August 30th @ New York

[BudLight]

This from a Yankees fan:

 

 

Stupid move on the part of Joba, a 5 nothing game, the Red Sox bats are in storage somewhere and in the 9th inning of a shutout game you throw at somebody. Dumb, Dumb, Dumb!!! Why give the Sox any emotion at this point. Don't wake a sleeping giant and right now the Sox are doing their best Rip Van Winkle impression.

 

(d) Intentionally Pitch at the Batter.

If, in the umpire’s judgment, such a violation occurs, the umpire may elect either to:

1. Expel the pitcher, or the manager and the pitcher, from the game, or

2. may warn the pitcher and the manager of both teams that another such pitch will result in the immediate expulsion of that pitcher (or a replacement) and the manager.

If, in the umpire’s judgment, circumstances warrant, both teams may be officially “warned” prior to the game or at any time during the game.

(League Presidents may take additional action under authority provided in Rule 9.05.)

Rule 8.02(d) Comment: To pitch at a batter’s head is unsportsmanlike and highly dangerous. It should be—and is—condemned by everybody. Umpires should act without hesitation in enforcement of this rule

[TedWilliams101]

He claimed that he just lost control of his fastball, and thats what it looked like to me. He had no reason to throw at Youk. In my book, if there's no motive and the pitcher himself goes out of his way to say that it wasn't intentional, then its just a mistake.

[CrespoBlows]

Why is that?

 

Because, he's an idiot.

[Rdsxmbnt]

Whats he going to do, claim he meant to throw two straight fastballs at Youkilis' head?

[mtbykr]

Youkilis ran out of the baseline. I don't see any break.

 

The call was reversed, that was the break. If Youk ran out of the baseline to avoid the tag, then he's out.....that didn't happen. Watch the replay: when youk avoided the tag he was directly on the baseline between 2nd and 3rd (directly!) Arod then threw to first, after the ball was gone Youk's momentum carried him out of the line onto the lip of the grass. As I understand the rule to be, Youk should be safe. My assumption is that the umps were not in a good position to see what happened and one of them saw youk touch the grass so they called him out.

[mtbykr]

He claimed that he just lost control of his fastball' date=' and thats what it looked like to me. He had no reason to throw at Youk. In my book, if there's no motive and the pitcher himself goes out of his way to say that it wasn't intentional, then its just a mistake.[/quote']

 

 

I don't buy him losing control of 2 fastballs when he's had great control. If they were other pitches I may slightly buy it, but he's not losing 2 fastballs like that at someone's head back to back when both pitches were supposed to be low and away. He threw at his head for some apparent reason that no one else knows, and the sox will remember that come the next series. As much as I hate the yanks, I don't want anyone's head thrown at though.

[redsoxrules]

Truthfully' date=' the Mariners scare me more[/quote']

 

how?

[Soxfan1]

YO YO ITS MAH BOI RYAN GOMES. WIN THE NBA FIN@L$ OR DONT CUM BAK BOI

[yankees228]

The call was reversed' date=' that was the break. If Youk ran out of the baseline to avoid the tag, then he's out.....that didn't happen. Watch the replay: when youk avoided the tag he was directly on the baseline between 2nd and 3rd (directly!) Arod then threw to first, after the ball was gone Youk's momentum carried him out of the line onto the lip of the grass. As I understand the rule to be, Youk should be safe. My assumption is that the umps were not in a good position to see what happened and one of them saw youk touch the grass so they called him out.[/quote']

 

I think this is more of an opinion thing than anything else. It's possible that he should have been safe, hard to tell. Does anyone have the exact rule?

[mtbykr]

I think this is more of an opinion thing than anything else. It's possible that he should have been safe' date=' hard to tell. Does anyone have the exact rule?[/quote']

 

NESN read the rule on the air while showing the replay, that's how I came to that. The rule states that if go out of the baseline (in order to avoid a tag...otherwise it's fine) then you are out. Youk was in the baseline when he avoided the tag (right in the middle) and after arod thew the ball youk's momentum took him out. Like i said before, i think the umps didn't have a good position and because one of them saw youk on the lip of the grass they called him out. It was a key moment in the game, although the sox still lost 5-0.

[redsoxrules]

I tought it was a bad call myself but we would have still lost the game anyways

[yankees228]

NESN read the rule on the air while showing the replay' date=' that's how I came to that. The rule states that if go out of the baseline (in order to avoid a tag...otherwise it's fine) then you are out. Youk was in the baseline when he avoided the tag (right in the middle) and after arod thew the ball youk's momentum took him out. Like i said before, i think the umps didn't have a good position and because one of them saw youk on the lip of the grass they called him out. It was a key moment in the game, although the sox still lost 5-0.[/quote']

 

Ok, fair enough, but I think there's two way to look at it. His attempt to avoid the tag is what caused him to leave the base path. So it all comes down to interpretation.

[TedWilliams101]

I thought Youk was out before they even ruled him safe the first time around. Pretty much anytime a player avoid a tag and ends up on the grass they're out.

[TheKilo]

I call dibs on the next gamethread. I blame the sweep solely on the fact I couldn't log into the f***ing website since Sunday morning.

[Gom]

Waldman: "And that's why you do that, every time you run you increase the percentage of them making a mistake."

 

So, using this twit's logic every runner should always attempt to steal because the other team might screw up. Brilliant. Although, I must say, a vapid talking head like that suits a large portion of the fanbase.

 

I agree. She is a tool.

 

Some notes on the game [God, I love seeing every game of a Red Sox sweep]. It didn't look like Youk went out of the baseline. I think the Yanks caught a break there.

 

Jeter blew the nohitter. The next groundball that went through for a single would have been an easy out for Cano. They bunched up the infield for the double play. f*** Jeter, at least for that one play.

 

Schilling pitched well, except to Cano. This was a close game until we blew it open late.

 

You guys still win the division unless you melt down against the Orioles. The magic number, for lack of a term, is 2 games. If we can shave three games off of your lead, bring it to two games by the time we get to Boston, we have a chance. This Orioles series is key for you, since they play well against you and unfortunately against us as well.

[yankees228]

I call dibs on the next gamethread. I blame the sweep solely on the fact I couldn't log into the f***ing website since Sunday morning.

 

Jacko, Gom, and me broke into the admin control panel and temporarily banned you so you couldn't log in to start the game threads.

[ORS]

This Orioles series is key for you' date=' since they play well against you and unfortunately against us as well.[/quote']

Just like Tampa, right? And, for the record, they don't give 24 members of the squad a problem, just Gagne.

[yankees228]

Just like Tampa' date=' right? And, for the record, they don't give 24 members of the squad a problem, just Gagne.[/quote']

 

On top of that, you guys miss Bedard and Guthrie.

[Gom]

Just like Tampa' date=' right? And, for the record, they don't give 24 members of the squad a problem, just Gagne.[/quote']

 

True about Gagne. The thing is, the Yankees are home, playing good ball, and got momentum. To tell you the truth, every series is key at this point. For both of us. More for us than you. You didn't hear me say anything about the White Sox, because a split of some sort would have been ok.

[ORS]

On top of that' date=' you guys miss Bedard and Guthrie.[/quote']

True, but we face Liz, who is a pretty good prospect. He tossed a no-no this year in the minors, and he'll have the whole "never seen him before" thing working for him. Olson and Cabrera they've seen, and that matchup works well since they are both wild and the Sox walk the most. Just need a couple of timely hits in games 2 and 3.

[yankees228]

True' date=' but we face Liz, who is a pretty good prospect. He tossed a no-no this year in the minors, and he'll have the whole "never seen him before" thing working for him. Olson and Cabrera they've seen, and that matchup works well since they are both wild and the Sox walk the most. Just need a couple of timely hits in games 2 and 3.[/quote']

 

Hmm, thanks for the info, I wasn't too familiar with the guy who is starting the first game for the Orioles. Doesn't look like his first start was anything special, although according to the scouting reports for the pitching matchups on MLB.com, he pitched better than his line but it was spoiled by a three run homer.

[ORS]

True about Gagne. The thing is' date=' the Yankees are home, playing good ball, and got momentum. To tell you the truth, every series is key at this point. For both of us. More for us than you. You didn't hear me say anything about the White Sox, because a split of some sort would have been ok.[/quote']

Momentum is as good as tomorrow's starter. That's Hughes, who, while I don't share your pessimism about him long-term, can't miss over the plate against the Rays like he did against the Angels and Tigers.

[Gom]

Hughes sucks. f*** him.

 

Another thing about Pedroia I realized....man, does that guy have a glove. Best fielding secondbaseman you have had in a long, long time. What a glove on that guy. However, what the hell was he thinking with that bunt last night?

[yankees228]

Hughes sucks. f*** him.

 

Serious or sarcasm?

[schillingouttheks]

Right now, he's serious.

[yankees228]

Right now' date=' he's serious.[/quote']

 

Interesting. Well, Gom, Santana and Bedard were unavailable, so they had to improvise.

[Gom]

I am not sold on this guy at all. According to what I've heard, he's got a poor work ethic, like this game owes him something. I'm excited about Kennedy though from what I've heard.

 

It takes me a while to get on the bandwagon with young players. The Yankees, probably better than any team in baseball. overhype their prospects. If you can do it for two years, I'm sold. Until then, you're not much in my book.

[yankees228]

I am not sold on this guy at all. According to what I've heard, he's got a poor work ethic, like this game owes him something. I'm excited about Kennedy though from what I've heard.

 

It takes me a while to get on the bandwagon with young players. The Yankees, probably better than any team in baseball. overhype their prospects. If you can do it for two years, I'm sold. Until then, you're not much in my book.

 

That's fair, and I don't think anyone is sold on him, but I'd like to see where you heard about him having a poor work ethic. Everything I've heard has been 100% to the contrary.

[schillingouttheks]

Well, I do know that he posts on a message board every now and then. Someone on here posted the link once.

[yankees228]

Well' date=' I do know that he posts on a message board every now and then. Someone on here posted the link once.[/quote']

 

I'm confused. I don't think that just because he posts on a MB (which is his) that he has a poor work ethic. I also don't think that that is what you're trying to say, so I'm just wondering how that's involved.