Rangers intent on trading Teixeira

[hoke3182]

After reading that article' date=' it seems most teams have backed off. SF doesn't have the prospects. Both LA's do but won't pull the trigger. I offer Bowden, Gabbard and a Moss type. Thats more then they will get from anyone else. I mean I could be wrong, but it does seem no one else is gonna pony up at the moment.[/quote']

 

If we could pull it off with Gabbard, Moss and Bowden, I''d jump on that. But Lowell is still gonna have to go somewhere, or god forbid Youk. Where do they go, and where does Pena go?

[ksushi]

If we give up Lester AND Gabbard we would have no rotation. DiceK, Beckett, Wake, David Pauley and Kyle Syder?

 

*shudders*

[BSN07]

Lowell probably gets moved to a team needing a 3B. Minny,LAA,LA,SD all have been said to be wanting a bat. Get a BP arm back for him. WMP gets traded to someone for a BP arm. Or he maybe they try to pass him threw waivers. Kielty just got DFA and the Sox where said to be interested. Hes nothing spectacular but he can play all 3 OF positions and 1B if needed.

 

Gabberd,Bowden, Moss/WMP/ some mid level prospect isn't to bad, ya Bowden has potential and Gabbard has been throwing the ball well, but I think you have to sell hi on him. Tex adds power and getting a couple arms to throw in the pen would be nice for home stretch.

 

1.Beckett

2.Dice-K

3.Schilling

4.Lester

5.Wake

 

Papelbon

Okajihma

Delcarmen

Timlin

Tavarez

plus guys from trades from above.

 

 

Line up coul look like this,

 

1.Lugo/Coco

2.Pedroia

3.Papi

4.Manny

5.Tex

6.Youk

7.Drew/Tek

8.Tek/Drew

9.Coco/Lugo

 

Thats a sweet lineup...

[Gom]

Guys, Lowell has no real value for Texas, or any other team that is restocking. Although he is a good player, he is older. A team trying to rebuild is not going to be interested in Lowell, so forget about him in a deal.

 

Youkilis, citing his age, is a little more valuable. However, the rookies and prospects you have are much more valuable.

 

I doubt you guys would get him without Bucholz, and that we could without Chamberlain. Don't forget the Dodgers, who have more tradeable prosects than our two teams combined.

[Rdsxmbnt]

idk about that, Lowell = 2 1st round draft picks after this season which is the same compensation they would get when Tex leaves in two seasons.

[hoke3182]

idk about that' date=' Lowell = 2 1st round draft picks after this season which is the same compensation they would get when Tex leaves in two seasons.[/quote'] Agreed. Probablly more value than Youk

[redsoxrules]

apparently atlanta is the front runner for Tex

 

http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20070725&content_id=2108280&vkey=news_mlb&fext=.jsp&c_id=mlb

[Khan]

I sa that too. It looks like it would take the farm to get in front of Atlanta; I believe mlb.co said 3 top prospects including Salti. I would not send our farm for 1 year plus of Tex.

[HeadOfSoxNation]

I sa that too. It looks like it would take the farm to get in front of Atlanta; I believe mlb.co said 3 top prospects including Salti. I would not send our farm for 1 year plus of Tex.

 

I read something earlier that said the Braves wouldn't give up Salty or Yunel Escobar for Tex...and that's when Texas's asking price was higher than it is now. I doubt he goes to Atlanta.

[BSN07]

Gom, I never said move Lowell to a team that is rebuilding. In my post I name like 5 teams in contention in need of a 3B and or Bat.

[schillingouttheks]

I sa that too. It looks like it would take the farm to get in front of Atlanta; I believe mlb.co said 3 top prospects including Salti. I would not send our farm for 1 year plus of Tex.

 

You can pretty much guarantee that whatever team gets Teixeira will give him a nice extension. I doubt he even sniffs free agency, especially with how much teams will be giving up in prospects/talent to get him.

[Khan]

If the Red Sox were to land him, I would like to agree with you as far as an extension almost being a prerequisite. Although with Borass as the agent I think the Red Sox would need to grossly overpay to keep Tex out of FA. That is why I do not like this deal. I want him, but not at what the cost seems to be given Atlanta's new found interest (I'm seeing and hearing it again this AM) and that in all likelihood Tex is gone in 1+ year. If you can get a reasonable extension, then do it. I just do not think you can with Borass.

[pats55sox45]

I think the Sox should propose something that is either Youk or Lowell.

Youk is a valuable player. If we give him up then we should give up less in some other area.

 

Given Lester's clean health right now, his age, and his MLB readiness, I think he is pretty valuable. Youk is pretty valuable.

 

I would offer a sweeter package of youngsters to get the Rangers to take Lowell, but the more I think about it I see Youk as the logical piece. I have a weird feeling about karma and dealing Youk, but baseball-wise Teixeira is just too good to pass up.

 

He's not 'just a bit' better than youkilis. He switch hits and had 43 HR and 144 RBI two seasons ago. Youk is on pace for 15 HR and 81 RBI this season. Nearly half.

 

In any case, Teixeira puts up numbers that are closer to those of David Ortiz than Kevin Youkilis. In the Sox system I can only imagine that he would develop even more.

 

Youkilis should be considered as better than a top prospect like Ellsbury, given his experience and ability to produce on both sides of the ball immediately.

 

If there is ANY way to move Lowell instead I think they should do it. A deal involving Lowell, WMP, Lester, Bowden? That would be a high price, but I would consider it to keep Youkilis. His OBP skills, cheap price tag, positional versitility, and relationship with the fans make it hard to deal him.

 

 

what ive been saying for months, and came on here last week and saying (in a separate thread) that we should trade lowell to a third team, and get pieces from that third team (maybe the angels) to package with a couple prospects to send to texas

that would make the most sense for all parties involved

[Gom]

Gom' date=' I never said move Lowell to a team that is rebuilding. In my post I name like 5 teams in contention in need of a 3B and or Bat.[/quote']

 

Ok, but which teams that are in contention are going to give you what YOU need?

 

Doesn't make sense.

 

At this time of the year, you trade your prospects for help today. Why would any team that is rebuilding take Lowell? Why would any team trade away viable major league players to get one back?

 

As good as Lowell is, he has minimal trade value. His value to the Red Sox is astronomically higher than it would be to nearly every other team in baseball.

[ORS]

Ok, but which teams that are in contention are going to give you what YOU need?

 

Doesn't make sense.

 

At this time of the year, you trade your prospects for help today. Why would any team that is rebuilding take Lowell? Why would any team trade away viable major league players to get one back?

 

As good as Lowell is, he has minimal trade value. His value to the Red Sox is astronomically higher than it would be to nearly every other team in baseball.

Actually, Lowell does have value. Now, he won't get the job done by himself or as the centerpiece, but nobody has suggested that.

 

Texas is guaranteed one thing right now if they don't trade Tex. Two draft picks. If they trade him, the gain is the difference between what they get and the draft picks. With Lowell as a throw in (and competent player for the remainder of this year), the gain will be what they get and the draft picks. Scoff at the value of draft picks all you want, but the top prospects we keep talking about, Hughes, Buchholz, Bowden, Ellsbury, Chamberlain, Kennedy, etc were all 1/1s talent.

[Sox Fan on Cape]

You can pretty much guarantee that whatever team gets Teixeira will give him a nice extension. I doubt he even sniffs free agency' date=' especially with how much teams will be giving up in prospects/talent to get him.[/quote']

 

One word, Boris.

[Gom]

You know, I was reading Joel Sherman's article in the NY Post saying how the Yankees are not serious players for Teixeira. I don't understand, and this is why Cashman is an idiot.

 

I can understand not moving Hughes, he joins the rotation now. However, I would trade Chamberlain and/or Kennedy in a heartbeat.

 

Before this season started, Chamberlain was rated the 75th prospect by Baseball America.

 

SEVENTY FIFTH!

 

Are you telling me that Teixeira isn't one of the top 75 players in the game today? True, he has been injured, and not playing to his norm, but he is a young player who will rebound. He is also a Gold Glove firstbaseman who, with a pitching staff that doesn't strike out a lot of batters, and has less than a stellar defensive infield, will be a major addition.

 

Can you imagine this lineup?

 

Jeter

Abreu

Teixeira

Arod

Matsui

Posada

Abreu

Cano

Damon

 

How does that lineup not make the playoffs [i know Torre will insist on Damon leading off, even if he can't steal a base anymore, has a s***** average and OBP].

 

The Yankees have a chance at a bona fide All-Star switch hitting Gold Glove firstbaseman, one who hits for average, power, and has a good eye.

 

All for the 75th best prospect in baseball. Cashman should be assassinated.

[KeepTheFaith1229]

Chamberlain is like the 10th best prospect now. I'd hesitate on trading him for Tex. Kennedy in a heartbeat though.

[Cocos Disciples]

Yeah, Chamberlain's stock has risen tons.

[Gom]

Who cares if his stock has risen? If the Yankees can replace Andy Phillips with Teixeira, is there anyone out there at Talksox who thinks the Yankees won't make the playoffs? If the Yankees can get this guy without giving up Major League talent [this means Farnsworth can go in the deal] than this deal should have been done two weeks ago.

[Cocos Disciples]

I don't think Teixiera gets traded.

[Gom]

Unless he comes to the Yankees, or goes to the NL, I HOPE he doesn't get traded.

[hoke3182]

I don't think Teixiera gets traded.

 

Maybe not at the deadline, but I doubt it, he won't be a Ranger next year.

[redsoxrules]

the braves are offering Jarrod Saltalamacchia, Class AA left-hander Matt Harrison and Class A shortstop Elvis Andrus for Tex

 

http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/7065740

[ORS]

If I'm Texas, I take that and run to the bank. Saltalamacchia's bat will be almost as good as Teixeira's over the next 6 season's, IMO, and he'll be doing it as a catcher. Andrus is another good prospect. He was Tabata's hype-twin in the GCL a couple of years ago.

[MANNYHOF24]

It seems very unlikely that the Sox will have any chance for Teixeria now, to beat the braves package they would probably have to give up Ellsbury and Buchholz which is really stupid IMO.

[pats55sox45]

It seems very unlikely that the Sox will have any chance for Teixeria now' date=' to beat the braves package they would probably have to give up Ellsbury and Buchholz which is really stupid IMO.[/quote']

 

are those other two prospects (harrison and andrus) any good?

[KeepTheFaith1229]

Andrus is a very good prospect, he played in the Futures game. Harrison is a solid pitching prospect who could help probably next year.