McPhuture vs. McGowan 4/3/08

[jacksonianmarch]

Albaladejo has a nice heavy ball and a good curve. Its too bad he will be heading to Scranton tomorrow.

[jacksonianmarch]

We get to see another rookie reliever in Ohlendorf now. Kid throws smoke, just has an issue locating his offspeed stuff.

[jacksonianmarch]

It really is amazing how much velocity Ohlie picked up as a reliever. He apparently threw 90s in college, then was converted to the rotation, where he sat high 80s-90. Now that he's back in the pen, he's throwing 95 mph sinkers. Wow.

[a700hitter]

A pen full of Rookies could get lucky, but most likely it will suck.

[jacksonianmarch]

thats why its not full of rookies

[Optimist]

BTW, the yankee bats have arrived. 6-4

 

And disappeared just as quickly.

[jacksonianmarch]

I dont get it. This guy is leaving all of his pitches down the middle and we're swinging like he's throwin 99.

[jacksonianmarch]

4.2IP of scoreless relief. The pen is looking nicely early on

[a700hitter]

thats why its not full of rookies

Three rookies in a pen is "full of rookies as far as I am concerned." It's not like the others like Traber and Bruney are very accomplished. Your vets, Farnsworthless and Latroy are dogs.

[jacksonianmarch]

4 veterans have locked down spots with the setup spot being in the hands of a very capable kid in Joba. The lesser experienced kids like Alby and Ohlie will get weaned in.

[a700hitter]

4 veterans have locked down spots with the setup spot being in the hands of a very capable kid in Joba. The lesser experienced kids like Alby and Ohlie will get weaned in.

Who are the third and fourth veterans?

[jacksonianmarch]

Rivera, Farns, Hawkins, Traber and even Bruney.

[a700hitter]

Rivera' date=' Farns, Hawkins, Traber and even Bruney.[/quote']I view it as two vets that have become s***: Farns and hawkins. Traber and Bruney ... vets? They barely qualify as journeymen.

[jacksonianmarch]

Hawkins looks like the worst of them all.

[a700hitter]

With veterans like that there is no time to "wean" the rookies in. They will be thrown right into the fire.

[jacksonianmarch]

Wow, Hawkins sucks.

 

Here is my prediction. We are down 9-4 right now. The Rays will stay away from Reyes in the 8th due to the lead. We'll get 3 in the 8th, then get one off Percival before dying 9-8 in the ninth.

[Optimist]

Got to love the stadium chanting "Pauly" as Hawkins blows this one.

[jacksonianmarch]

With veterans like that there is no time to "wean" the rookies in. They will be thrown right into the fire.

 

For the first half of the yr, the 8th and 9th are locked down with Joba and Mo. This is what I mean by weaning them in. We arent asking them to be the setup man or the closer. By the time Joba is ready to go to the rotation, one of them may be ready to step up.

[jacksonianmarch]

Holy s***, this Latroy guy is getting torched

[jacksonianmarch]

Hawkins has given up a total of 5ER in his 2 appearances thus far. Those are the only runs allowed by our pen in the 4 games thus far this yr.

[Optimist]

With veterans like this, I'm really loving our rookies.

[a700hitter]

For the first half of the yr' date=' the 8th and 9th are locked down with Joba and Mo. This is what I mean by weaning them in. We arent asking them to be the setup man or the closer. By the time Joba is ready to go to the rotation, one of them may be ready to step up.[/quote']I would not count on that.

[jacksonianmarch]

With veterans like this' date=' I'm really loving our rookies.[/quote']

 

no kidding.

[jacksonianmarch]

Well a700, it all depends on the situation. If our rotation comes together well, then moving Joba to the rotation may not be in the best interests of this club. If our pen falls apart, then keeping Joba in the pen may be the best way to go. It also depends on what the kids do. We have a good amount of young pen arms knocking on the door and a few who'll be knocking on the door later in the yr. We also have a couple starting pitchers knocking on the door and we'll see how they do in AAA (Sanchez, Horne, Marquez). There are more options this yr. We'll just have to figure out which options pay off and which ones hit bust.

[a700hitter]

Did I hear correctly that Girardi is so ill that he is not in the dugout? Did he start the game in the dugout?

[jacksonianmarch]

No, he did not. He is in the clubhouse.

[a700hitter]

Well a700' date=' it all depends on the situation. If our rotation comes together well, then moving Joba to the rotation may not be in the best interests of this club. If our pen falls apart, then keeping Joba in the pen may be the best way to go. It also depends on what the kids do. We have a good amount of young pen arms knocking on the door and a few who'll be knocking on the door later in the yr. We also have a couple starting pitchers knocking on the door and we'll see how they do in AAA (Sanchez, Horne, Marquez). There are more options this yr. We'll just have to figure out which options pay off and which ones hit bust.[/quote']Joba has to stay as the 8th inning guy. Anything else would be disastrous for the pen. You can't have the entire weight of the bullpen on a 37 year old closer. I hope Joba goes into the rotation. It would be a terrible move for the bullpen, and maybe even a terrible move for joba's career.

[jacksonianmarch]

A terrible move for his career? He has 3 lights out pitches and the frame to handle the workload. You have to see if he fails in the rotation before you mandate him to the pen for his career. Relievers have shorter careers and shorter workloads. I'd much rather have Joba in the rotation long term.

[Cocos Disciples]

Can someone enlighten me as to why Girardi is in the clubhouse...?

[jacksonianmarch]

sick