4/27 @ Cleveland

[What Curse]

Win! Nesn froze on me for a second and I got scared!

 

DITTO

[SCM33]

Think they should warm someone up?

 

Yeah, I do.......great, they got the win, but things were a pitch away from getting ugly, with nobody warm.

[Cocos Disciples]

Daniel Bard please!

 

Yes, Bard please.

 

Another win, but Paps was discouraging. Wakefield and Bay are manly men though.

[yeszir]

Haha the game is still going on MLB.tv...maybe Paps will blow it still?

[Spudboy]

been a pleasure

 

Welcome to the board. Hope to see you frequently.

[Cocos Disciples]

Haha the game is still going on MLB.tv...maybe Paps will blow it still?

 

Tell us how the alternate reality game ends.

[ORS]

Our version of Derek Turnbow, the one with a little better control, is heading down the same path, just not as quickly.

 

You f***ers who treat him like your late game binky, do yourselves a favor, and wake up to this fact. It will only make the ride less painful.

[Teddyballgame10]

Looking forward to the 'Ramon Ramirez as closer' era

 

Stop.

 

I did see something on espn.com today titled "whats wrong with Papelbon". It was insider so I couldnt read it, anyone read it? He just looks tired to me, leaving all his fastballs up.

[What Curse]

Welcome to the board. Hope to see you frequently.

 

definitely, see you guys around

[Dojji]

http://www.ironbellathletics.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/eleven1.jpg

[yeszir]

Tell us how the alternate reality game ends.

 

Jacoby stole home from center and the Cavs somehow won the game

[SCM33]

Stop.

 

I did see something on espn.com today titled "whats wrong with Papelbon". It was insider so I couldnt read it, anyone read it? He just looks tired to me, leaving all his fastballs up.

 

I have insider, hold on...Ill copy and paste it, give me a sec.

[Thumper]

Possible appropriate music to accompany the streak?

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_5TiTmeJP2Y

[SCM33]

Stop.

 

I did see something on espn.com today titled "whats wrong with Papelbon". It was insider so I couldnt read it, anyone read it? He just looks tired to me, leaving all his fastballs up.

 

So far, Jonathan Papelbon has gotten the job done for the Red Sox, but The Boston Globe's Amalie Benjamin wonders if something is wrong with the Sox closer because he's not getting as many batters to swing and miss this season. Is it a concern?

"After three consecutive seasons in which Papelbon has thrown between 15 and 15.6 pitches per inning, he's at 20.9 this year," Benjamin writes, adding, "Batters have swung at 85 of Papelbon's pitches this season, and missed 18 times for a 21.2 rate. That leaves him tied with Manny Delcarmen for 29th in baseball."

Papelbon says he's changed his delivery and may be working out the kinks. Manager Terry Francona says Papelbon's location so far is not up to par. Whatever it is, there's no doubt that Papelbon has been having to work a lot harder to close games out. --Jeff Bradley

 

 

^ This was the ESPN insider article.

-SCM

[Cocos Disciples]

His windup did look different.

[ORS]

I don't think the location has been an issue. People used to just flat out miss if he was up in the zone, above the belt. Now hitters are fouling him off for decades before getting something to hit. If it's a changed delivery, then that suggests a little less movement since there are fewer swings and misses. Whatever the cause, this version of Papelbon won't have a one-something ERA with no blown saves for long. He's on borrowed time pitching like he is now.

[Cocos Disciples]

I don't think the location has been an issue. People used to just flat out miss if he was up in the zone' date=' above the belt. Now hitters are fouling him off for decades before getting something to hit. If it's a changed delivery, then that suggests a little less movement since there are fewer swings and misses. Whatever the cause, this version of Papelbon won't have a one-something ERA with no blown saves for long. He's on borrowed time pitching like he is now.[/quote']

 

We can hope that if it is a different delivery, as the article suggested, then he's just working out some kinks and he'll get back on track. I don't like what I've seen so far and the numbers are indeed deceiving, but I don't want to give up completely yet.

[J-Beck]

Still undefeated since I joined .

 

*knocks on wood*

[Teddyballgame10]

So far, Jonathan Papelbon has gotten the job done for the Red Sox, but The Boston Globe's Amalie Benjamin wonders if something is wrong with the Sox closer because he's not getting as many batters to swing and miss this season. Is it a concern?

"After three consecutive seasons in which Papelbon has thrown between 15 and 15.6 pitches per inning, he's at 20.9 this year," Benjamin writes, adding, "Batters have swung at 85 of Papelbon's pitches this season, and missed 18 times for a 21.2 rate. That leaves him tied with Manny Delcarmen for 29th in baseball."

Papelbon says he's changed his delivery and may be working out the kinks. Manager Terry Francona says Papelbon's location so far is not up to par. Whatever it is, there's no doubt that Papelbon has been having to work a lot harder to close games out. --Jeff Bradley

 

 

^ This was the ESPN insider article.

-SCM

 

Thanks man. I just think its location even on a few swinging strikes today its not where Kottras wanted the ball. Everything seems a little up, maybe he is tired or it is a new delivery.

[MANNYHOF24]

Any day another win credited to me.

[SCM33]

Thanks man. I just think its location even on a few swinging strikes today its not where Kottras wanted the ball. Everything seems a little up' date=' maybe he is tired or it is a new delivery.[/quote']

 

I disagree with location....he has always been up. Its always been hard up, splitter low. I think its one of two things.....hitters are swinging early knowing they will get high fastballs, or he really changed something with his mechanics which is affecting maybe the way a hitter sees the fastball.

 

It looks like he is "dropping" more before he drives off the rubber. Anyone who knows anything about pitching knows that by dropping more......means that a high fastball will appear to rise more to a hitter, which he will lay off, or visually see the ball better.

 

I think he used to be higher with his knee drop, which meant he was on top of the hitter more than below the hitter and I think that it may affect how well the batter sees the pitch and may give him a better chance at reacting positively towards the pitch

[BoSox21]

unless a doctor has told Papelbon that one day his arm will cross home plate before his fastball, why the hell is he changing his delivery?

[Youk Of The Nation]

I have zero confidence in Wakefield. Still.

 

*middle finger*

 

8-0

[BoSox21]

he just wants to be the first guy to say "told you so" when Wake's inevitable 3.2 IP, 6 ER start happens....jackass

[Jacoby_Ellsbury]

He still sucks. His ERA will balloon in no time at all and he'll be getting broomraped regularly by June.

[jacksonianmarch]

Those who do not appreciate Wake's value to the sox, do not know red sox baseball. Hell, even baseball in general. He's a back end of the rotation guy capable of giving you 180IP+ a yr like clockwork and will fight the effects of aging. The only thing that should keep you on the edge of your seat is if his labrum holds together enough to throw that 69mph meatball 80-100 times every 5 days

[Jacoby_Ellsbury]

Oh yeah, for anyone too thick to figure 'it' out yet, here's a hint for your tiny little brains:

 

To even put the mojo at risk is a sin itself.

 

So for the sake of the Sox, STFU.

 

Understand, yes?

[BoSox21]

The only thing that should keep you on the edge of your seat is if his labrum holds together enough to throw that 69mph meatball 80-100 times every 5 days

 

He's done it for 2+ years now and if he needs to take 3-4 weeks off in June to make it through the season, so be it. I don't think it takes a genius to realize that once Wake goes under the knife to fix the labrum, his career is done

[Cocos Disciples]

Wake also hasn't allowed a HR yet, which is awesome. 1.86 ERA, 0.96 WHIP. He'll come back to earth when he regresses to the mean in terms of allowing hits, but we can enjoy it while it lasts.

[BoSox21]

thats three starts in a row where he eats up a good chunk of the game to give the bullpen some much-needed rest too