ARod tested positive

[TheKilo]

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/baseball/mlb/02/07/alex-rodriguez-steroids/index.html?eref=T1

 

In 2003, when he won the American League home run title and the AL Most Valuable Player award as a shortstop for the Texas Rangers, Alex Rodriguez tested positive for two anabolic steroids, four sources have independently told Sports Illustrated.

 

Rodriguez's name appears on a list of 104 players who tested positive for performance-enhancing drugs in Major League Baseball's '03 survey testing, SI's sources say. As part of a joint agreement with the MLB Players Association, the testing was conducted to determine if it was necessary to impose mandatory random drug testing across the major leagues in 2004.

 

When approached by an SI reporter on Thursday at a gym in Miami, Rodriguez declined to discuss his 2003 test results. "You'll have to talk to the union," said Rodriguez, the Yankees' third baseman since his trade to New York in February 2004. When asked if there was an explanation for his positive test, he said, "I'm not saying anything."

 

Because more than 5% of big leaguers had tested positive in 2003, baseball instituted a mandatory random-testing program, with penalties, in '04. According to the 2007 Mitchell Report on steroid use in baseball, in September 2004, Gene Orza, the chief operating officer of the players' union, violated an agreement with MLB by tipping off a player (not named in the report) about an upcoming, supposedly unannounced drug test. Three major league players who spoke to SI said that Rodriguez was also tipped by Orza in early September 2004 that he would be tested later that month. Rodriguez declined to respond on Thursday when asked about the warning Orza provided him.

When Orza was asked on Friday in the union's New York City office about the tipping allegations, he told a reporter, "I'm not interested in discussing this information with you."

[ACL BoSox]

Honestly, is anyone suprised?

[26 to 6]

GOD DAMNIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

DAMNIT DAMNIT DAMNIT DAMNIT DAMNIT f*** s*** PISS f*** f*** f***ITY f*** PISS ********** ****RAG MOTHERf***ER DAMNIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

From SI - http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/baseball/mlb/02/07/alex-rodriguez-steroids/index.html?eref=T1

 

f***!!!!!!!!!!

[a700hitter]

So much for the reverence in which he was being held, because he supposedly had been clean.

[TheKilo]

Beat you to it in the Yankee forum

 

The Orza stuff is much, much more damaging IMO

[Jacoby_Ellsbury]

pwned

[26 to 6]

yeah just saw your thread after I posted this, my bad. If a mod wants to throw my post in his thread and delete this one feel free to do so.

 

 

I agree. f*** Orza and f*** A-Rod. Should have let him walk last year. DAMNIT!!!

[Jacoby_Ellsbury]

Well, guess I'm right for laughing every time someone said 'A-Rod is a worthy home run king because he did it the right way'. f***tards.

[26 to 6]

pwned

How do you figure? f*** off pal nobody gives a s*** what you have to say right now.

[Jacoby_Ellsbury]

How do you figure?

 

Everyone kept saying how clean he was, as if they knew, like how he'd be a worthy home run king because he's doing it the right way. Well, apparently he is not. pwned.

 

f*** off pal nobody gives a s*** what you have to say right now.

 

Okay my Italian yankee fan friend. Doesn't it irritate you that all your best players have been avid steroid users? DAYUM.

 

 

Roid trophy for NYY.

[a700hitter]

Just in time for Spring Training. There should be about 800 reporters waiting for him at his locker in Tampa. He'll probably need about 3 more shrinks. i expect that he'll hit .260 and make 40+ errors this season. I never understood the universal acceptance of the notion that he was clean. He must of had dozens of writers and media members on his payroll.

[TheKilo]

[youtube=ARod on 60 Minutes]oVcqLt9sJLs

[26 to 6]

Well, guess I'm right for laughing every time someone said 'A-Rod is a worthy home run king because he did it the right way'. f***tards

 

Shut up already will you. This goes way beyond a Yankee-Red Sox beef. Let that aspect of it go. All this does is prove that it was so wide-spread and that the Mitchell Report, comprised of information primarily gathered from 2 NY sources, was far from a complete list of users. For every Yankee who used theres a Detroit Tiger, Philadelphia Philly, Boston Red Sox, Chicago Cub, Oakland Athletic (or 2), Minnesota Twin, Atlanta Brave, SF Giant (or 7) who did the same thing.

 

This really f***ed up our game. It's great that we're cleaning it up, which we can see between the lines with so many former All-stars hitting early declines, so many players who once considered great out of work or without a guaranteed job, the shrinking contract figures (of course most of that is attributed to the economy, but I think this has something to do with it as well), less HRs, etc. It's unfortunate that it comes it such a painful cost for the fans who have to learn of the sin of many of their former players. I'm not too upset about this, more shocked. but when Clemens was outed for example, I was devestated. This is the only way though and as hard as it is we deserve to know. I'm just disgusted right now.

[Jacoby_Ellsbury]

Well, this should just about take care of Gay-Rod's performance for 2009.

[a700hitter]

LMAO over the 60 minutes interview.

[TheKilo]

Shut up already will you. This goes way beyond a Yankee-Red Sox beef. Let that aspect of it go. All this does is prove that it was so wide-spread and that the Mitchell Report, comprised of information primarily gathered from 2 NY sources, was far from a complete list of users. For every Yankee who used theres a Detroit Tiger, Philadelphia Philly, Boston Red Sox, Chicago Cub, Oakland Athletic (or 2), Minnesota Twin, Atlanta Brave, SF Giant (or 7) who did the same thing.

 

This really f***ed up our game. It's great that we're cleaning it up, which we can see between the lines with so many former All-stars hitting early declines, so many players who once considered great out of work or without a guaranteed job, the shrinking contract figures (of course most of that is attributed to the economy, but I think this has something to do with it as well), less HRs, etc. It's unfortunate that it comes it such a painful cost for the fans who have to learn of the sin of many of their former players. I'm not too upset about this, more shocked. but when Clemens was outed for example, I was devestated. This is the only way though and as hard as it is we deserve to know. I'm just disgusted right now.

 

 

 

I hope that wasn't directed at me.

 

MLB Network is doing a great job of covering this right now.

[Jacoby_Ellsbury]

Shut up already will you. This goes way beyond a Yankee-Red Sox beef.

 

Neaux

 

This really f***ed up our game.

 

And A-Rod's season.

 

 

 

God dammit where's Jacko? Too bad I got s*** to do today, this is the kind of thing I could torture Yankee fans all day with, their best player being a roid popper and all.

[TheKilo]

Please keep in mind there were no penalties in 2003 for steroid use.

 

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3890785

 

According to the report, which was posted Saturday morning on SI.com, sources told the publication that Rodriguez was on a list of 104 players who tested positive that year, when Major League Baseball conducted tests to see if mandatory random drug testing was needed.

 

In 2003, there were no penalties for a positive result.

[a700hitter]

Shut up already will you. This goes way beyond a Yankee-Red Sox beef. Let that aspect of it go. All this does is prove that it was so wide-spread and that the Mitchell Report, comprised of information primarily gathered from 2 NY sources, was far from a complete list of users. For every Yankee who used theres a Detroit Tiger, Philadelphia Philly, Boston Red Sox, Chicago Cub, Oakland Athletic (or 2), Minnesota Twin, Atlanta Brave, SF Giant (or 7) who did the same thing.

 

This really f***ed up our game. It's great that we're cleaning it up, which we can see between the lines with so many former All-stars hitting early declines, so many players who once considered great out of work or without a guaranteed job, the shrinking contract figures (of course most of that is attributed to the economy, but I think this has something to do with it as well), less HRs, etc. It's unfortunate that it comes it such a painful cost for the fans who have to learn of the sin of many of their former players. I'm not too upset about this, more shocked. but when Clemens was outed for example, I was devestated. This is the only way though and as hard as it is we deserve to know. I'm just disgusted right now.

But it just seems to keep biting the Yankees. No excuses here al la the whiney complaints about the Mitchell Report that the two major sources were NY guys (McNamee and Radomski). I can hardly wait for the criminal conviction of those two pigs Clemens and Bonds.

[26 to 6]

Everyone kept saying how clean he was, as if they knew, like how he'd be a worthy home run king because he's doing it the right way. Well, apparently he is not. pwned.

 

 

 

Okay my Italian yankee fan friend. Doesn't it irritate you that all your best players have been avid steroid users? DAYUM.

 

 

Roid trophy for NYY.

I thought you were saying i was owned...which wasn't the case. but if you want to be a 13 year old nerd and use the expression "pwned" feel free. (Where did the P come from anyway, I see that more and more now, I just dont get it though)

 

Okay my Italian yankee fan friend. Doesn't it irritate you that all your best teams have been littered with steroid users? DAYUM.

 

 

Roid trophy for NYY.

That's where you're wrong. You're not seeing the big picture, you're just loving the fact that a Yankee got pinched for jucing again, and you're soakign it in and reveling in it and enjoying it. What you should be feeling is concern. This just proves even more so how wide spread it is, and that just because mainly NY guys were outed in the Mitchell Report (which got it's information primarily from NY sources, go figure) doesn't mean that the problem didn't exist outside of NY and the bay Area. s***, A-Rod was in Texas in 2003 when he tested positive. Every team has or had players who used at one time, you can deny that your beloved Red Sox fall into this category all you want but you're straight up in denial.

[a700hitter]

Please keep in mind there were no penalties in 2003 for steroid use.

 

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3890785

There were no penalties for cheating in 2003. Would that be considered an oxymoron?

[Jacoby_Ellsbury]

but if you want to be a 13 year old nerd and use the expression "pwned" feel free.

 

I will.

 

That's where you're wrong. You're not seeing the big picture, you're just loving the fact that a Yankee got pinched for jucing again, and you're soakign it in and reveling in it and enjoying it. What you should be feeling is concern. This just proves even more so how wide spread it is, and that just because mainly NY guys were outed in the Mitchell Report (which got it's information primarily from NY sources, go figure) doesn't mean that the problem didn't exist outside of NY and the bay Area. s***, A-Rod was in Texas in 2003 when he tested positive. Every team has or had players who used at one time, you can deny that your beloved Red Sox fall into this category all you want but you're straight up in denial.

 

Name 'em up.

[BoSox21]

Honestly' date=' is anyone suprised?[/quote']

 

Not surprised that he used, but surprised that the fact that arguably baseball's best player tested positive for steroids was kept secret for 5 years

[Jacoby_Ellsbury]

Please keep in mind there were no penalties in 2003 for steroid use.

 

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3890785

 

If that's geared at the A-Rod's season comment... I meant that as in, well, he's a pretty sensitive player, and having this hanging over his head probably won't help his emotions over the course of 09.

[diony]

2003? He wasn't even a Yankee back then, so I don't care much.

[TheKilo]

We'll know soon enough, there's 103 other players on that list.

 

Wouldn't shock me to find Ortiz, Pedro, or Manny on the list.

[BoSox21]

I'd really love to see the other 103 players on that list though

[TheKilo]

2003? He wasn't even a Yankee back then' date=' so I don't care much.[/quote']

 

http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/spin.jpg

 

He was tipped off in 2004 by Orza, which IMO is the larger offense and he was a Yankee then.

[TheKilo]

If that's geared at the A-Rod's season comment... I meant that as in' date=' well, he's a pretty sensitive player, and having this hanging over his head probably won't help his emotions over the course of 09.[/quote']

 

No, just a general statement.

 

IMO the Orza stuff is the juicy item here, he's going to be in BIG trouble if that's true.

[26 to 6]

Nobody's making excuses at all, none of what any of them did was right. But it's easy for you guys to all point fingers and laugh at the Yankees considering we had the most players get outed. Reason for that is the sources. If there was a New England source providing information to Mitchell we would hear about more Red Sox. I can't believe how ignorant some of you guys are being just pointing and laughing at the Yankees. EVERYONE WAS DOING IT, from Roger Clemens, to David Segui, to Alex Rodriguez, to Craig Biggio, to Jose Canseco, to this one and that one and so on and so forth. It's sickening, my stomach is upside down right now.

 

I hope that wasn't directed at me.

Na, your post was made 2 mins before mine while I was still typing. I should have quoted, my bad.