Xavier Nady out for the yr

[jacksonianmarch]

http://yankees.lhblogs.com/

 

per Pete Abraham, nothing official, but he'll need elbow surgery and will miss the yr. Well, Swisher will be starting for good. This is a blow to our depth

[msubulldogs21]

Wow. So much for the Swisher/Nady playing time issue.

[BoSox21]

oh wow, this is gonna suck when Nick Swisher turns into Nick Swisher

[TheKilo]

I for one am not pleased, this is good news for the Yankees. Swisher is a better player.

 

I suppose this does mean they have to play Gardner all the time now, though.

[ORS]

Yeah, my thoughts too, Kilo. This saves them from themselves in RF.

[yankees228]

I agree with Kilo and ORS because they should be playing Swisher everyday. However, no matter how you look at it, this hurts the Yankees' depth, which was supposed to be one of their improvements from last year.

[jacksonianmarch]

Agreed. This could help in the long run though once Matsui can play the OF. Matsui is expected to be allowed to try and play the field come the end of May. At that time, Miranda could be recalled and be used in DH situations or as a rest option for Teixeira. Miranda is absolutely killing the ball in the minors. As is AJax.

[Cocos Disciples]

Yeah, the way Swisher has been playing (while he obviously won't be this good, he's still a good player), this isn't so bad.

[BoSox21]

AJax?

 

oh for f***s sake....

[blinx615]

Damnit. He was on my fantasy team >_

[Gom]

Another blessing in disguise. The Yankees are better off without Nady. Swisher will get more ABs, Melky is now the defensive replacement. Another injury in the OF will hurt, but for now, a blessing in disguise. Just like Posada last year.

 

It is any wonder that the three worst pitching performances, all resulting in losses, were with Posada behind the plate?

[yankees228]

Gom, then please explain why Pettitte pitched very well in his first start, and Sabathia did the same in his second start. If you're going to make a comment which appears to put some blame on Posada for some bad outings, then you have to give him credit when there is a good outing. You cannot have it both ways.

 

This is may be ridiculous theory, so please try to stay with me here, but I think it might just be possible that Sabathia didn't have it in his first outing and Wang is off to a terrible start this year...

[Dipre]

Gom, then please explain why Pettitte pitched very well in his first start, and Sabathia did the same in his second start. If you're going to make a comment which appears to put some blame on Posada for some bad outings, then you have to give him credit when there is a good outing. You cannot have it both ways.

 

This is may be ridiculous theory, so please try to stay with me here, but I think it might just be possible that Sabathia didn't have it in his first outing and Wang is off to a terrible start this year...

 

lol Gom was pwn3d.

[diony]

Another blessing in disguise. The Yankees are better off without Nady. Swisher will get more ABs, Melky is now the defensive replacement. Another injury in the OF will hurt, but for now, a blessing in disguise. Just like Posada last year.

 

Sarcasm?

[diony]

Agreed. This could help in the long run though once Matsui can play the OF. Matsui is expected to be allowed to try and play the field come the end of May. At that time' date=' Miranda could be recalled and be used in DH situations or as a rest option for Teixeira. Miranda is absolutely killing the ball in the minors. As is AJax.[/quote']

 

I'm sorry, how can losing Nady for the season help?

[Dipre]

I'm gonna go ahead and guess he wasn't talking about playing Matsui in the Outfield, thus turning the outfield defense into a tribute to suckitude and playing Miranda's unproven bat over Nady's, who is a proven producer.

 

But then again, it's Jacko, and it's just another way to prove what a f***ing retard he is.

[Gom]

Gom, then please explain why Pettitte pitched very well in his first start, and Sabathia did the same in his second start. If you're going to make a comment which appears to put some blame on Posada for some bad outings, then you have to give him credit when there is a good outing. You cannot have it both ways.

 

This is may be ridiculous theory, so please try to stay with me here, but I think it might just be possible that Sabathia didn't have it in his first outing and Wang is off to a terrible start this year...

 

Games started by Molina:

 

April 9: Yankees win 11-2 [burnett]

April 12: Yankees lose 4-6 [Chamberlain]

April 14: Yankees win 7-2 [burnett]

April 15: Yankees win 4-3 [Pettitte]

 

Games started by Posada:

 

April 6: Yankees lose 5-10 [sabathia]

April 8: Yankees lose 5-7 [Wang]

April 10: Yankees win 4-1 [Pettitte]

April 11: Yankees win 6-1 [sabathia]

April 13: Yankees lose 5-15 [Wang]

 

As a starter, Posada is 2-3, and Molina is 3-1. Last year, the Yankees pitching overachieved, and Mussina won 20 games for the first time in his career. Wonder why? Idiots like diaper can't figure it out.

 

A catcher has the greatest defensive impact on the game, IMO. Molina is great at stopping the running game, but his biggest asset by far is his ability to steal strikes. I've never seen anyone better at framing pitches in my life. [With due respect to Ausmus, who I've never really seen play, but I've heard is tremendous at it].

 

Just watch when Molina catches a game. Watch how he frames nearly every pitch. Then watch Posada. He does the opposite. Borderline pitches are called balls because he drops his glove on nearly every pitch to the ground.

 

I said it last year when Posada got hurt. It was a blessing in disguise for the Yankees pitching staff.

 

Molina is atrocious at the plate. Posada is worse in the field. What is unbelievably frustrating is that if he just FRAMED a pitch...held his glove instead of dropping it to the ground, he'd be an amazing overall catcher. It's sickening.

[Dipre]

Games started by Molina:

 

April 9: Yankees win 11-2 [burnett]

April 12: Yankees lose 4-6 [Chamberlain]

April 14: Yankees win 7-2 [burnett]

April 15: Yankees win 4-3 [Pettitte]

 

Games started by Posada:

 

April 6: Yankees lose 5-10 [sabathia]

April 8: Yankees lose 5-7 [Wang]

April 10: Yankees win 4-1 [Pettitte]

April 11: Yankees win 6-1 [sabathia]

April 13: Yankees lose 5-15 [Wang]

 

As a starter, Posada is 2-3, and Molina is 3-1. Last year, the Yankees pitching overachieved, and Mussina won 20 games for the first time in his career. Wonder why? Idiots like diaper can't figure it out.

 

A catcher has the greatest defensive impact on the game, IMO. Molina is great at stopping the running game, but his biggest asset by far is his ability to steal strikes. I've never seen anyone better at framing pitches in my life. [With due respect to Ausmus, who I've never really seen play, but I've heard is tremendous at it].

 

Just watch when Molina catches a game. Watch how he frames nearly every pitch. Then watch Posada. He does the opposite. Borderline pitches are called balls because he drops his glove on nearly every pitch to the ground.

 

I said it last year when Posada got hurt. It was a blessing in disguise for the Yankees pitching staff.

 

Molina is atrocious at the plate. Posada is worse in the field. What is unbelievably frustrating is that if he just FRAMED a pitch...held his glove instead of dropping it to the ground, he'd be an amazing overall catcher. It's sickening.

 

Listen, nincompoop, first things first, just for the record, i agree with you that trotting out Jose Molina over Jorge Posada to call out a ballgame will, in a slight manner, be beneficial to a pitching staff, however, if you think that the "game calling prowess" exhibited by Molina is enough to offset the drop in offensive production and can have a profound effect on already elite, battle-tested pitchers, then you, my friend, deserve to ride the short bus.Everyday.For the rest of your life.

[26 to 6]

Miranda is garbage. I hope he keeps doing well in the minors so the yankees can trade him and possibly get some value. he's never going to amount to much in the big leagues, he just doesn't have it from what I've seen.

 

But this does suck, I like Nady a lot. It's nice to see Swisher playing the way he is, so we're not really losing much, if anything in terms of production. I'm not sure about defensively, just with my eyes I think Nady might be slightly better, but I dont have their defensive numbers in front of me so I could be wrong, But there's not that much of a difference. Main thing it hurts is our depth which is unfortunate. I haven't seen anything on a roster move with nady going on the DL, but apparently Kevin Russo and Austin Jackson were pulled from Scranton's game tonight. Idk if they would consider bringing up Jackson and just lit him sit the bench, which wouldn't be good for his development, or if they would work him in there with plenty of playing time or just leave him in AAA and play everyday, but Russo could be an upgrade over Ransom at third.

[Gom]

Listen' date=' nincompoop, first things first, just for the record, i agree with you that trotting out Jose Molina over Jorge Posada to call out a ballgame will, in a slight manner, be beneficial to a pitching staff, however, if you think that the "game calling prowess" exhibited by Molina is enough to offset the drop in offensive production and can have a profound effect on already elite, battle-tested pitchers, then you, my friend, deserve to ride the short bus.Everyday.For the rest of your life.[/quote']

 

Which shows why you know nothing about this game.

 

It has nothing to do with the pitchers, you ignoramus. It has to do with the umpires. Stealing strikes. Framing pitches. The fact that you think this is a "slight" improvement shows the only time you ever played the game is on your Playstation.

 

See, I call things before they happen. Like my off-season plans, and my belief that Posada's injury would be a blessing in disguise. The reason why the Yankees suffered when Posada got hurt was not when Molina caught. It was when Moeller and the others caught. Poor defensive catchers who couldn't hit either. Posada brings at least one aspect to the game, his offense. A platoon of Posada and Molina will yield a much improved team, because Posada replaces Moeller, not Molina when compaing to last year.

 

You really are the dumbest person I've ever argued with here. Seriously. The reason is that you actually think you're intelligent. This is not a compliment. I wouldn't even let you cut my grass. You might hurt yourself.

[yankees228]

Games started by Molina:

 

April 9: Yankees win 11-2 [burnett]

April 12: Yankees lose 4-6 [Chamberlain]

April 14: Yankees win 7-2 [burnett]

April 15: Yankees win 4-3 [Pettitte]

 

Games started by Posada:

 

April 6: Yankees lose 5-10 [sabathia]

April 8: Yankees lose 5-7 [Wang]

April 10: Yankees win 4-1 [Pettitte]

April 11: Yankees win 6-1 [sabathia]

April 13: Yankees lose 5-15 [Wang]

 

As a starter, Posada is 2-3, and Molina is 3-1. Last year, the Yankees pitching overachieved, and Mussina won 20 games for the first time in his career. Wonder why? Idiots like diaper can't figure it out.

 

A catcher has the greatest defensive impact on the game, IMO. Molina is great at stopping the running game, but his biggest asset by far is his ability to steal strikes. I've never seen anyone better at framing pitches in my life. [With due respect to Ausmus, who I've never really seen play, but I've heard is tremendous at it].

 

Just watch when Molina catches a game. Watch how he frames nearly every pitch. Then watch Posada. He does the opposite. Borderline pitches are called balls because he drops his glove on nearly every pitch to the ground.

 

I said it last year when Posada got hurt. It was a blessing in disguise for the Yankees pitching staff.

 

Molina is atrocious at the plate. Posada is worse in the field. What is unbelievably frustrating is that if he just FRAMED a pitch...held his glove instead of dropping it to the ground, he'd be an amazing overall catcher. It's sickening.

 

First off, your original comment was referring to a total of 8 games. That proves nothing. It is an incredibly small sample size.

 

Molina is a better defensive catcher than Posada. I'm not going to disagree with you there. But Posada is a much better offensive player than Molina. I understand that it helps to have a terrific defensive catcher that is capable of doing all of those things with Molina, but the Yankees have won before with Posada as their catcher and they can do it again. And I love how you cite last year as an example while attempting to prove your point. I know people got hurt, but outside of Mussina, Yankee pitchers were not particularly successful last year.

 

It comes down to this, if the pitchers are doing their job, in the long run, they won't lose too much with Posada behind the plate. As I said in my last post, in the three starts you cited from this year, the pitchers did a poor job. Sometimes you don't need to look for a complicated answer to a problem, and this is an example. Wang (X2) and Sabathia didn't do their jobs.

 

Over the course of an entire season, the Yankees are a better team with Posada behind the plate, as long as Matsui is healthy and can DH.

[yankees228]

And wait, I didn't notice when you said that Yankee pitchers overachieved last year. Outside of Mussina, which I acknowledged, most of them did not. Take a look at the numbers.

[diony]

Four games with Molina, biggest sample size ever.

[Gom]

First off, your original comment was referring to a total of 8 games. That proves nothing. It is an incredibly small sample size.

 

Molina is a better defensive catcher than Posada. I'm not going to disagree with you there. But Posada is a much better offensive player than Molina. I understand that it helps to have a terrific defensive catcher that is capable of doing all of those things with Molina, but the Yankees have won before with Posada as their catcher and they can do it again. And I love how you cite last year as an example while attempting to prove your point. I know people got hurt, but outside of Mussina, Yankee pitchers were not particularly successful last year.

 

It comes down to this, if the pitchers are doing their job, in the long run, they won't lose too much with Posada behind the plate. As I said in my last post, in the three starts you cited from this year, the pitchers did a poor job. Sometimes you don't need to look for a complicated answer to a problem, and this is an example. Wang (X2) and Sabathia didn't do their jobs.

 

Over the course of an entire season, the Yankees are a better team with Posada behind the plate, as long as Matsui is healthy and can DH.

 

You know what this reminds me of? People are only now understanding defense. This explains why Abreu didn't get any offers close to what he was expecting, and Dunn. How do you quantify catchers? Soon, I hope, someone much smarter than anyone here will come up with something and then you'll notice that Posada is the Abreu of catchers, and Molina is the Ozzie Smith of catchers.

 

Look, I like Posada. The Yankees are a better team with him. However, what he gives offensively is given back defensively. Same with Molina. I think the Yankees win more games with Molina than with Posada. However, they win more with Posada than any other backup catcher they may have.

 

As for the pitchers, Wang was 9-2 and Mussina was amazing. Now, I think for pitchers who live on the corners, like Mussina, Molina is irreplaceable. Pitchers like AJ or CC or Joba will not be as affected as pitchers such as Pettitte or Moose.

 

Anyways, back to the subject....the Nady injury won't hurt that much. Swisher is the better player overall, and you'll have a rotation of Swisher, Damon, and Melky for two spots, and this will allow Posada to DH more.

[yankees228]

You know what this reminds me of? People are only now understanding defense. This explains why Abreu didn't get any offers close to what he was expecting, and Dunn. How do you quantify catchers? Soon, I hope, someone much smarter than anyone here will come up with something and then you'll notice that Posada is the Abreu of catchers, and Molina is the Ozzie Smith of catchers.

 

Look, I like Posada. The Yankees are a better team with him. However, what he gives offensively is given back defensively. Same with Molina. I think the Yankees win more games with Molina than with Posada. However, they win more with Posada than any other backup catcher they may have.

 

As for the pitchers, Wang was 9-2 and Mussina was amazing. Now, I think for pitchers who live on the corners, like Mussina, Molina is irreplaceable. Pitchers like AJ or CC or Joba will not be as affected as pitchers such as Pettitte or Moose.

 

Anyways, back to the subject....the Nady injury won't hurt that much. Swisher is the better player overall, and you'll have a rotation of Swisher, Damon, and Melky for two spots, and this will allow Posada to DH more.

 

You're making your comparison at the top based on nothing. You're not using anything to back it up. So that point really doesn't do anything to my opinion.

 

And are you really using wins to define the success of pitchers?

 

I'm contending that Posada is adequate, nothing special, but they've been a pretty successful team in the past with him as the everyday catcher...

 

And I'll get back to the subject as well. If Matsui is healthy they need him to DH. The Yankees are a better team with him in the lineup.

[CrespoBlows]

Please start Molina.

[jacksonianmarch]

I'm gonna go ahead and guess he wasn't talking about playing Matsui in the Outfield, thus turning the outfield defense into a tribute to suckitude and playing Miranda's unproven bat over Nady's, who is a proven producer.

 

But then again, it's Jacko, and it's just another way to prove what a f***ing retard he is.

 

It is truly difficult to explain anything to the idiots of the planet, but here goes.

 

I loved Nady, and I am upset he is gone. I think in the short term, this team suffers with his loss. But when I use the term, "long-term", I mean longer than the short term. I thought that was implied, but then again, I need to consider my audience. Nady is a 1 yr guy. I think its pretty easy to see. Boras is the agent, he's coming off a big 08 and he isnt really the type of player we lock up long term (lacks patience). So, as a 1 yr player, he is not a long term player. Juan Miranda, OTOH, could be a long term player as we control him for 6 major league seasons. He has done nothing but hit and show patience in the minor leagues and he has come out gangbusters this season. If we find a way to get him into the lineup on a semi-regular basis and prove he is more than a AAAA player, than this team benefits in the long run from Nady's absence. I think there is some benefit in the short term by getting Swisher in the lineup, but having Nady as the short term insurance policy would have been really nice.

 

Also, for Gom and the rest, losing Posada last yr was #1a reason why we werent in the playoffs. Yes, he gives something back defensively. But to say that you'd rather Molina catch is pushing it. Molina gave back nearly 300 points of OPS. I dont care how good a defensive whiz the fat man is, he does not make up a 300 point OPS drop. Without Posada, this lineup went from being patient in every hole, to having an absolute black hole in the lineup that lacked patience and speed. He is an absolute, 100% liability in the lineup.

[BSN07]

Which shows why you know nothing about this game.

 

It has nothing to do with the pitchers, you ignoramus. It has to do with the umpires. Stealing strikes. Framing pitches. The fact that you think this is a "slight" improvement shows the only time you ever played the game is on your Playstation.

 

See, I call things before they happen. Like my off-season plans, and my belief that Posada's injury would be a blessing in disguise. The reason why the Yankees suffered when Posada got hurt was not when Molina caught. It was when Moeller and the others caught. Poor defensive catchers who couldn't hit either. Posada brings at least one aspect to the game, his offense. A platoon of Posada and Molina will yield a much improved team, because Posada replaces Moeller, not Molina when compaing to last year.

 

You really are the dumbest person I've ever argued with here. Seriously. The reason is that you actually think you're intelligent. This is not a compliment. I wouldn't even let you cut my grass. You might hurt yourself.

 

Sign the top 3 free agents, total shocker and something the Yankees have never done before:lol:

 

So insightful on your behalf;)

[riverside sluggers]

Damn big loss for the Yanks

[26 to 6]

Anyone know what the damn roster move is gonna be!?