DR and you will want to stay and live here.

[BoSox21]

honestly, I love your country and I've had some of the best times of my life in your country.

[Dipre]

http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/1630/382751729cae47f7d1abediku3.jpg http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/382751729cae47f7d1abediku3.jpg/1/w531.png

 

http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/558/kennedyconlincolnip1.png http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/kennedyconlincolnip1.png/1/w678.png

 

WERE IZ CHIKIN?????

 

I C NO CHIKIN!

[Dipre]

honestly' date=' I love your country and I've had some of the best times of my life in your country.[/quote']

 

This place is awesome, and would be even better if not for the s***** wealth distribution.

 

Here, where people are rich, they're filthy, Forbes magazine f***ing rich, but when they're poor, well, your picture describes it perfectly.

[Jacoby_Ellsbury]

the argument that DR is better than Canada is valid? rly?

 

any country that has chickens walking around freely is automatically disqualified from arguing superiority over another country.

Black women = major win.

[Jacoby_Ellsbury]

pffft' date=' go spend more time building a case for that guy who bashed the other guy over the head with a coconut[/quote']

DR > Canada, but this made LOL hard.

[Dipre]

DR > Canada' date=' but this made LOL hard.[/quote']

 

I contend that any awesome joke he might make is automatically neutralized by the " Canada:America's hat" pic.

 

Just sayin'.

[BoSox21]

but if Canada is America's hat, what would that make the DR? America's colostomy bag?

[Dipre]

but if Canada is America's hat' date=' what would that make the DR? America's colostomy bag?[/quote']

 

Not your best work.