Dusty Brown ON FIRE in the Dominican Winter Leagues.

[Dipre]

He's hitting:

 

2008 Winter League

Team League

AZU DWL

AVG G AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI TB BB SO SB CS OBP SLG OPS

.318 13 44 8 14 0 0 1 6 17 7 9 0 0 .386 .820

 

During his first 14 games.

 

I saw him play against my hometown Licey Tigers the other day, and he hit a go-ahead, 3-run homer in the 8th inning (eventual game winner), threw out a runner, blocked 2 possible wild pitches, also hit a single and scored a run, took a BB to reach base 3 times.

 

And tonight, against Gigantes Del Cibao lefty Fabio Castro he just hit and RBI double in the first inning AND threw out a would-be basestealer at 2nd.

 

So make that 7 RBI and a double.

 

Dude has some tools.

[BigPapiEnFuego]

Glad to hear this. Thanks

[Dojji]

I wish Brown were a little younger. If he was 24 or 25 and doing what he did this year in AAA then using him as the heir to 'Tek would probably be a lot more popular a solution. He's looking like one of those guys who does everything pretty well -- but he's 26 in his first year of AAA and 1 bad Spring away from permanent AAAA status (which is a big reason why I *HATE* the term) as a 27 year old catcher in AAA.

 

This guy looks very much like he's broken through but the problem is he doesn't really have any time left to prove it before he's 27 and officially off the radar screen. If he wants to be anything more than an also-ran he needs to make a big league roster this year.

[Dipre]

IMHO, Sox sent him over here for the winter so he has a chance to prove he deserves a shot, since this is one of the toughest leagues around (probably above AAA), plus this league beats Philly and NY for Most.Annoying.Fans.Ever, if a foreigner can keep his cool in this league and produce, which he's doing on offense and defense, chances are you'll get a shot to prove yourself at the Bigs.

 

That is, of course, unless the Sox acquire Russell Martin or one of the Texas big 3, (3,'cause Laird, really?, come on.....), otherwise he'll probably have a shot.

[Crazy Rob]

IMHO, Sox sent him over here for the winter so he has a chance to prove he deserves a shot, since this is one of the toughest leagues around (probably above AAA), plus this league beats Philly and NY for Most.Annoying.Fans.Ever, if a foreigner can keep his cool in this league and produce, which he's doing on offense and defense, chances are you'll get a shot to prove yourself at the Bigs.

 

That is, of course, unless the Sox acquire Russell Martin or one of the Texas big 3, (3,'cause Laird, really?, come on.....), otherwise he'll probably have a shot.

 

i would like to see paul lo duca be our catcher to be honest.

[Cocos Disciples]

i would like to see paul lo duca be our catcher to be honest.

 

That is not a good idea.

[CrespoBlows]

i would like to see paul lo duca be our catcher to be honest.

 

Lo Duca couldn't cut it with the Nationals. Do you really believe he can do it with Boston?

[Crazy Rob]

That is not a good idea.

 

Probably right. But the guy doesn't strike out I like that in a lower order hitter

[CrespoBlows]

Probably right. But the guy doesn't strike out I like that in a lower order hitter

 

Would you rather have a player that hits for a higher average, gets on base more, and has some power, but strikes out a little bit more, or a player who is 37 years old, has hit for little power, and has shown a decline in most areas of his game?

[Dipre]

Would you rather have a player that hits for a higher average' date=' gets on base more, and has some power, but strikes out a little bit more, or a player who is 37 years old, has hit for little power, and has shown a decline in most areas of his game?[/quote']

 

And is/was a juicer?, and has absolutely no defensive attributes at this point in time?

[SCM33]

Hittin .318 with 1 HR and 7 RBI in the winter leagues really isnt on fire is it? More like luke warm bath water.

[Dojji]

.800+ OPS for a catcher is always very, very good, and so is a .300+ AVG. Yeah, AVG doesn't count for much, but if a guy's making good contact, the power will usually come.

 

I don't concern myself with lack of power when we're dealing with small sample sizes since it often stems from lack of opportunity rather than lack of skill. He's getting on base at a tremendous rate and that matters more to me. Besides, we know that Brown can hit for a bit of power since he's had decent SLG the last couple seasons in AA and AAA and the question for him right now is consistency, which a high OBP is the best possible sign to answer.

[Dipre]

Hittin .318 with 1 HR and 7 RBI in the winter leagues really isnt on fire is it? More like luke warm bath water.

 

 

.447 OBP, .856 OPS through 18 games, you don't like?

[Dojji]

People underestimate Brown incredibly round here. Soxprospects.com says that he's probably a solid big league backup catcher right now and has the talent to earn his way into a starting role.

 

There's a reason I'm fine with a Kottaras-Brown platoon, and not just because I think Kottaras will evolve into a 20-HR big league catcher. Brown is a talented catcher in his own right and is exactly what Boston likes in a catcher with his patience and approach.

 

Half the teams in baseball, Brown would have been up midseason last year. It's possible with our unique catcher situation we're the only team in the majors for whom Brown would not have debuted last year in fact. And even there -- Brown's qualified to handle the knuckler and if something happened to Cash or Tek he's probably the first one up as emergency filler.

 

Give the kid a chance and I bet he'll pleasantly surprise us all. He's certainly got the talent, the only question is will he use his opportunities well enough to stick here, or will he become one of those journeyman backups that flit around the league for awhile until they stick with a situation they can thrive in.

[diony]

AAAA

[Dojji]

AAAA

 

 

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[diony]

^ Greatest post ever.

[Dojji]

I loathe the term AAAA when applied to non-debuted players. How the heck do we know whether a guy who happens to be 27 years or above in age might not become a perfectly good big leaguer if given a shot?

 

AAAA should be reserved for true tweeners like Shane Costa or David Pauley who do all right in AAA but never manage to do anything when given a look in the big leagues. Not guys like Brown or Bailey who might do fine if they could only be actually given a chance.

[Dipre]

I loathe the term AAAA when applied to non-debuted players. How the heck do we know whether a guy who happens to be 27 years or above in age might not become a perfectly good big leaguer if given a shot?

 

AAAA should be reserved for true tweeners like Shane Costa or David Pauley who do all right in AAA but never manage to do anything when given a look in the big leagues. Not guys like Brown or Bailey who might do fine if they could only be actually given a chance.

 

Because some people say stupid stuff just to piss others off, specially if said person is a die-hard yankee fan and despises all things Red Sox.

[diony]

Yeah is not like it took him 6 years to reach AAA and put the first above average season if his minor league career.

[BSN07]

Yeah is not like it took him 6 years to reach AAA and put the first above average season if his minor league career.

 

This is why I can't consider him as an everyday C for the Sox. Possibly the back up, but that's it.

 

But who knows he could be a really late bloomer:lol:

[Dipre]

Yeah is not like it took him 6 years to reach AAA and put the first above average season if his minor league career.

 

A la Jason Varitek?

 

And since when did you become a scout/talent evaluator?

 

Like there're no late bloomers in baseball AT ALL.

 

Besides, it's not like anyone says he'd be a long-term solution for the Sox at the C position.

 

You gotta stop talking outta your ass, mister.

[diony]

A la Jason Varitek?

 

Varitek started his minor league career at AA. Took him less than 3 years to debut with the Red Sox in 1997, or well 1998.

 

Way to go dude.:harhar:

[Dipre]

Varitek started his minor league career at AA. Took him less than 3 years to debut with the Red Sox in 1997, or well 1998.

 

Way to go dude.:harhar:

 

Nope, he was drafted in 1993, played in an independent league, THEN signed with Seattle nearly 2 years later.

 

Get your facts right or:

 

http://keyth.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/stfu_yoda.jpg

[diony]

Nope, he was drafted in 1993, played in an independent league, THEN signed with Seattle nearly 2 years later.

 

Get your facts right or:

 

Lame.

 

He was drafted in 1993 by the Twins and he did not sign. Then he was drafted again by the Mariners in 1994, then signed to play an Independent League until he finally agreed terms with them and started playing in the Mariners' minor league system in 1995.

 

Know Google? Yeah I think you do, because you googled that picture just to make an ass out of yourself. Posting a 'Yoda' pic to prove a point, pathetic. Great job, know take time and do some research, and get to know your OWN players.

 

How a 1st round player like Varitek compares to Dusty Brown? Because according to you Brown did it "A la Varitek". It took Brown from 2001 to 2008 to put his first 'above average' season in the minors. What a joke. Comparing Varitek to a 3rd Catcher, wooho. :thumbsup:

[Cocos Disciples]

 

http://keyth.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/stfu_yoda.jpg

 

I lol'd.

[Dipre]

Lame.

 

He was drafted in 1993 by the Twins and he did not sign. Then he was drafted again by the Mariners in 1994, then signed to play an Independent League until he finally agreed terms with them and started playing in the Mariners' minor league system in 1995.

 

Know Google? Yeah I think you do, because you googled that picture just to make an ass out of yourself. Posting a 'Yoda' pic to prove a point, pathetic. Great job, know take time and do some research, and get to know your OWN players.

 

How a 1st round player like Varitek compares to Dusty Brown? Because according to you Brown did it "A la Varitek". It took Brown from 2001 to 2008 to put his first 'above average' season in the minors. What a joke. Comparing Varitek to a 3rd Catcher, wooho. :thumbsup:

 

But we're talking about late bloomers, and 'Tek didn't earn his starting spot until age '26, the reasons are irrelevant, but the fact is that Varitek didn't become an offensive and defensive star unti 2000, or age 28, so i don't get what's your point, meddling yankee fan, because if a catcher becomes a star at age 28, that, is a late bloomer isn't it?

 

Don't you have people to annoy in your yankee forum so you can stop boring me with your ********?

[diony]

But we're talking about late bloomers, and 'Tek didn't earn his starting spot until age '26, the reasons are irrelevant, but the fact is that Varitek didn't become an offensive and defensive star unti 2000, or age 28, so i don't get what's your point, meddling yankee fan, because if a catcher becomes a star at age 28, that, is a late bloomer isn't it?

 

Don't you have people to annoy in your yankee forum so you can stop boring me with your ********?

 

Hmm what? You totally changed the subject.

 

All I said it took Dusty Brown like 6 years to go from A- to AAA, where he finally putted an above 'average season', (even if his K% was around 28% that's kinda close to Adam Dunn's). You claim he did it "A la Varitek". How is that "A la Varitek"?

 

At age 26, Tek was already in the majors fighting to get the starting role. At that age Dusty Brown was splitting time in AAA with Kottaras.

 

At age 27, and his first MLB full season, Tek hitted .269/.330/.482 with 20 HRs. Next year, Brown will probably do that, yeah in the International League, during his 9th season in the minor leagues.

 

So how's that "A la Varitek"?

[Dipre]

Hmm what? You totally changed the subject.

 

All I said it took Dusty Brown like 6 years to go from A- to AAA, where he finally putted an above 'average season', (even if his K% was around 28% that's kinda close to Adam Dunn's). You claim he did it "A la Varitek". How is that "A la Varitek"?

 

At age 26, Tek was already in the majors fighting to get the starting role. At that age Dusty Brown was splitting time in AAA with Kottaras.

 

At age 27, and his first MLB full season, Tek hitted .269/.330/.482 with 20 HRs. Next year, Brown will probably do that, yeah in the International League, during his 9th season in the minor leagues.

 

So how's that "A la Varitek"?

 

 

So you don't think Brown can produce an offensive season near Varitek's first full season, well how do you know that?

 

Through extensive research of his statistics?

 

Or just being a lame-o and coming here to thrash the guy 'cause you wanna be an annoying prick?

 

And btw, FIGHTING for s starting role would be correct, which means he was not regarded a starting catcher at the time and had to earn it.

 

Anyways, why don't you just:

 

http://elriowiel.files.wordpress.com/2007/09/stfu-51136.jpg

[diony]

So you don't think Brown can produce an offensive season near Varitek's first full season, well how do you know that?

 

Through extensive research of his statistics?

 

 

Yeah he has been in the minors or 8 seasons so far, because he's soooooo GOOD. He's the 2nd Catcher of a AAA team, Wow niceee. :thumbsup:

 

If he's so great, why he didn't got a callup while Varitek was hitting like .200 at least as a backup. Maybe because they're not so high on him? Because everyone agrees he got nothing?

 

And he won't put an offensive near Tek's in the majors, because he'll never play a full season in the majors. He was considered the 3rd Catcher for the Red Sox this season, even Cash was ahead of him.

 

So how's that "A la Varitek"?

 

Screw Salty or Teagarden, according to you Dusty Brown is the next Varitek. You showed the greatest arguments ever, based on "Stfu" pics, lame imo.