Yankees ST news and notes

[jacksonianmarch]

Heath Phillips was tossed for hitting Longoria. Duncan then slid into second spikes high and drilled Iwamura. Gomes sprinted in from RF and tackled Duncan. Then a brawl broke out.

[rician blast]

Let me see if I have this right...

 

Heath Phillips evens the score/sends a message (retaliation for the CLEAN Johnson/Cervelli play) by hitting Longoria....

 

But that's not enough, and Shelly "The Red Sox Suck" Duncan goes in high and hard on Iwamura?

 

Did Girardi issue a statement saying Duncan's play was inappropriate for a spring training game?

[BudLight]

Let me see if I have this right...

 

Heath Phillips evens the score/sends a message (retaliation for the CLEAN Johnson/Cervelli play) by hitting Longoria....

 

But that's not enough, and Shelly "The Red Sox Suck" Duncan goes in high and hard on Iwamura?

 

Did Girardi issue a statement saying Duncan's play was inappropriate for a spring training game?

 

 

:joke: I think Heath Phillips was just trying to show his manager his aggressive style of play and that he could pitch up and in if need be. Much like Elliot Johnson running over Cervelli the other day was his way of showing his coach that he is an aggressive, hard-nosed player. As for Duncan, he was just trying to help Johnson move up the depth chart for the Rays. If he takes out Iwamura, Johnson moves up the depth chart at 2b and maybe even breaks camp with the Rays. :joke:

[TheKilo]

The starter for the Yankees drilled Longoria for the Rays. The next inning, Duncan goes into second base trying to stretch a single into a double, is dead to rights, and goes in with high spikes to Iwamura. Gomes comes in from right and starts the brawl.

 

In short:

 

1. Shelley Duncan is a dick.

2. THIS IS JOE GIRARDI'S TEAM AND THE YANKEES WON'T GET PUSHED AROUND

3. Shelley Duncan is a dick.

[jacksonianmarch]

Let me see if I have this right...

 

Heath Phillips evens the score/sends a message (retaliation for the CLEAN Johnson/Cervelli play) by hitting Longoria....

 

But that's not enough, and Shelly "The Red Sox Suck" Duncan goes in high and hard on Iwamura?

 

Did Girardi issue a statement saying Duncan's play was inappropriate for a spring training game?

 

Phillips didnt even hit Longoria, he hit his jersey.

[rician blast]

In an interview before the game, Duncan said:

 

"Everything I said, we're still going to go out there and we're going to play the game hard. Just like I said before. They showed us what is acceptable. We're just going to go play the game."

 

Contrast this to Jeter and Posada's comments:

Jeter:

"I don't see why anything would carry over. Why would it carry over? I think it makes for a good story but . . . we're in spring training. I don't see the reason why something should carry over."

Posada:

"Spring training game, guys. Spring training game. Happens. It's a freak accident. Move on. Be able to move on."

 

I guess Duncan can only garner the MLB spotlight by using his mouth and cleats...sadly, to date he's been unable to do so with his baseball ability.

[jacksonianmarch]

not off to a bad start though, 7 homers in his first 70 ABs isnt too bad.

[Optimist]

For someone with such a great story, Gomes is such a punk. I've despised him since he came up in 2005 or whenever.

[TheKilo]

No badmouthing of Duncan from the Yankee contingent? I'm shocked.

[TheKilo]

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[TheKilo]

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3235618950501899284&hl=en

[schillingouttheks]

This is clearly Shelley Duncan's fault. Gomes got pissed off and tackled him, just like I would expect a teammate to do. Phillips already hit someone, whether it was intentional or not. Why could everyone else but Duncan seem to let it go?

[TheKilo]

This is clearly Shelley Duncan's fault. Gomes got pissed off and tackled him' date=' just like I would expect a teammate to do. Phillips already hit someone, whether it was intentional or not. Why could everyone else but Duncan seem to let it go?[/quote']

 

The starter for the Yankees drilled Longoria for the Rays. The next inning, Duncan goes into second base trying to stretch a single into a double, is dead to rights, and goes in with high spikes to Iwamura. Gomes comes in from right and starts the brawl.

 

In short:

 

1. Shelley Duncan is a dick.

2. THIS IS JOE GIRARDI'S TEAM AND THE YANKEES WON'T GET PUSHED AROUND

3. Shelley Duncan is a dick.

[schillingouttheks]

Yeah, he is.

[TheKilo]

Yeah' date=' he is.[/quote']

 

[26 Reasons to Hate Us]

No badmouthing of Duncan from the Yankee contingent? I'm shocked.

 

For years now the Yankees have been a team of 'professionals.' It's nice to finally have someone on the roster who will protect your guys again. No badmouthing from me.

[TheKilo]

For years now the Yankees have been a team of 'professionals.' It's nice to finally have someone on the roster who will protect your guys again. No badmouthing from me.

 

Let's follow the course of events.

 

1. Elliot Johnson, a career minor leaguer fighting for his life, makes a split second decision and knocks over a Yankee catching prospect and breaks his wrist.

2. Girardi get pissy about it, but many of the Yankee contingent felt it was a fluke event and nothing else would come of it.

3. The Yankee starter hits Longoria with a pitch and gets thrown out, which should have marked the end of the whole saga.

4. Shelly "I am a Dick" Duncan gets a base hit down the left field line and tries to stretch a single into a double. He is thorwn out by at least 5 feet and makes the conscious decision to go in spikes high against the Rays' starting third baseman.

 

We really think that what Shelly Duncan did was a good thing? Really?

[26 Reasons to Hate Us]

Let's follow the course of events.

 

1. Elliot Johnson, a career minor leaguer fighting for his life, makes a split second decision and knocks over a Yankee catching prospect and breaks his wrist.

2. Girardi get pissy about it, but many of the Yankee contingent felt it was a fluke event and nothing else would come of it.

3. The Yankee starter hits Longoria with a pitch and gets thrown out, which should have marked the end of the whole saga.

4. Shelly "I am a Dick" Duncan gets a base hit down the left field line and tries to stretch a single into a double. He is thorwn out by at least 5 feet and makes the conscious decision to go in spikes high against the Rays' starting third baseman.

 

We really think that what Shelly Duncan did was a good thing? Really?

 

Event #2: The team 'professionals' acted professional. They would say the same thing no matter what happened, so I don't think we can say they for sure that they were actually okay with it.

 

I think you misunderstand event #3. As someone mentioned earlier, Longoria wasn't even hit. His jersey was brushed. The ump overreacted and tossed Phillips, but it wasn't really retaliation. So the score wasn't really settled then. Whatever. I won't go as far as to say what Duncan did was a good thing since it was just a ST game, but I'm certainly not going to badmouth a guy who will actually stick up for his teammates, even if he did go a little too far.

 

Event #4: Iwamura being a starter and not another prospect is a non issue to me, since you only play 1-3 innings in ST and you don't get too many opportunities to retaliate.

[schillingouttheks]

Well, Shelley Duncan implied/said in one of his interviews that if he were to retaliate, he would do it between third base and home plate. Now, either Shelley Duncan was full of s*** and saw Iwamura and decided to intentionally take him out, or he's f***ing retarded since it was second base. Pick one.

 

There was nothing to stand up for. The difference between the two plays is that Duncan's was dirty, and Elliot Johnson's was clean.

[TheKilo]

Event #2: The team 'professionals' acted professional. They would say the same thing no matter what happened' date=' so I don't think we can say they for sure that they were actually okay with it.[/quote']

 

You can't say for sure that they were pissed about it. All we have to go off of is what they said.

 

I think you misunderstand event #3. As someone mentioned earlier, Longoria wasn't even hit. His jersey was brushed. The ump overreacted and tossed Phillips, but it wasn't really retaliation. So the score wasn't really settled then.

 

What "score" needed to be settled? Do you have issue with event #1?

 

Whatever. I won't go as far as to say what Duncan did was a good thing since it was just a ST game, but I'm certainly not going to badmouth a guy who will actually stick up for his teammates, even if he did go a little too far.

 

Not surprising.

 

Event #4: Iwamura being a starter and not another prospect is a non issue to me, since you only play 1-3 innings in ST and you don't get too many opportunities to retaliate.

 

Really. So potentially injuring someone who will be in the openng day lineup is the same thing as injuring a AA catcher? Do I need to explain how stupid this sounds?

[Optimist]

The difference between the two plays is that Duncan's was dirty' date=' and Elliot Johnson's was clean.[/quote']

 

The only difference, as most are concerned, is that Shelley Duncan is a Yankee, and Elliot Johnson is a Ray.

 

That goes for both sides, I'd say.

[26 Reasons to Hate Us]

You can't say for sure that they were pissed about it. All we have to go off of is what they said.

 

Well we do know for sure that the manager and at least a couple players were pissed for sure.

 

What "score" needed to be settled? Do you have issue with event #1?

 

Yeah, I do. I agree with Girardi on this one. Although it was a legal play, he could have just slid hard. No need to lower the shoulder in March.

 

 

Really. So potentially injuring someone who will be in the openng day lineup is the same thing as injuring a AA catcher? Do I need to explain how stupid this sounds?

 

 

Putting a AA catcher out for 8-10 weeks is the same as giving a major leaguer a sore groin for a few days. Sounds about even to me.

[schillingouttheks]

The only difference, as most are concerned, is that Shelley Duncan is a Yankee, and Elliot Johnson is a Ray.

 

That goes for both sides, I'd say.

 

I really don't agree. Elliot Johnson is fighting for a roster spot and is working hard to get onto the team. Shelley Duncan's just an idiot.

[schillingouttheks]

Yeah' date=' I do. I agree with Girardi on this one. Although it was a legal play, he could have just slid hard. No need to lower the shoulder in March.[/quote']

 

There's no need to "retaliate" in March either.

 

EDIT: Sorry about the double post.

[a700hitter]

Girardi is a douche bag who contradicts himself to suit his own whims. One minute he's screaming about Manny not running hard, and the next moment he's criticizing a kid for playing hard and trying to make a team. The next minute he is defending a clearly dirty spikes up play by that stupid ass Shelley Duncan. Girardi has no integrity or character. He'll never last in NY.

[HeadOfSoxNation]

What happened here is obvious...

 

...Shelly Duncan is pissed that he has a girl's name.

[26 to 6]

Some of you guys are just dumb..

 

Kilo, Iwamura is gonna be starting at secnd this year not third. That's gonna be Longoria.

 

Zach, Eliot Johnson has a snowballs chance in hell of making the team. He's not fighting for a roster spot, my boy Shawn Riggans pretty much has the backup catching job.

 

HoSN, Shelley isn't even his name. It's David.

 

Kilo, I think it's stupid to think that Cervelli breaking his wrist isn't a big deal compared to Iwamura potentially being hurt. They're both ballplayers with a season ahead of them. Just because it was a prospect who got hurt means that his injury is insignificant? You're an idiot bro.

 

What Girardi has said, and what the Yankees did today is nothing at all like what the Yankees of recent years would have done. Girardi wants to establish himself as the new manager and implement his approaches, and that means changing the ships course of direction. He said he was going to be him, and not Joe Torre. Setting the tone and pretty much saying that this new Yankee team is going to play hard, and not back down from anybody is a good thing. I like the aggressive attitude. Johnson went in hard on Cervelli, Girardi essentially said "you guys wanna play like that, we can play that game too." I like this. The youthful exuberance and aggressive attitude is something I embrace. This is going to be a fun team to watch in the coming years. It's a new chapter in the long tale of Yankee history.

[ORS]

Ok, I'll play.

 

Some of you guys are just dumb..

 

Kilo, Iwamura is gonna be starting at secnd this year not third. That's gonna be Longoria.

Numbnuts, the distinction was between starter on the big club vs. prospect in AA. What position the starter will play is irrelevant.

 

Kilo, I think it's stupid to think that Cervelli breaking his wrist isn't a big deal compared to Iwamura potentially being hurt. They're both ballplayers with a season ahead of them. Just because it was a prospect who got hurt means that his injury is insignificant? You're an idiot bro.

There is a massive difference. Cervelli was hurt when someone exerted a bit too much effort. No intent to harm, unlike what Duncan did.

 

And since most of what you posted is minor nit picking, let's see what's left.

 

What Girardi has said, and what the Yankees did today is nothing at all like what the Yankees of recent years would have done. Girardi wants to establish himself as the new manager and implement his approaches, and that means changing the ships course of direction.

Well shiver me timbers, laddy. I could have sworn that a ship's course was it's direction. Ships don't have a "course of direction".

[BudLight]

What Duncan did yesterday was dirty, no other explanation can change it! What Johnson did, while not a dirty play, was probably a bit to aggressive for a spring training game, especially between two minor league players. As for Girardi, I haven't seen a story yet today that mentions his approval or disapproval of what Duncan did yesterday.

 

What I do see here though is folks who would condone a pitcher throwing a 90 + MPH fastball at a batter in retaliation but who disapprove of a position player sliding cleat high. Personally, I don't see a difference. Both actions can result in serious injury and both are dirty. So, the next time people post here that they hope A-Rod or Jeter or anyone else gets drilled, remember how you weighed in on this issue with Duncan.

[Mr Crunchy]

if you had a name like shelley wouldnt you look for the smallest man on the field to attack?

good to see the yanks show courage against a 140lb 2bman