Breaking News: Manny Suspended 50 Games for PEDs

[26 to 6]

Wow. Wow.

Wow.

 

 

How does it feel?

 

well, you know what this means...

 

no more saying the Yankees winning game 7 in '03 is tainted cause Giambi hit two HRs

Exactly.

 

Although it's nice to have this leverage, I'm very disappointed. I do really like Manny a lot and this is just terrible for him and the game. Damn. How stupid do you have to be to use today with the testing programs in place.

[Cocos Disciples]

Not too shocking, but I guess I've been numbed by everyone else who's gotten caught.

 

But really, holy s***.

[26 to 6]

They will try and ultimately fail. Manny is in LA' date=' tested positive in LA. They can speculate as much as they feel like about his time in Boston.[/quote']

Well then if that's the case nobody can say s*** about A-Rod using as a Yankee. If you really think Manny's use began in Los Angeles you're foolish. He and Papi probably had a lil something something goin on in the Fenway clubhouse bathrooms (just as Canseco and McGwire did, just as Clemens and Pettitte did, etc.)

[Cocos Disciples]

Wow. Wow.

Wow.

 

 

How does it feel?

 

I guess it's disappointing, but he wasn't the only member to use and we all know it. This is not an uncommon thing anymore.

[Cocos Disciples]

Well then if that's the case nobody can say s*** about A-Rod using as a Yankee. If you really think Manny's use began in Los Angeles you're foolish. He and Papi probably had a lil something something goin on in the Fenway clubhouse bathrooms (just as Canseco and McGwire did' date=' just as Clemens and Pettitte did, etc.)[/quote']

 

So that's what he was doing behind the monster...

[schillingouttheks]

Can we seriously can the f***ing Red Sox and Yankees thing? It's not even close to the point. If people really thought there were only clean players on the Red Sox, they're retarded.

 

Oh, and for the record 26, you didn't gain any "leverage". Ours is just gone. It's now neutral, as it really was all along. No one can blame anything on PEDs since they're so common.

[Cocos Disciples]

Can we seriously can the f***ing Red Sox and Yankees thing? It's not even close to the point. If people really thought there were only clean players on the Red Sox, they're retarded.

 

Oh, and for the record 26, you didn't gain any "leverage". Ours is just gone. It's now neutral, as it really was all along. No one can blame anything on PEDs since they're so common.

 

Yeah, this is beyond Sox-Yanks. Players cheated on both sides, we can't "deduce" anything about what wins are tainted.

[CrespoBlows]

OWNED

[rician blast]

I'd say that the chances that he did PEDs in LA only are roughly equivalent to the odds that my great grandmother grew a finger nail on her cock.

 

He did 'em in Cleveland and Boston too, of that I am very confident. Proof? Don't need it.

[schillingouttheks]

I'd say that the chances that he did PEDs in LA only are roughly equivalent to the odds that my great grandmother grew a finger nail on her cock.

 

He did 'em in Cleveland, of that I am very confident. Proof? Don't need it.

 

This.

[Cocos Disciples]

^ I don't think there's any debate he used in Boston. Probably Cleveland too. Hell, maybe his high school.

[Ray10]

Honestly im not surprised AT ALL. It's Manny number one and most players are doing this stuff nowadays anyways. I've said from day one that i bet Manny was doing some sort of PED's.

[MANNYHOF24]

Before I make a judgment, I want to learn a little more information. I want specifics. He said in the article that he passed 15 drug tests in the last five years, so until we know what he used I am not going to judge him yet. I think the probability that he used now is incredibly high though, which is very disapointing to me. I would say this revelation is going to bring some scrutiny to David Ortiz as well.

[TedWilliams101]

Same boat as the "disappointed, not surprised". Manny had always (maybe still is) been my favorite player (of those I've actually watched).

 

I think that, even though Manny's now a Dodger, this probably isn't very good news for Ortiz. You can honestly now question whether Ortiz' dramatic drop (disappearance) of power after Manny left is just coincidence. Bad bad situation for him. A scrub in Minnesota, he comes to the Sox, slugs besides Manny, Manny leaves, and so does Ortiz' power. Not good.

[BigPapiEnFuego]

Well, f*** this. I'm surprised. f*** baseball.

[a700hitter]

He says it wasn't steroids, and he say that he passed 15 tests over the past 5 years. What substance did he get nailed for? Amphetimines?

[Cocos Disciples]

Well' date=' f*** this. I'm surprised. f*** baseball.[/quote']

 

Get used to it.

[ORS]

Before I make a judgment' date=' I want to learn a little more information. I want specifics. He said in the article that he passed 15 drug tests in the last five years, so until we know what he used I am not going to judge him yet. I think the probability that he used now is incredibly high though, which is very disapointing to me. I would say this revelation is going to bring some scrutiny to David Ortiz as well.[/quote']

This is about right for where we are in this story.

 

That said, like most, disappointed but not surprised. Disappointed in the sense that Manny is special hitter, still is in my eyes, his approach and swing are close to unparalleled, but this casts doubt on how truly great he really was.

[Teddyballgame10]

He says it wasn't steroids' date=' and he say that he passed 15 tests over the past 5 years. What substance did he get nailed for? Amphetimines?[/quote']

 

Yes this I don't get. Need to wait for specifics,

[ORS]

He says it wasn't steroids' date=' and he say that he passed 15 tests over the past 5 years. What substance did he get nailed for? Amphetimines?[/quote']

If it's not a steroid, this would be my guess. Ritalyn will trigger a positive test result, as it should since it's pretty powerful stimulant. The point is, a lot of stuff doc's prescribe regularly could result in a positive. Of course, it's up to the player to consult the MLBPA or MLB to see if the prescription is acceptable.

[ORS]

A scrub in Minnesota' date=' he comes to the Sox, slugs besides Manny, Manny leaves, and so does Ortiz' power. Not good.[/quote']

If this is a valid thought process to you, I recommend gloves for your hands to protect your knuckles when they drag and a screen to keep bugs out of your mouth.

[RedSoxRooter]

Yep. Here's my steroid rule: If you played in the late 80s or 90s, or began your career in the 90s, you used steroids until they were banned by the league. Then you switched to HGH and whetever elite athletes use today.

 

So I'm not surprised. I'd say Pujols, Ortiz and Howard will eventually be outed as well.

 

I don't really judge players anymore either. I'd deny them the HOF if caught but I don't hate them for using. It's just the way it was back then.

[ACL BoSox]

I will continue the sentiment of "disapointed, not surprised" - I'm just glad its the Dodger's problem and not ours. Would not want to have to deal with that distraction.

[Optimist]

Genuinely shocked. Don't know how I continue to be surprised at these stories...<_>

[BoSox21]

why is it so wrong to be surprised when a big-named player gets outed? I, for one, am glad I don't automatically assume anyone who hit over 30 HRs at any point past 1985 is on PEDs.

[Jasonbay44]

Not really surprised but Im really disappointed to see this. But from my understanding he recently took a banned substance, so he wasn't juiced his whole career right?

 

Edit: Never mind I didn't read the article yet, from what Ive understood, he never actually took steroids, just PED for any injury....Still very disappointed to hear this news....

[das11209]

I am more shocked that he took the risk to shame his legacy as the best hitter of the generation than to know actually he did it. What could it be to motivate him to take PED at this stage of his career ? - it is a loose/loose situation.

 

Baseball testing is so strict that a well respected player like Manny just should not have done it. It is like you see a cop car - and decide to speed to get caught - I don't get it. If this was last year when he was playing for a contact - it would have made some sense.

[ORS]

why is it so wrong to be surprised when a big-named player gets outed? I' date=' for one, am glad I don't automatically assume anyone who hit over 30 HRs at any point past 1985 is on PEDs.[/quote']

Where is it written that this needs to be the assumption to be unsurprised? I don't assume anyone has used PEDs, but I've already allowed for the possibility that they all have in my mind, therefore, none of this surprises me.

[TedWilliams101]

If this is a valid thought process to you' date=' I recommend gloves for your hands to protect your knuckles when they drag and a screen to keep bugs out of your mouth.[/quote']

 

It's not, I'm simply stating that there will probably be a lot of speculation over Ortiz now. There are some coincidences there and obviously people will question his decline in power. I believe it's mostly his injury, mechanical problems, and timing. But, it's still gonna get speculated now. Ortiz really hasn't had much speculation in the past, that's likely to change now.

[ACL BoSox]

Hmm... a new development

 

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news;_ylt=Ak2snRXrYAecGa81MfUM0Po5nYcB?slug=ys-ramirezsuspension050709&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

 

“The substance is not a steroid and it is not human-growth hormone,” the source said.