Breaking News: Manny Suspended 50 Games for PEDs

[TedWilliams101]

I am more shocked that he took the risk to shame his legacy as the best hitter of the generation than to know actually he did it. What could it be to motivate him to take PED at this stage of his career ? - it is a loose/loose situation.

 

Baseball testing is so strict that a well respected player like Manny just should not have done it. It is like you see a cop car - and decide to speed to get caught - I don't get it. If this was last year when he was playing for a contact - it would have made some sense.

 

I was thinking the same thing myself, but that is only if what he is claiming is true. It is now likely that he has been a PED user all along, but just hasn't been caught until now.

 

I'm hoping that he was simply stupid and took a legitimate prescription drug without realizing it would trigger a positive test... but I'm not optimistic. Odds are, he is/has been a user.

[arbitrary]

Manny was caught smoking the chronic! Maybe its to Manny like spinach is to Popeye.

[ACL BoSox]

At least not on the baseball diamond. The source, who spoke on condition of anonymity, said the substance is supposed to boost sex drive. It is not Viagra, but a substance that treats the cause rather providing a temporary boost in sexual performance, the source said.

 

GOOD LORD! He was taking SEX ENHANCING DRUGS!

[ORS]

I was thinking the same thing myself' date=' but that is only if what he is claiming is true. [b']It is now likely that he has been a PED user all along, but just hasn't been caught until now.[/b]

 

I'm hoping that he was simply stupid and took a legitimate prescription drug without realizing it would trigger a positive test... but I'm not optimistic. Odds are, he is/has been a user.

Are you following the reported story at all or at least reading the updates in the thread? The substance he tested positive for is neither a steroid or HGH, thus not a PED in the contemporary use of the phrase.

 

The sentence in bold is a complete assumption without all the information.

 

I stand by my previous assesment. For the gloves, go to the gardening section at your local Lowe's. You can fashion a screen out of materials found in the window seciton.

[das11209]

GOOD LORD! He was taking SEX ENHANCING DRUGS!

 

Only Manny can turn such a serious news hillarious.

[Jasonbay44]

GOOD LORD! He was taking SEX ENHANCING DRUGS!

 

Whats the source of that?:

[ACL BoSox]

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news;_ylt=Ak2snRXrYAecGa81MfUM0Po5nYcB?slug=ys-ramirezsuspension050709&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

[BoSox21]

Where is it written that this needs to be the assumption to be unsurprised? I don't assume anyone has used PEDs' date=' but I've already allowed for the possibility that they all have in my mind, therefore, none of this surprises me.[/quote']

 

I was primarily responding to this quote:

 

Here's my steroid rule: If you played in the late 80s or 90s' date=' or began your career in the 90s, you used steroids until they were banned by the league. Then you switched to HGH and whetever elite athletes use today.[/quote']

[Gom]

Guess your championships are bit tainted now, huh?

 

Welcome to the club, fellas.

[das11209]

Guess your championships are bit tainted now, huh?

 

Welcome to the club, fellas.

 

Serious question - did you read the posts at all?

[ORS]

Serious question - did you read the posts at all?

Serious question, did you notice who you were quoting?

[Jasonbay44]

Guess your championships are bit tainted now, huh?

 

Welcome to the club, fellas.

Didn't read the posts in the thread Im guessing.

 

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news;_ylt=Ak2snRXrYAecGa81MfUM0Po5nYcB?slug=ys-ramirezsuspension050709&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

Thanks, only Manny would do something like this.

[26 to 6]

Can we seriously can the f***ing Red Sox and Yankees thing? It's not even close to the point. If people really thought there were only clean players on the Red Sox, they're retarded.

 

Oh, and for the record 26, you didn't gain any "leverage". Ours is just gone. It's now neutral, as it really was all along. No one can blame anything on PEDs since they're so common.

When the A-Rod thing came out it was a different story. We took a beating. Now that The Manny thing has come out you want the whole Yankee/Red Sox thing to go away. You can't have your cake and eat it to damnit. Grow the f*** up. If you guys can dish it you should be able to take. Now that your leverage is "gone" you want it to go away, well it doesn't work like that.

[26 to 6]

Manny was caught smoking the chronic! Maybe its to Manny like spinach is to Popeye.

That would not surprise me one bit. The sex enhancers however do surprise me . Poor guy. Chances are he probably still used at one point, but what a way to get suspended

 

I guess you still have your leverage sotk, therefore I take it the Yankee/Red Sox war is back on?

[arbitrary]

Leverage is a bunch of bs; bottom line: Yankees suck and they can all go f*** themselves. The statement transcends logic.

[26 to 6]

Leverage is a bunch of bs; bottom line: Yankees suck and they can all go f*** themselves. The statement transcends logic.

Go jerk off to your Josh Beckett baseball cards you f***ing clown.

 

On another note, I imagine manny isn't too disappointed, he'll likely enjoy his 50 game vacation.

[BoSox21]

When the A-Rod thing came out it was a different story. We took a beating. Now that The Manny thing has come out you want the whole Yankee/Red Sox thing to go away. You can't have your cake and eat it to damnit. Grow the f*** up. If you guys can dish it you should be able to take. Now that your leverage is "gone" you want it to go away' date=' well it doesn't work like that.[/quote']

 

Who turned the A-Rod story into a Yankee/Red Sox thing? Not once have I seen the steroid issue be judged along uniform lines. Are the Giants hated cause they had Bonds? No, Bonds is hated on his own. Same with A-Rod, he's a douche no matter what uniform he plays in and he judged as such. Same with Clemens, Sheffield, Giambi, etc.

 

On another note, I imagine manny isn't too disappointed, he'll likely enjoy his 50 game vacation.

 

Not likely, he'll lose $8 million which I'm sure hurts a guy who is completely motivated by money.

[26 to 6]

Who turned the A-Rod story into a Yankee/Red Sox thing? Not once have I seen the steroid issue be judged along uniform lines. Are the Giants hated cause they had Bonds? No, Bonds is hated on his own. Same with A-Rod, he's a douche no matter what uniform he plays in and he judged as such. Same with Clemens, Sheffield, Giambi, etc.

 

 

 

Not likely, he'll lose $8 million which I'm sure hurts a guy who is completely motivated by money.

Yeah but he's gpt enough of it, and let's not forget about his $20 mil option for 2010.

[BoSox21]

He clearly doesn't think he has enough of it the way he torpedoed his own career in Boston to go make $5 million more somewhere else.

 

Remember, when gas went up, so did Manny

 

However, two sources told ESPN's T.J. Quinn and Mark Fainaru-Wada that the drug used by Ramirez is hCG -- human chorionic gonadotropin. HCG is a women's fertility drug typically used by steroid users to restart their body's natural testosterone production as they come off a steroid cycle. It is similar to Clomid, the drug Bonds, Giambi and others used as clients of BALCO.

 

lulz. I gotta wonder what doctor would prescribe a women's fertility drug for Manny...

[ORS]

If that's the drug, that is a smoking gun, IMO.

[Jacoby_Ellsbury]

HCG is a women's fertility drug typically used by steroid users to restart their body's natural testosterone production as they come off a steroid cycle.

 

Yup.

[jacksonianmarch]

AND noW EveryTHinG DaT dA soX achieveD frUm 2001-2008 is TAinTeD!!!

[BoSox21]

so that links the reports that he took it to increase his sex drive then

[jacksonianmarch]

He clearly doesn't think he has enough of it the way he torpedoed his own career in Boston to go make $5 million more somewhere else.

 

Remember, when gas went up, so did Manny

 

 

 

lulz. I gotta wonder what doctor would prescribe a women's fertility drug for Manny...

 

its not really a fertility DRUG per se, it is a marker of pregnancy and is a hormone that assists in keeping the pregnancy going.

[BoSox21]

in regards to its relevance in this case, would it serve as a masking agent as well or does it simply jump start the testosterone after a steroid use cycle?

[Teddyballgame10]

When the A-Rod thing came out it was a different story. We took a beating. Now that The Manny thing has come out you want the whole Yankee/Red Sox thing to go away. You can't have your cake and eat it to damnit. Grow the f*** up. If you guys can dish it you should be able to take. Now that your leverage is "gone" you want it to go away' date=' well it doesn't work like that.[/quote']

 

Shut up the A-Rod thing was a different situation, it was clear cut he was using steroids. This story is very hazy, wait for more details to come out. I'm able to take s*** for it but I want to see what actually happen before I start ridiculing the guy.

[Dojji]

Then there's the fact that A-Rod signed with the Yankees after his alleged use, while Manny was caught after having left Boston. The point is that we only know for sure that one team spent a bunch of $$$$ on a cheater.

[Mr Crunchy]

Well this is rather disturbing to me as I loved the guys swing and have stated that hes the best right handed hitter ive ever seen...

20hrs in all of 2007, 20 hrs in 100 games last year in Boston then blam,17hrs in 53 games in Los Angeles...

Could be the Clemens syndrome at work here.

you're losing it, you know it, yet you want to prove to the world otherwise so you cheat.

Nothing IN this game is sacred but the game itself is still sacred.

The participants from the Corporations that buy the luxury suites, to the unmitigated greed of owners who charge 2650.00 for seats and seperate the fans as if we were in a Caste system,from Jeff Loria and Carl Pohlad pocketing their TV and revenue sharing while dumping their teams stars and even our guys and their nasty ass p.r. machine leaking all kinds of s*** to the whores in the media and of course the tainted players,their lack of city loyalty and their blatant dishonesty.....

They all suck as well.

Things that make it special for me like watching Martinez sending Jeter and Soriano to the emergency ward on consecutive pitches or him stuffing the gerbil into the Fenway turf in October.Josh Becketts incredible performances in 03-07,Oral Hershisers run in 88, Rickey Hendersons all around game was unreal and I still think hes up their with the best ever.Harmon Killebrew and Tony Oliva drinking at the porthole in Chelsea as me and my dad walked in what a treat as an 8 yr old who adored Killebrew,seeing the guy off the field,he was actually shorter than my father yet his hands were like catchers mitts, I couldnt even talk to the guy.

Too many good things about this game to simply give it up.

Fisks and Carbo's Hrs in game 6, Luis Tiant throwing 155 pitches in game 4, his ability to keep a cigar lit in the shower,Billy Martins explosiveness on and off the field, Yaz covering home plate with dirt after a called strike 3,Ortiz's rampage thru the 2004 season and his incredible playoffs, the grace of Freddy Lynn and the brute power and incredible glove of George Scott, Clemens K'ing 20 twice.

Wade Boggs tenacity which made him a good fielder and his incredible plate discipline, Ichiro,Johnny Bench behind the plate and his 1970 season that made him my favorite as a kid and really turned me on to the game

(Bernie Carbo told me Bench was gay..talk about a kick in the groin).

The game will survive but its this s*** that hurts the kids and makes them cynical.

Watching Manny hit was a privledge for me, for my dad and my son and for so many of my friends.

This is just another cut the game and our kids have to endure and this hurts a lot more than any of em.

[castigs850]

i think its very telling that he denied his appeal. Even if it comes out that what he used this time werent steriods, its pretty obvious he doesnt want the extensive background checks

[TedWilliams101]

Are you following the reported story at all or at least reading the updates in the thread? The substance he tested positive for is neither a steroid or HGH, thus not a PED in the contemporary use of the phrase.

 

The sentence in bold is a complete assumption without all the information.

 

I stand by my previous assesment. For the gloves, go to the gardening section at your local Lowe's. You can fashion a screen out of materials found in the window seciton.

 

Yes, I was. You must not be. What he is claimed to have taken isn't some Viagra drug. All you ever do is just call people idiots, blah. Don't be stupid.